Meetings are forcing functions

(mooreds.com)

34 points | by zdw 1 day ago

9 comments

  • katzgrau 4 minutes ago
    There’s a lot of meeting hate here and as a developer, I used to feel the same.

    But after bootstrapping a SaaS company and at times struggling through cross-team execution, I’ve come around. A short weekly standing meeting, like the one described in the book The 4 Disciplines of Execution, is actually a powerful tool.

    Without it, maintenance, admin, and firefighting will expand to fill the entire week. The meeting forces space for focus, clear commitments, and basic accountability.

    It’s not obvious early in your career, but once you’ve got some scars, it starts to make a lot more sense.

  • atomicnumber3 1 hour ago
    "It’s easy for long-term strategic, high-impact work to sink to the bottom of everyone’s todo list."

    "[...] But one where the tasks to accomplish the project are not anyone’s full-time job."

    Sounds like the organization's leadership are incapable of balancing short term and long term goals, and it's falling to people who are paid less to "step up" and try to swim against the current for the good of the company.

    or

    Whatever the author is talking about is some engineering pipe dream disconnected from actual business value, and someone is dragging a bunch of other people semi-willingly along trying to execute on it without a mandate/funding from leadership.

    Impossible to say which from the outside. But I've known several instances of both cases.

    • 0x696C6961 27 minutes ago
      From my experience the first scenario is the norm
  • eitally 1 hour ago
    Meetings are one type of forcing function. Anything with concrete, time-bound deliverables is a forcing function, too. In a well-managed organization with trained & competent staff, it should not require meetings to ensure progress.
    • SanjayMehta 1 hour ago
      Some meetings, especially one on one, can be useful. It's very hard to say no to someone you've met, especially when your only other interaction is over the phone, email or chat.

      Recurring meetings, especially at the developer level, are a waste of developer time.

      I always found it easier to walk around, get personal updates one on one and integrate the information.

      That way I wasted only a few minutes of each developer's time, instead of boring them all for an hour per week.

  • hank2000 43 minutes ago
    Engineers: All a meeting does is distract from work.

    Every leader ever: if we could do the right work, we could have less meetings.

    I agree with the sentiment. And also understand the rage you’ll get.

  • axus 31 minutes ago
    To get the mathematical analogy back off track, some meeting series are "off-resonance" and result in lower amplitude. I'd have titled this "Weekly Meetings are Motivational".
  • greenhat76 13 minutes ago
    Meetings can be highly effective in getting things done if a clear and reasonable objective is set.
  • ukuina 36 minutes ago
    "I didn't work on this because I was taking care of {something else}" kinda nullifies your forcing function, no?
  • cattown 1 hour ago
    No way, this is terrible! There are so many great work tracking tools to use or more efficient ways to communicate that accomplish the same thing. Without making a bunch of people take time out of their day so you can ask them if they remembered to do part of their job. Good management creates systems so this kind of thing isn’t needed.
  • homeonthemtn 1 hour ago
    Lost me at the start:

    "A recurring meeting serves as a powerful forcing function for long-running projects."

    No it doesn't. It serves as a burden ball that gets kicked around on the calendar field once the value of the series has been tapped out but no one wants to cancel it.