Nice touch, how this aggregator of aggregators includes itself.
And a link to download the data in JSON format! Oh I wish every site had one of those. Thanks for putting that together, I'll enjoy browsing through the curated links.
yeah but to be fair, those all just show posts with the same title. This one actually come up with pretty good headlines and summaries based on the articles themselves and I think actually are quite good for LLM-written content. It probably took some effort to get it to match NYT tone/style in writing and I found some of the headlines much better than the original ones though some of the charm of HN is titles that are unclear enough to make you go to the article only to find it's not about what you thought.
Might appreciate a print version of this mailed to my house :)
No shame in doing something that already exists for yourself. But at this point I think it wouldn't be asked too much to just ask your favorite agent to check first if someone already implemented your idea in the past and then consider if your vision is really distinct enough to warrant anther instance of whatever you want to build.
True, but imo there's also nothing particulrarly special about telling your agent to (re)build something that already existed (in various flavours) before.
I packed the thought into "consider if your vision is really distinct enough": make it better, make it weird, or make it recreationally (i.e. by hand). Make it opinionated, in Minecraft, whatever, but give it at least some new substance.
It's also fine to do Hacker Tube or Hacker Times (it's really not about this specific instance) for the 100th time, but if nothing else distinguishes it from the others than "I wanted to have one too", maybe it's not the curiosity-inspiring thing to share on HN we should strive for.
Nor was it implied. I agree with the poster, especially in the case of point-and-release agentic coding. Not saying it's to be banned if there's no additional substance, but worth asking yourself what you've contributed apart from token spend.
I was merely pointing at how some people seems to have some impression that the idea should be original and not a duplicate as if it's some sort of objective truth that they have found out.
In reality it's just some false belief they have.
There is no guarantee that the first implementation of the idea will be the first to capture the attention of the public.
Also it's perfectly fine to have someone post a duplicate implementation of an idea and get no reception as well.
Maybe that can happen through custom instructions. But I guess, by default the agent will happily do extra work and spend lots of tokens on “redundant” projects.
We're going to enter an era of fragmentation and silos like never imagined before. It'll be terribly wonderful, with everyone getting exactly what they want.
You're probably right, but i think this is a human-led issue, not one brought on by tech, though it does exacerbate it.
As someone committed to transdisciplinary work, I think the tech also really supports this - i can do lit reviews on topics and cross-reference much more easily, which gives me more time for reading and thinking (both of which are also falling out of fashion, but that's another story)
wow quite a list - my version of it is https://thedailyfront.johnnys.page which I built for myself, to read it on my tablet on my way to the office. A new issue is generated automatically every morning.
My goal was to have something that is self-contained with every article directly readable on the site and to have the discussion there as well
Is that all that surprising? We're comparing hobby projects created by a single developer, in a medium that requires multiple skills to master, to a machine generated site that can draw upon the collective knowledge of humanity. (I think that is a fair comparison here, since pretty much everything known about web development would be documented online.) Comparing it to a team of developers doing it professionally would likely lead to a different outcome.
> Ah, Manufacturing Consent—the font that doesn’t just scream “serious journalism,” it calmly editorializes it in 144-point Fraktur while subtly nudging your worldview.
Unfortunately feels too much like an LLM output for me.
Isn't what people pay for with the NYT or other publications, the journalism and editing? Like, the UI isn't why people pay for it.
Given that this seems to just be a re-skin, why a full site that updates hourly, instead of just a browser extension that rewrites the content in-place live?
The instant value I got from this is actually something that resembles journalism and editing, even if it’s just an LLM doing the job: the rewriting of headlines along with a half-decent editorial summary paragraph gives me a clear overview of what each link is actually about without the usual puzzling over what the cryptic HN headline is trying to say.
Yeah. Look at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50321605 — what the hell is this? Why do people click on random links allegedly belonging to no name projects? What are these projects about? Fascinating.
Thanks, that is something at least. For me hckrnews.com is by far the best, one line per story, no images, and an easy way to filter the number of headlines you see. I've suggested to several news sites that I'd love to have something like hckrnews.com on their site. Some have responded pointing to something more like your link, although often they don't work or have a too limited selection of articles.
I personally don't like the AI-rephrased titles, they feel too editorialized and similar to each other. I realise AI-rephrasing is necessary for the description, but I think the title should (optionally?) be left alone. Could be a toggle.
This is great! Very readable and feels like a nice way to browse articles. I tend to gloss over stuff in the HN wall of text sometimes so this breaks the links up in a useful way. Nice job.
Yeah, it does make the stories a lot more readable, HN just has bullet points of links making it slightly hard to follow everything the only thing the site is missing is a games tab like the NY Times.
Fun. I have a visceral dislike for the NYT, so the association is actually a negative, haha — but I could get over it.
The tradeoff of the Hacker Times design is increased information for each story but lower density of stories compared to the HN homepage. The high-density design of the HN page is probably optimal for my habits, even though some of the user-submitted headlines are opaque enough that I miss some things I would otherwise click on.
This reminds me of an idea I had a while ago; it would be nice if I could receive a paper daily/weekly of interesting articles, updates in the world, think pieces, etc. that weren't as broad as daily news or as opinionated. Just things that people found interesting or things happening around us without the political bias (on either side).
The paper side would just be to anti-digitize my life more, feels like it would be almost like a paper RSS feed.
It wasn't physical, but there was a slick app for the 1st gen of iPad called Early Edition which was basically just curated RSS feeds presented in the style of a newspaper. I was only able to find one image of it. I don't think the app exists anymore, unfortunately.
Early versions of Instapaper had a nice way to push out a Kindle "magazine" with recently-captured articles that I loved. This was circa...2010, 2011? An age long past.
If you can track down some decent sources that you like (maybe something like Kagi News, https://www.positive.news/, a good local paper if you have one), you could with little effort vibe up a daily printout and have it waiting for you when you get up each day. For a fun version, there's plenty of cheap thermal printers on aliexpress and similar that'd give you a non-US Letter/A4 version so it doesn't feel like Yet Another Document.
I wanted exactly the same thing, so I built https://morningsift.com.
You can use it to create your own daily newsletters from topics, specific websites, youtube channels, X accounts, etc. This is totally free.
You can even create it as a daily podcast, but I had to charge for this option, as it can get expensive to run every day.
If you give it a shot, I would love to get any feedback!
Kagi has a news site/app that updates once per day with the highlights from various categories of news.
I would imagine one could take something like that, and have program fetch it each morning, format it nicely, and print out a front page overview of what's going on. Just pick up the paper from the printer each morning.
This idea might be fine for a front page, but would fall apart when you start getting into long articles and think pieces. You'd be burning through a lot of paper.
Not exactly what you’re asking for, but a big fan of Hacker Newsletter, which emails you top HN articles. What you’re asking for is a little utopian, HN is the closest thing I’ve found
Back when people still understood that they don't need to know about every single "breaking" news story on the planet the instant it happens.
For a couple of months, I took a digital news break. I only read one national paper on Sundays, and the local paper twice a week. Amazingly, I didn't burst into flames or get stranger dangered. I felt both calm and informed. I plan to resume that pattern after the election.
FOMO is the drug. The tech industry is the dealer.
Wow oh wow. There's a lot of wisdom in this post. Maybe not earthshattering, but a good perspective for me to chew on.
By analogy, my best market moves were when I checked market activity about once a week, irregularly. Once I made a big decision, I stuck with it by not checking the market for a while. Not saying that is right for everyone, or even for me all the time, but I did very well in the 2008 crash.
At least on mobile, the format is much more reminiscent of slashdot.
Man, what a tragic waste of a great .com era community. The whole community self-moderation thing worked ok before the more worthwhile people left. Now they can’t even be arsed to pop by once an hour to remove the multi-page swastika ascii art comments.
It had too high of an influence to integrity ratio, and got infiltrated by motivated actors. That is not an uncommon dynamic. Every democratic forum kind of medium with significance becomes a target for career propagandists and con artists and so on.
Well, I’d say they blatantly sold out all by themselves long before it was infiltrated by anybody, but communities can weather that. The proto incels turning it into a wannabe 4 Chan troll tank with zero intervention alienated everyone that considered a high concentration of Neo nazis a dealbreaker… so pretty much anybody that actually worked in tech rather than basement dwellers whose computer was the only animated object that still communicated with them.
Here's a JS bookmarklet I use to apply dark mode to any website. It tries to preserve colors and avoids inverting graphics. Add a new bookmark to your toolbar and paste in that JS in place of the link. I hope you find it useful!
You can adjust the theme to your liking and I find it actually quite pleasant.
No subscription, no login, mobile friendly and it has been stable and online for several years.
This is so cool! Definitely liked the title font :)
I do wonder if this kind of republishing is compliant with the original site? As in, if one can store the content vs. not and just lazily convert live - have been curious about the copyright rules & practices in this area.
Since we're sharing vibe coded news sites, here's another: https://headlinegator.com aggregates push notifications from various news apps to one single page.
I did it for myself and not getting into the rabbit hole of HN, I called digestivo https://digest.ezcurdia.dev its the same concept but its fewer notes summarized
Just for your information, if you care about the reachability of your project: this site, like all ChatGPT sites, is blocked in countries that are banned by ChatGPT (e.g., Hong Kong). And because it uses a custom domain, it cannot be automatically proxied as I have set up for ChatGPT domains, which is slightly annoying.
Guess I missed ChatGPT sites, I presume it's exactly what I envision, you can make an accessible website with ChatGPT? If so, how do you know this is one?
Somehow this particular formulation makes me scream internally. It's not the classic print edition of the NYT that everybody grew up with, it's the click-maxing online version...
For me I’m thinking about the postmodern pastiche of it, as in Jameson’s Late Capitalism, wherein the NYT (while in many ways not a fair and trustworthy entity) earns its credibility through the measure it takes of risk before publication— this project would reproduce the aesthetic identity of such carefulness without actually containing it.
wow this is revolutionary. it could change hn forever if folks would start reading at least one paragraph past the submission title before jumping into discussion.
HN being ugly is intentional. It actually does not need these facelifts, because its plain appearance serves as an important filtering function for who participates.
washedup is right, of course, that the community is many people with many views (though the point should be made less snarkily). Of course HN disagrees with itself; it's not a self to begin with.
I think there's another factor: it takes time to find the best ways of using such new tools. The community is working this out slowly (as is society generally) and it is naturally a lagging phenomenon.
Seeing generated sites like OP and karpathy's HackerTube (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50319510) which look good and don't have the obvious-LLM sameiness that so many others do, is an interesting step along this way. It's also refreshing. There's no intrinsic reason why generated software should look bad or work poorly.
My point is that people will complain about GenAI but they actually love/enjoy AI generated content or projects as long as they fit what they're looking for.
I also regularly complain about AI generated content. I do that mostly, because it's often either
- extremely uninspired design and UX wise (e.g. the classical beige/serif AI slop website),
- full of obvious and stupid mistakes (e.g. those shitty infographics on social media),
- just mimics the real thing, but misses the actual purpose (e.g. again those shitty infographics on social media)
- or is ridiculously overloaded with features and documentation (e.g. many AI generated software tools on GitHub)
That's repelling to me, because it screams that the human behind it is himself lazy and uninspired. It's bland, overloaded or full of mistakes, because raw output is a commodity.
It feels like a waste of time to even consume something, that the author or developer wasn't willing to put actual effort and thought into.
But that's an artefact of how the author is using the tool and presenting the results.
It's not an inherent property of AI use itself. HackerTimes for example doesn't feel uninspired or bland. And i like it.
A couple of months ago (so probably vibe-coded too):
https://thefrontpage.dev/
https://times.hntrends.net/
https://hackernewstimes.com/
This one even from 6 years ago:
https://www.wolfgangfaust.com/project/paper-hn/ (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23669650, 627 points, 133 comments)
https://hn.algolia.com/?q=hackernews+newspaper
I built this to aggregate all the aggregators (like HackerTube, Hackerbooks etc.) that were popular a few days ago (they go back to 2011, at least).
https://hackeragain.com
And a link to download the data in JSON format! Oh I wish every site had one of those. Thanks for putting that together, I'll enjoy browsing through the curated links.
Might appreciate a print version of this mailed to my house :)
I packed the thought into "consider if your vision is really distinct enough": make it better, make it weird, or make it recreationally (i.e. by hand). Make it opinionated, in Minecraft, whatever, but give it at least some new substance.
It's also fine to do Hacker Tube or Hacker Times (it's really not about this specific instance) for the 100th time, but if nothing else distinguishes it from the others than "I wanted to have one too", maybe it's not the curiosity-inspiring thing to share on HN we should strive for.
My specific examples aren't listed, but the guidelines on what to submit support my point I think:
> If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.
In reality it's just some false belief they have.
There is no guarantee that the first implementation of the idea will be the first to capture the attention of the public.
Also it's perfectly fine to have someone post a duplicate implementation of an idea and get no reception as well.
As someone committed to transdisciplinary work, I think the tech also really supports this - i can do lit reviews on topics and cross-reference much more easily, which gives me more time for reading and thinking (both of which are also falling out of fashion, but that's another story)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50361909
A shame that it broke a few weeks ago. These projects tends to get abandoned after a while.
I like the description for Manufacturing Consent font:
https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Manufacturing+Consent/abou...
https://github.com/google/fonts/blob/main/ofl/manufacturingc...
> Ah, Manufacturing Consent—the font that doesn’t just scream “serious journalism,” it calmly editorializes it in 144-point Fraktur while subtly nudging your worldview.
Unfortunately feels too much like an LLM output for me.
(Which is probably post-ironic in this context?)
Given that this seems to just be a re-skin, why a full site that updates hourly, instead of just a browser extension that rewrites the content in-place live?
I think we can leave it at that no?
https://donohoe.dev/timeswire/
Lot of people come just for comments
http://n-gate.com/
Then I can show it on my eink art board
The tradeoff of the Hacker Times design is increased information for each story but lower density of stories compared to the HN homepage. The high-density design of the HN page is probably optimal for my habits, even though some of the user-submitted headlines are opaque enough that I miss some things I would otherwise click on.
The paper side would just be to anti-digitize my life more, feels like it would be almost like a paper RSS feed.
https://imgur.com/a/5sw6zOP
https://web.archive.org/web/20131020160134/https://itunes.ap...
If you can track down some decent sources that you like (maybe something like Kagi News, https://www.positive.news/, a good local paper if you have one), you could with little effort vibe up a daily printout and have it waiting for you when you get up each day. For a fun version, there's plenty of cheap thermal printers on aliexpress and similar that'd give you a non-US Letter/A4 version so it doesn't feel like Yet Another Document.
I would imagine one could take something like that, and have program fetch it each morning, format it nicely, and print out a front page overview of what's going on. Just pick up the paper from the printer each morning.
This idea might be fine for a front page, but would fall apart when you start getting into long articles and think pieces. You'd be burning through a lot of paper.
have you read it recently? Is it still the authentic articles? (as opposed to ads for whatever you were browsing a few minutes earlier.)
Back when people still understood that they don't need to know about every single "breaking" news story on the planet the instant it happens.
For a couple of months, I took a digital news break. I only read one national paper on Sundays, and the local paper twice a week. Amazingly, I didn't burst into flames or get stranger dangered. I felt both calm and informed. I plan to resume that pattern after the election.
FOMO is the drug. The tech industry is the dealer.
By analogy, my best market moves were when I checked market activity about once a week, irregularly. Once I made a big decision, I stuck with it by not checking the market for a while. Not saying that is right for everyone, or even for me all the time, but I did very well in the 2008 crash.
We built a combined books/video version as well in our app library.
https://medium.com/@vektormemory/vektor-2-0-4-hacker-news-bo...
Man, what a tragic waste of a great .com era community. The whole community self-moderation thing worked ok before the more worthwhile people left. Now they can’t even be arsed to pop by once an hour to remove the multi-page swastika ascii art comments.
Shameless plug: https://rnn.news/
Dark Reader extension for Firefox, works on mobile and desktop. I constantly forget this setup and blinds myself when I access HN from elsewhere.
https://gist.github.com/mpetrovich/b3e4ec291d21bbdbe17b1adf4...
You can adjust the theme to your liking and I find it actually quite pleasant. No subscription, no login, mobile friendly and it has been stable and online for several years.
I do wonder if this kind of republishing is compliant with the original site? As in, if one can store the content vs. not and just lazily convert live - have been curious about the copyright rules & practices in this area.
Georgia Bold is not fit for the purpose, and there's no earthly reason to use it at 55px.
There are so many good serif fonts to choose from on Google Fonts. An embarrassment of riches.
Fonts that don't distinguish between 0 and O/o are abominations before God and all that is good in life.
PS. Hello from the former typophile.com ranks :)
If I cancel can I get the service for $1/week? That's my favorite NYT feature.
"Sorry, you have been blocked
You are unable to access chatgpt.site"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello,_world
https://hnollo.com/
Source: https://youtu.be/O7AKquUtTvs?is=MJjR5eF9UY_JAo12
https://www.nytimes.com/rss
But honestly, the headlines there are refreshing
I added a few of them to the site:
- Games and AI section - NYTimes style comment section
Please don't :(
/s Please do! Who knows what will stick when you throw it at the wall?
What a time to be alive ...
Still waiting for Doom running on HackerNews or Doom-inspired HN ...
People complain about AI generated content, then proceeds to give a dancing cat AI reel 1 million likes.
People here complain about vibe coded apps, then proceed to upvote this to the front page.
I think there's another factor: it takes time to find the best ways of using such new tools. The community is working this out slowly (as is society generally) and it is naturally a lagging phenomenon.
Seeing generated sites like OP and karpathy's HackerTube (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50319510) which look good and don't have the obvious-LLM sameiness that so many others do, is an interesting step along this way. It's also refreshing. There's no intrinsic reason why generated software should look bad or work poorly.
I also regularly complain about AI generated content. I do that mostly, because it's often either
- extremely uninspired design and UX wise (e.g. the classical beige/serif AI slop website),
- full of obvious and stupid mistakes (e.g. those shitty infographics on social media),
- just mimics the real thing, but misses the actual purpose (e.g. again those shitty infographics on social media)
- or is ridiculously overloaded with features and documentation (e.g. many AI generated software tools on GitHub)
That's repelling to me, because it screams that the human behind it is himself lazy and uninspired. It's bland, overloaded or full of mistakes, because raw output is a commodity.
It feels like a waste of time to even consume something, that the author or developer wasn't willing to put actual effort and thought into.
But that's an artefact of how the author is using the tool and presenting the results.
It's not an inherent property of AI use itself. HackerTimes for example doesn't feel uninspired or bland. And i like it.