CursorBench 3.1

(cursor.com)

56 points | by handfuloflight 3 hours ago

15 comments

  • tekacs 2 hours ago
    I'm pretty baffled by their choice of axes. I would have thought that the left was the cheapest, not the most expensive. I appreciate that this layout means that top right can be best, but it's still unintuitive to have this backwards cost axis IMO.

    Putting that aside, I spend all day every day implementing very, very hard things right on the edge of what agents are (barely, sometimes) capable of, and I have had to keep Opus on max for things that need 'real validation' for a while now. And that has felt like 'the only way' to get Opus to perform even close to 5.5 xhigh. I'm only using Opus at all because GPT-5.5 in the subscriptions only has a small (400k, but 258k effective) context window.

    The difference is that 5.5 xhigh is extremely fast in most practical cases, both efficiently implementing _overall_, and responding very quickly with great adaptive thinking if you ask it something that it doesn't have to think about. Opus 4.8 Max will needlessly chew on everything and can take hours to implement even simple things, so I can mostly only use it for planning/review.

    Fable is much much better at adaptive thinking / responding quickly (although probably still worse than 5.5 xhigh), and... I think folks have said enough elsewhere about its strengths and weaknesses. Sadly still not a reliable implementor for my hard tasks though (that's still GPT's domain) – it tends to leave big, dangerous holes hiding inside implementations unless babied.

    • mklarmann 50 minutes ago
      It’s Gartner. Top-right is where you want to be.
      • 0123456789ABCDE 34 minutes ago
        gartner magic quadrant charts don't break the natural expectation of left-to-right, and bottom-to-top, increasing values, this charts from cursor post do.
        • arcanemachiner 19 minutes ago
          Sounds like you're in the Trough of Disillusionment.
    • pbowyer 2 hours ago
      > I'm only using Opus at all because GPT-5.5 in the subscriptions only has a small (400k, but 258k effective) context window.

      Do you find that makes a difference in your work? I've been using 5.5 high/xhigh to optimize and benchmark a C codebase, and just reading the initial code virtually fills the first context window. A session will auto-compact 5-15 times, but it seems to do okay in spite of that because the task is mainly focused on the latest window each time.

      I think for programming the strength of GPT over Opus is winning here over the context window.

    • cherryteastain 1 hour ago
      You can set GPT 5.5 to 1M context mode in Cursor but it costs more after the default 272k.
      • tekacs 29 minutes ago
        Yeah I've done this, it's just unaffordably/impractically expensive compared to the official subscriptions :/
    • 0123456789ABCDE 1 hour ago
      opus@max is on average worst than opux@xhigh

      for supporting evidence, see first chart here: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-mythos-5

  • mdasen 2 hours ago
    I'm a bit skeptical.

    Cursor's benchmark finds that Cursor's model (Composer 2.5) is basically as good as Opus 4.8 max and GPT-5.5 xhigh, but at a fraction of the price.

    Artificial Analysis' testing shows Composer 2.5 to be pretty far behind: https://artificialanalysis.ai/agents/coding-agents. You look at the DeepSWE benchmark (which is probably the hardest to game at this point) and GPT-5.5 xhigh gets a 64, Opus 4.8 max gets 56, and Cursor 2.5 gets 16.

    I don't doubt that Cursor works well for some people. It's beating DeepSeek v4 Pro in the DeepSWE benchmark and that's a very capable model. But I'm skeptical of the claims that it's a competitor for Opus 4.8 and GPT-5.5. It just seems convenient that their model does so well on their own benchmark while third party benchmarks have it far behind. Maybe it's a really great benchmark and a better measure than third party ones - I'd love for a cheap model to do as well as the expensive ones.

    • burmanm 3 minutes ago
      DeepSWE is slightly flawed in the sense that is uses only its own harness and that causes issues on models that are not correctly supported by it. There's huge amount of evidence that the harness plays a big role in how these models work and yet DeepSWE entirely removes that (and has probably only tested that it works fine with some favourite model of them).

      There's also issues with cost calculation (as that harness doesn't use caches) and so on as reported on their github issues.

      None of the benchmarks are perfect, but that does explain a lot of the variations between benchmarks.

    • famouswaffles 2 hours ago
      Cursor sessions are pretty much what composer models are RL'd on. This bench and the training data are/should be basically the same distribution.
    • datadrivenangel 1 hour ago
      For lighter interactive agentic coding, where you type stuff into an IDE and a minute or three later get results back for review, composer 2.5 is honestly pretty great. The results get notably worse for larger tasks though.
    • ciaf 1 hour ago
      By the same token, Fable 5 is given a score of 77 vs 76 for GPT 5.5
    • whazor 38 minutes ago
      I mean, they train their model on their training data. So by it should score well on their own benchmark.
  • xyzsparetimexyz 19 minutes ago
    I wish all these sites would show pareto frontier graphs of cost/performance. That's the main 2 things that matter (I guess you could make it 3D with a speed param as well). https://paraplouis.github.io/llm-pareto-frontier/ is the best of these graphs I've seen but it doesn't update as frequently as I'd like.
  • __natty__ 1 hour ago
    It's hard to believe Composer 2.5 is that good. I tried to compare it with GLM 5.2 or Opus 4.6 and it lacked thinking about the problem and critical reasoning. It's great for executing plans made by other models, but even then it does some weird code manipulation that is far from how other files around actually work.
  • nok22kon 54 minutes ago
    everytime a new benchmark appears, Chinese models are far lower than the level where they are supposed to be according to existing benchmarks. then after a while they recover :)
  • baq 32 minutes ago
    Cursor’s model excels at Cursor’s benchmark; news at 11.

    The other models however are reasonably where I’d expect them to be from experience piloting all of them. Fable is outclassing everything at most things at 10x the cost, but sometimes it isn’t a choice between cheap and expensive, but expensive and possible; I’ll need to learn where that boundary is just as it was the case with other models.

  • bfjvibybd6cuvu6 42 minutes ago
    No shot 2.5 is beating out 4.8
  • BugsJustFindMe 1 hour ago
    I've used both Composer 2.5 and GPT 5.5 (both in Cursor and in Codex) extensively, and their claim that Composer 2.5 is anywhere close in performance to GPT 5.5 is absolutely farcical. It's faster, but it's nowhere near as good.

    And given that you can only use Composer with a Cursor monthly subscription, cost comparisons are pointless since an equivalently priced OpenAI subscription gets you just as much usage of the better model.

  • shadeslayer_ 51 minutes ago
    Do these benchmarks even add any value at this point? This one is basically Cursor saying that their model is as good as the frontier ones at a fraction of the price. The independent benchmarks are probably part of training data now and the models are pattern-matching against them all the time. The final test of a model (and the harness, probably) is how good it works FOR YOU - since most of the models can pretty much do most of our tasks on a daily basis - it boils down to which one has the least friction to its usage.
  • luckilydiscrete 1 hour ago
    insert obama medal meme
  • verse 1 hour ago
    backwards X axis? is there a reason for that? it looks ridiculous
    • gkbrk 1 hour ago
      It looks very natural, cheaper is better after all. Performance axis going up, and cheapness axis going up match each other.
      • 0123456789ABCDE 48 minutes ago
        gp's argument is that cheapness is a construct, derived from the real, and natural, cost parameter which most people are naturally accustomed to interpreting as increasing from left to right. cheapness would then replace the cost label, and feel natural. alas, this is not what we have here.
    • anon373839 1 hour ago
      This seems to be a common choice with AI industry graphs, to give you that “upward and outward” frontier shape.
  • xrisk 53 minutes ago
    Would like to see wall times. I feel that’s the part that annoys me most, my tasks aren’t particularly challenging I want them done fast
  • o10449366 2 hours ago
    I feel like this benchmark reiterates my disbelief that anyone uses the latest Anthropic models for any productive work. They seem to be the best at burning tokens and spawning unnecessary subagents even for well-defined and tightly scoped tasks.

    Can we get a count of people that have had Claude read irrelevant documents or perform unnecessary web searches even when told not to from the beginning?

    I'm starting to wonder if this increased token usage is inadvertently bleeding into how Anthropic actually trains their model, especially leading up to IPO. As older models are deprecated and users are forced onto newer models, if the default is less efficient and more token expensive that directly results in higher "profit" for Anthropic in terms of the consumption their users have to tolerate - lest they jump to a competitor.

    • anon373839 1 hour ago
      > I'm starting to wonder if this increased token usage is inadvertently bleeding into how Anthropic actually trains their model

      Related: Sonnet 5’s new tokenizer increases token usage by 30%. (https://simonwillison.net/2026/Jun/30/claude-sonnet-5/)

    • pbowyer 2 hours ago
      > I feel like this benchmark reiterates my disbelief that anyone uses the latest Anthropic models for any productive work. They seem to be the best at burning tokens and spawning unnecessary subagents even for well-defined and tightly scoped tasks.

      I keep Claude around for some specific tasks:

      - Linked up to Figma MCP to implement front-end stuff

      - Data analysis, in the "Connect AI to a data source and ask questions" way. I've tried both Opus 4.8 high and GPT 5.5 high for this and Opus is stronger because it gets the intent in the question better

      I used to keep it around for planning too, but the 4.8 plans have had more holes than swiss cheese.

  • anilgulecha 2 hours ago
    is composer 2.5 that good at that pricepoint? Seems like the gemini flash playbook of trying to get most bang for the buck.
    • danfritz 2 hours ago
      It's my daily driver, it's fast affordable and with a bit of guidance gets the job done.

      I only reach for Claud when i need to plan something big or want to have a sparring partner to fire of some ideas.

      I think what a lot of people don't realize is that you don't need a fronteer model for 80% of coding tasks. Composer 2.5 is often more than good enough, less token hungry and way faster

      • shockembopper 2 hours ago
        I have been doing the same for quite a while now. Composer 2.5 is incredible when you’re working in the loop.
    • uf00lme 2 hours ago
      It's surprising usable and cheap enough to run in 'fast' mode when vibing something quick. For simple code I find I prefer the code it writes over GLM or Gemini family.
    • fumar 2 hours ago
      It’s fast and affordable.
    • aabdi 2 hours ago
      yes, its very good.
  • avikaa_ 1 hour ago
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