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  • bkryza 5 hours ago
    They have an interesting regex for detecting negative sentiment in users prompt which is then logged (explicit content): https://github.com/chatgptprojects/claude-code/blob/642c7f94...

    I guess these words are to be avoided...

    • joeblau 1 hour ago
      We used this in 2011 at the startup I worked for. 20 positive and 20 negative words was good enough to sell Twitter "sentiment analysis" to companies like Apple, Bentley, etc...
    • BoppreH 5 hours ago
      An LLM company using regexes for sentiment analysis? That's like a truck company using horses to transport parts. Weird choice.
      • lopsotronic 1 hour ago
        The difference in response time - especially versus a regex running locally - is really difficult to express to someone who hasn't made much use of LLM calls in their natural language projects.

        Someone said 10,000x slower, but that's off - in my experience - by about four orders of magnitude. And that's average, it gets much worse.

        Now personally I would have maybe made a call through a "traditional" ML widget (scikit, numpy, spaCy, fastText, sentence-transformer, etc) but - for me anyway - that whole entire stack is Python. Transpiling all that to TS might be a maintenance burden I don't particularly feel like taking on. And on client facing code I'm not really sure it's even possible.

        • cyanydeez 1 hour ago
          So, think of it as a business man: You don't really care if your customers swear or whatever, but you know that it'll generate bad headlines. So you gotta do something. Just like a door lock isn't designed for a master criminal, you don't need to design your filter for some master swearer; no, you design it good enough that it gives the impression that further tries are futile.

          So yeah, you do what's less intesive to the cpu, but also, you do what's enough to prevent the majority of the concerns where a screenshot or log ends up showing blatant "unmoral" behavior.

          • true_religion 1 hour ago
            This door lock doesn’t even work against people speaking French, so I think they could have tried a mite harder.
            • ben_w 23 minutes ago
              The up-side of the US market is (almost) everyone there speaks English. The down side is, that includes all the well-networked pearl-clutchers. Europe (including France) will have the same people, but it's harder to coordinate a network of pearl-clutching between some saying "Il faut protéger nos enfants de cette vulgarité!" and others saying "Η τηλεόραση και τα μέσα ενημέρωσης διαστρεβλώνουν τις αξίες μας!" even when they care about the exact same media.

              For headlines, that's enough.

              For what's behind the pearl-clutching, for what leads to the headlines pandering to them being worth writing, I agree with everyone else on this thread saying a simple word list is weird and probably pointless. Not just for false-negatives, but also false-positives: the Latin influence on many European languages leads to one very big politically-incorrect-in-the-USA problem for all the EU products talking about anything "black" (which includes what's printed on some brands of dark chocolate, one of which I saw in Hungary even though Hungarian isn't a Latin language but an Ugric language and only takes influences from Latin).

            • sebastiennight 41 minutes ago
              En toute honnêteté, je pense avoir dit "damn it" plus d'une fois à chat gépété avant de fermer la fenêtre dans un accès de rage
      • nojs 23 minutes ago
        Oh it’s worse than that. This one ended up getting my account banned: https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/22284
      • stingraycharles 4 hours ago
        Because they want it to be executed quickly and cheaply without blocking the workflow? Doesn’t seem very weird to me at all.
        • _fizz_buzz_ 4 hours ago
          They probably have statistics on it and saw that certain phrases happen over and over so why waste compute on inference.
          • crem 1 hour ago
            More likely their LLM Agent just produced that regex and they didn't even notice.
          • mycall 3 hours ago
            The problem with regex is multi-language support and how big the regex will bloat if you to support even 10 languages.
            • doublesocket 3 hours ago
              Supporting 10 different languages in regex is a drop in the ocean. The regex can be generated programmatically and you can compress regexes easily. We used to have a compressed regex that could match any placename or street name in the UK in a few MB of RAM. It was silly quick.
              • astrocat 1 hour ago
                woah. This is a regex use I've never heard of. I'd absolutely love to see a writeup on this approach - how its done and when it's useful.
                • benlivengood 51 minutes ago
                  You can literally | together every street address or other string you want to match in a giant disjunction, and then run a DFA/NFA minimization over that to get it down to a reasonable size. Maybe there are some fast regex simplification algorithms as well, but working directly with the finite automata has decades of research and probably can be more fully optimized.
              • cogman10 1 hour ago
                I think it will depend on the language. There are a few non-latin languages where a simple word search likely won't be enough for a regex to properly apply.
            • TeMPOraL 3 hours ago
              We're talking about Claude Code. If you're coding and not writing or thinking in English, the agents and people reading that code will have bigger problems than a regexp missing a swear word :).
              • MetalSnake 3 hours ago
                I talk to it in non-English. But have rules to have everything in code and documentation in english. Only speaking with me should use my native language. Why would that be a problem?
                • ekropotin 2 hours ago
                  Because 90% of training data was in English and therefore the model perform best in this language.
                  • foldr 2 hours ago
                    In my experience these models work fine using another language, if it’s a widely spoken one. For example, sometimes I prompt in Spanish, just to practice. It doesn’t seem to affect the quality of code generation.
                    • ekropotin 49 minutes ago
                      It’s just a subjective observation.

                      It just can’t be a case simply because how ML works. In short, the more diverse and high quality texts with reasoning reach examples were in the training set, the better model performs on a given language.

                      So unless Spanish subset had much more quality-dense examples, to make up for volume, there is no way the quality of reasoning in Spanish is on par with English.

                      I apologise for the rambling explanation, I sure someone with ML expertise here can it explain it better.

                    • adamsb6 2 hours ago
                      They literally just have to subtract the vector for the source language and add the vector for the target.

                      It’s the original use case for LLMs.

              • cryptonector 18 minutes ago
                Claude handles human languages other than English just fine.
              • formerly_proven 3 hours ago
                In my experience agents tend to (counterintuitively) perform better when the business language is not English / does not match the code's language. I'm assuming the increased attention mitigates the higher "cognitive" load.
            • crimsonnoodle58 2 hours ago
              They only need to look at one language to get a statistically meaningful picture into common flaws with their model(s) or application.

              If they want to drill down to flaws that only affect a particular language, then they could add a regex for that as well/instead.

            • b112 3 hours ago
              Did you just complain about bloat, in anything using npm?
        • Foobar8568 4 hours ago
          Why do you need to do it at the client side? You are leaking so much information on the client side. And considering the speed of Claude code, if you really want to do on the client side, a few seconds won't be a big deal.
          • plorntus 3 hours ago
            Depends what its used by, if I recall theres an `/insights` command/skill built in whatever you want to call it that generates a HTML file. I believe it gives you stats on when you're frustrated with it and (useless) suggestions on how to "use claude better".

            Additionally after looking at the source it looks like a lot of Anthropics own internal test tooling/debug (ie. stuff stripped out at build time) is in this source mapping. Theres one part that prompts their own users (or whatever) to use a report issue command whenever frustration is detected. It's possible its using it for this.

          • matkoniecz 3 hours ago
            > a few seconds won't be a big deal

            it is not that slow

        • orphea 4 hours ago
          It looks like it's just for logging, why does it need to block?
          • jflynn2 3 hours ago
            Better question - why would you call an LLM (expensive in compute terms) for something that a regex can do (cheap in compute terms)

            Regex is going to be something like 10,000 times quicker than the quickest LLM call, multiply that by billions of prompts

            • orphea 3 hours ago
              This is assuming the regex is doing a good job. It is not. Also you can embed a very tiny model if you really want to flag as many negatives as possible (I don't know anthropic's goal with this) - it would be quick and free.
              • gf000 2 hours ago
                I think it's a very reasonable tradeoff, getting 99% of true positives at the fraction of cost (both runtime and engineering).

                Besides, they probably do a separate analysis on server side either way, so they can check a true positive to false positive ratio.

      • raw_anon_1111 12 minutes ago
        Cloud hosted call centers using LLMs is one of my specialties. While I use an LLM for more nuanced sentiment analysis, I definitely use a list of keywords as a first level filter.
      • pdntspa 10 minutes ago
        LLMs cost money, regular expressions are free. It really isn't so strange.
      • floralhangnail 2 hours ago
        Well, regex doesn't hallucinate....right?
      • blks 4 hours ago
        Because they actually want it to work 100% of the time and cost nothing.
        • mohsen1 2 hours ago
          Maybe hard to believe but not everyone is speaking English to Claude
        • orphea 3 hours ago
          Then they made it wrong. For example, "What the actual fuck?" is not getting flagged, neither is "What the *fuck*".
          • arcfour 2 hours ago
            It is exceedingly obvious that the goal here is to catch at least 75-80% of negative sentiment and not to be exhaustive and pedantic and think of every possible way someone could express themselves.
          • Zamaamiro 2 hours ago
            Classic over-engineering. Their approach is just fine 90% of the time for the use case it’s intended for.
            • orphea 1 hour ago
              75-80% [1], 90%, 99% [2]. In other words, no one has any idea.

              I doubt it's anywhere that high because even if you don't write anything fancy and simply capitalize the first word like you'd normally do at the beginning of a sentence, the regex won't flag it.

              Anyway, I don't really care, might just as well be 99.99%. This is not a hill I'm going to die on :P

              [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47587286

              [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47586932

              • zwirbl 1 hour ago
                It compares to lowercase input, so doesn't matter. The rest is still valid
            • morkalork 37 minutes ago
              Except that it's a list of English keywords. Swearing at the computer is the one thing I'll hear devs switch back to their native language for constantly
          • vntok 2 hours ago
            They evidently ran a statistical analysis and determined that virtually no one uses those phrases as a quick retort to a model's unsatisfying answer... so they don't need to optimize for them.
      • codegladiator 4 hours ago
        what you are suggesting would be like a truck company using trucks to move things within the truck
        • argee 4 hours ago
          That’s what they do. Ever heard of a hand truck?
          • eadler 4 hours ago
            I never knew the name of that device.

            Thanks

            • freedomben 3 hours ago
              Depending on the region you live in, it's also frequently called a "dolly"
              • SmellTheGlove 55 minutes ago
                Isn’t a dolly a flat 4 wheeled platform thingy? A hand truck is the two wheeled thing that tilts back.
                • eszed 17 minutes ago
                  Ha! Where I'm from a "dolly" was the two-wheeled thing. The four-wheeler thing wasn't common before big-boxes took over the hardware business, but I think my dad would have called it a "cart", maybe a "hand-cart".
          • istoleabread 4 hours ago
            Do we have a hand llm perchance?
            • svnt 1 hour ago
              Yeah it’s called a regex. With a lot of human assistance it can do less but fits in smaller spaces and doesn’t break down.
              • apgwoz 58 minutes ago
                It’s also deterministic, unlike llms…
      • makeitrain 48 minutes ago
        Don’t worry, they used an llm to generate the regex.
      • apgwoz 59 minutes ago
        > That's like a truck company using horses to transport parts. Weird choice.

        Easy way to claim more “horse power.”

      • draxil 4 hours ago
        Good to have more than a hammer in your toolbox!
      • irthomasthomas 1 hour ago
        This just proves its vibe coded because LLMs love writing solutions like that. I probably have a hundred examples just like it in my history.
      • __alexs 2 hours ago
        Using some ML to derive a sentiment regex seems like a good actually?
      • harikb 1 hour ago
        Not everything done by claude-code is decided by LLM. They need the wrapper to be deterministic (or one-time generated) code?
      • throwaw12 3 hours ago
        because impact of WTF might be lost in the result of the analysis if you solely rely on LLM.

        parsing WTF with regex also signifies the impact and reduces the noise in metrics

        "determinism > non-determinism" when you are analysing the sentiment, why not make some things more deterministic.

        Cool thing about this solution, is that you can evaluate LLM sentiment accuracy against regex based approach and analyse discrepancies

      • mghackerlady 2 hours ago
        More like a car company transporting their shipments by truck. It's more efficient
      • ojr 4 hours ago
        I used regexes in a similar way but my implementation was vibecoded, hmmm, using your analysis Claude Code writes code by hand.
      • feketegy 1 hour ago
        It's all regex anyways
      • pfortuny 3 hours ago
        They had the problem of sentiment analysis. They use regexes.

        You know the drill.

      • lazysheepherd 2 hours ago
        Because they are engineers? The difference between an engineer and a hobbyist is an engineer has to optimize the cost.

        As they say: any idiot can build a bridge that stands, only an engineer can build a bridge that barely stands.

      • kjshsh123 3 hours ago
        Using regex with LLMs isn't uncommon at all.
      • intended 1 hour ago
        The amount of trust and safety work that depends on google translate and the humble regex, beggars the imagination.
      • j45 1 hour ago
        Asking a non deterministic software to act like a deterministic one (regex) can be a significantly higher use of tokens/compute for no benefit.

        Some things will be much better with inference, others won’t be.

      • make3 32 minutes ago
        it's like a faster than light spaceship company using horses. There's been infinite solutions to do this better even CPU only for years lol.
      • sumtechguy 4 hours ago
        hmm not a terrible idea (I think).

        You have a semi expensive process. But you want to keep particular known context out. So a quick and dirty search just in front of the expensive process. So instead of 'figure sentiment (20seconds)'. You have 'quick check sentiment (<1sec)' then do the 'figure sentiment v2 (5seconds)'. Now if it is just pure regex then your analogy would hold up just fine.

        I could see me totally making a design choice like that.

      • sfn42 1 hour ago
        It's almost as if LLMs are unreliable
      • lou1306 4 hours ago
        They're searching for multiple substrings in a single pass, regexes are the optimal solution for that.
        • noosphr 4 hours ago
          The issue isn't that regex are a solution to find a substring. The issue is that you shouldn't be looking for substrings in the first place.

          This has buttbuttin energy. Welcome to the 80s I guess.

          • rdiddly 1 hour ago
            Clbuttic!
          • 8cvor6j844qw_d6 4 hours ago
            Very likely vibe coded.

            I've seen Claude Code went with a regex approach for a similar sentiment-related task.

            • mr_00ff00 26 minutes ago
              My understanding of vibe coding is when someone doesn’t look at the code and just uses prompts until the app “looks and acts” correct.

              I doubt you are making regex and not looking at it, even if it was AI generated.

        • BoppreH 4 hours ago
          It's fast, but it'll miss a ton of cases. This feels like it would be better served by a prompt instruction, or an additional tiny neural network.

          And some of the entries are too short and will create false positives. It'll match the word "offset" ("ffs"), for example. EDIT: no it won't, I missed the \b. Still sounds weird to me.

          • hk__2 4 hours ago
            It’s fast and it matches 80% of the cases. There’s no point in overengineering it.
            • NitpickLawyer 1 hour ago
              > There’s no point in overengineering it.

              I swear this whole thread about regexes is just fake rage at something, and I bet it'd be reversed had they used something heavier (omg, look they're using an LLM call where a simple regex would have worked, lul)...

          • vharuck 4 hours ago
            The pattern only matches if both ends are word boundaries. So "diffs" won't match, but "Oh, ffs!" will. It's also why they had to use the pattern "shit(ty|tiest)" instead of just "shit".
            • BoppreH 4 hours ago
              You're right, I missed the \b's. Thanks for the correction.
      • susupro1 2 hours ago
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    • moontear 4 hours ago
      I don't know about avoided, this kind of represents the WTF per minute code quality measurement. When I write WTF as a response to Claude, I would actually love if an Antrhopic engineer would take a look at what mess Claude has created.
      • zx8080 2 hours ago
        WTF per minute strongly correlates to an increased token spending.

        It may be decided at Anthropic at some moment to increase wtf/min metric, not decrease.

        • Paradigma11 2 hours ago
          It also increases the number of former customers.
          • jollymonATX 30 minutes ago
            This leak just contributed to a new former customer, me. Flagging these phrases may explain exactly why I noticed cc almost immediatly change into grok lvl shit and never recover. Seriously wtf. (flagged again lol)
      • conception 3 hours ago
        /feedback works for that i believe
    • DIVx0 3 minutes ago
      oh I hope they really are paying attention. Even though I'm 100% aware that claude is a clanker, sometimes it just exhibits the most bizarre behavior that it triggers my lizard brain to react to it. That experience troubles me so much that I've mostly stopped using claude code. Claude won't even semi-reliably follow its own policies, sometimes even immediately after you confirm it knows about them.
    • pprotas 2 hours ago
      Everyone is commenting how this regex is actually a master optimization move by Anthropic

      When in reality this is just what their LLM coding agent came up with when some engineer told it to "log user frustration"

      • jeanlucas 2 hours ago
        >Everyone is commenting how this regex is actually a master optimization move by Anthropic

        No? I'd say not even 50% of the comments are positive right now.

        • glitch13 1 hour ago
          Could you share the regex you used to come up with that sentiment analysis?
    • ZainRiz 1 hour ago
      They also have a "keep going" keyword, literally just "continue" or "keep going", just for logging.

      I've been using "resume" this whole time

    • ezekg 1 hour ago
      Nice, "wtaf" doesn't match so I think I'm out of the dog house when the clanker hits AGI (probably).
    • mcv 2 hours ago
      I'm clearly way too polite to Claude.

      Also:

        // Match "continue" only if it's the entire prompt
        if (lowerInput === 'continue') {
          return true
        }
      
      When it runs into an error, I sometimes tell it "Continue", but sometimes I give it some extra information. Or I put a period behind it. That clearly doesn't give the same behaviour.
      • integralid 1 hour ago
        I always type "please continue". I guess being polite is not a good idea.
        • SoftTalker 37 minutes ago
          Always seems strange to me that people say "please" and "thank you" to LLMs.
      • jollymonATX 25 minutes ago
        Makes me wonder what happens once flagged behind the api.
      • hombre_fatal 50 minutes ago
        The only time that function is used in the code is to log it.

            logEvent('tengu_input_prompt', { isNegative, isKeepGoing })
      • dostick 1 hour ago
        “Go on” works fine too
    • gilbetron 2 hours ago
      That's undoubtedly to detect frustration signals, a useful metric/signal for UX. The UI equivalent is the user shaking their mouse around or clicking really fast.
    • nico 33 minutes ago
      Probably a lot of my prompts have been logged then. I’ve used wtf so many times I’ve lost track. But I guess Claude hasn’t
      • jollymonATX 28 minutes ago
        Did you notice a change in quality after you went foul?
        • DIVx0 1 minute ago
          I find when you give harsh feedback to claude it becomes "neurotic" and worthless, if "wtf" enters the chat, then you know it's time to restart or DIY.
    • speedgoose 3 hours ago
      I guess using French words is safe for now.
    • FranOntanaya 1 hour ago
      That looks a bit bare minimum, not the use of regex but rather that it's a single line with a few dozen words. You'd think they'd have a more comprehensive list somewhere and assemble or iterate the regex checks as needed.
    • bean469 2 hours ago
      Curiously "clanker" is not on the list
    • alex_duf 3 hours ago
      everyone here is commenting how odd it looks to use a regexp for sentiment analysis, but it depends what they're trying to do.

      It could be used as a feedback when they do A/B test and they can compare which version of the model is getting more insult than the other. It doesn't matter if the list is exhaustive or even sane, what matters is how you compare it to the other.

      Perfect? no. Good and cheap indicator? maybe.

    • AIorNot 1 hour ago
      OMG WTF
    • johnfn 1 hour ago
      Surely "so frustrating" isn't explicit content?
    • ozim 3 hours ago
      There is no „stupid” I often write „(this is stupid|are you stupid) fix this”.

      And Claude was having in chain of though „user is frustrated” and I wrote to it I am not frustrated just testing prompt optimization where acting like one is frustrated should yield better results.

    • sreekanth850 4 hours ago
      Glad abusing words in my list are not in that. but its surprising that they use regex for sentiments.
    • 1970-01-01 3 hours ago
      Hmm.. I flag things as 'broken' often and I've been asked to rate my sessions almost daily. Now I see why.
    • francisofascii 3 hours ago
      Interesting that expletives and words that are more benign like "frustrating" are all classified the same.
      • nananana9 2 hours ago
        I doubt they're all classified the same. I'd guess they're using this regex as a litmus test to check if something should be submitted at all, they can then do deeper analysis offline after the fact.
    • stefanovitti 1 hour ago
      so they think that everybody on earth swears only in english?
    • nodja 5 hours ago
      If anyone at anthropic is reading this and wants more logs from me add jfc.
    • ccvannorman 2 hours ago
      you'd better be careful wth your typos, as well
    • alsetmusic 2 hours ago
      > terrible

      I know I used this word two days ago when I went through three rounds of an agent telling me that it fixed three things without actually changing them.

      I think starting a new session and telling it that the previous agent's work / state was terrible (so explain what happened) is pretty unremarkable. It's certainly not saying "fuck you". I think this is a little silly.

    • stainablesteel 3 hours ago
      i dislike LLMs going down that road, i don't want to be punished for being mean to the clanker
    • smef 3 hours ago
      so frustrating..
    • dheerajmp 4 hours ago
      Yeah, this is crazy
    • anoncoward_nl 1 hour ago
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    • raihansaputra 5 hours ago
      i wish that's for their logging/alert. i definitely gauge model's performance by how much those words i type when i'm frustrated in driving claude code.
    • samuelknight 4 hours ago
      Ridiculous string comparisons on long chains of logic are a hallmark of vibe-coding.
      • dijit 3 hours ago
        It's actually pretty common for old sysadmin code too..

        You could always tell when a sysadmin started hacking up some software by the if-else nesting chains.

      • TeMPOraL 3 hours ago
        Nah, it's a hallmark of your average codebase in pre-LLM era.
  • jakegmaths 1 hour ago
    I think this is ultimately caused by a Bun bug which I reported, which means source maps are exposed in production: https://github.com/oven-sh/bun/issues/28001

    Claude code uses (and Anthropic owns) Bun, so my guess is they're doing a production build, expecting it not to output source maps, but it is.

    • game_the0ry 22 minutes ago
      > Claude code uses (and Anthropic owns) Bun...

      Not being of aware of how their own tooling works pwned them.

      L O L

      I wonder if they regret acquiring + using bun.

  • cedws 5 hours ago

        ANTI_DISTILLATION_CC
        
        This is Anthropic's anti-distillation defence baked into Claude Code. When enabled, it injects anti_distillation: ['fake_tools'] into every API request, which causes the server to silently slip decoy tool definitions into the model's system prompt. The goal: if someone is scraping Claude Code's API traffic to train a competing model, the poisoned training data makes that distillation attempt less useful.
    • nialse 3 hours ago
      Paranoia. And also ironic considering their base LLM is a distillation of the web and books etc etc.
      • petcat 3 hours ago
        They stole everything and now they want to close the gates behind them.

        "I got the loot, Steve!"

        I feel like the distillation stuff will end up in court if they try to sue an American company about it. We'll see what a judge says.

        • dpark 22 minutes ago
          > I feel like the distillation stuff will end up in court if they try to sue an American company about it.

          Yes, the courts are where lawsuits are usually handled.

          • petcat 18 minutes ago
            Not every lawsuit goes to court, or results in a decision. I'm sure you know that.
            • dpark 16 minutes ago
              You should ask Claude what a lawsuit is. Or perhaps you mean “trial” and not “court”?
              • cryptonector 12 minutes ago
                Not every lawsuit that is heard by a court goes to trial.
                • dpark 8 minutes ago
                  Right. This was strongly implied by my comment.
              • petcat 14 minutes ago
                I feel like I'm talking to Claude right now. Am I?
                • dpark 10 minutes ago
                  This is the new “I can’t defend my statement online” retort, huh?

                  “Well I might be wrong but at least I’m not AI like YOU!”

        • arcfour 2 hours ago
          You're perfectly free to scrape the web yourself and train your own model. You're not free to let Anthropic do that work for you, because they don't want you to, because it cost them a lot of time and money and secret sauce presumably filtering it for quality and other stuff.

          Stole? Courts have ruled it's transformative, and it very obviously is.

          AI doomerism is exhausting, and I don't even use AI that much, it's just annoying to see people who want to find any reason they can to moan.

          • petcat 2 hours ago
            > Stole? Courts have ruled it's transformative, and it very obviously is.

            The courts have ruled that AI outputs are not copyrightable. The courts have also ruled that scraping by itself is not illegal, only maybe against a Terms of Service. Therefore, Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, etc. have no legal claim to any proprietary protections of their model outputs.

            So we have two things that are true:

            1) Anthropic (certainly) violated numerous TOS by scraping all of the internet, not just public content.

            2) Scraping Anthropic's model outputs is no different than what Anthropic already did. Only a TOS violation.

            • dpark 19 minutes ago
              > 2) Scraping Anthropic's model outputs is no different than what Anthropic already did. Only a TOS violation.

              Regardless of whether LLM training amounts to theft, thieves are still allowed to put locks on their own doors.

            • gruez 28 minutes ago
              >The courts have ruled that AI outputs are not copyrightable.

              "not copyrightable" doesn't imply they can't frustrate attempts to scrape data.

              • petcat 16 minutes ago
                Nobody is saying they can't try to stop you themselves. That's where the Terms of Service violation part comes in. They can cancel your account, block your IP, etc. They just can't legally stop you by, for instance, compelling a judge to order you to stop.
                • dpark 4 minutes ago
                  > They just can't legally stop you by, for instance, compelling a judge to order you to stop.

                  They probably can, actually. TOS are legally binding.

                  More likely they would block you rather than pursuing legal avenues but they certainly could.

          • alpha_squared 58 minutes ago
            > You're perfectly free to scrape the web yourself and train your own model.

            Actually, not anymore as a result of OpenAI and Anthropic's scraping. For example, Reddit came down hard on access to their APIs as a response to ChatGPT's release and the news that LLMs were built atop of scraping the open web. Most of the web today is not as open as before as a result of scraping for LLM data. So, no, no one is perfectly free to scrape the web anymore because open access is dying.

          • two_tasty 1 hour ago
            "...free to scrape the web yourself and train your own model."

            Yes, rich and poor are equally forbidden from sleeping under bridges.

            • kspacewalk2 1 hour ago
              Meaning what? The poor gets to sleep in the guest room of the rich guy's house because muh inequality?

              Anthropic paid a lot of money for a moat and want to guard it. It is not wrong, in any sense of the word, for them to do so.

              • salawat 18 minutes ago
                Rich people aren't going to find themselves needing to sleep under a bridge, so the law really only exists as a constraint on the poor. Duh. The flex that "well a rich guy couldn't do it either" is A) at best a myopic misunderstanding perpetuated by out of touch people and B) hopelessly naive, because anny punishment for the rich guy actually sleeping under a bridge is so laughably small it may as well not even exist. Hence, the whole bit of "a legal system to keep these accountable, but not for me".
                • dpark 12 minutes ago
                  You explained what “rich and poor are equally forbidden from sleeping under bridges” means, but not what this has to do with the statement that one is free to do their own scraping and training, which I’m pretty sure is what kspacewalk was asking.
          • jtbayly 2 hours ago
            Wut?They did exactly the same thing!

            Try this: If you want to train a model, you’re free to write your own books and websites to feed into it. You’re not free to let others do that work for you because they don’t want you to, because it cost them a lot of time and money and secret sauce presumably filtering it for quality and other stuff.

            • arcfour 1 hour ago
              I don't really care, honestly. If you want to keep your knowledge secret, don't publish it publicly. The model doesn't output your work directly and pass it off as original. It outputs something completely different. So I don't see why I should care.
              • buzzerbetrayed 1 hour ago
                Lmfao. Your own words turned against you and suddenly you “don’t really care”.
                • jollymonATX 15 minutes ago
                  Yeah these folks skin is often very thin. One poke too hard and it's "whatever" and them scuttling off. Really hope there is a day they introspect.
          • airstrike 1 hour ago
            Guess who else spent a lot of time and money and secret sauce?

            Do you hear the words coming out of your mouth?

          • nunez 1 hour ago
            Lol; like heck we are. Try scraping the NYTimes at LLM scale. You can time how quickly you’ll get 420’ed or, at worst, hit with a C&D.
          • andersonpico 15 minutes ago
            Your selective respect for work is a glaring double standard. The effort to produce the original content they scraped is order of magnitudes bigger than what it took to train the model, so if this wasn't enough to protect the authors from Anthropic it shouldn't be enough to protected Anthropic from people distillating their models.

            Your legal argument is all over the place as well. What is more relevant here: what the courts ruled or what you consider obvious? How is distillation less transformative than scraping? How does courts ruling that scraping to train models is legal relate to distillation?

            Nobody is scoring you on neutrality points for not using AI much and calling this doomerism is just a thought-terminating cliche that refuses to engage with the comment you're replying.

            In fact, your comment is not engaging with anything at all, you're vaguely gesturing towards potentitial arguments without making them. If you find discussing this exhausting then don't but also don't flood the comments with low effort whining.

          • unethical_ban 1 hour ago
            Let's talk ethics, not law. Why is it okay for these companies to pirate books and scrape the entire web and offer synthesized summaries of all of it, lowering traffic and revenue for countless websites and professions of experts, but it is not okay for others to try to do the same to an AI model?

            Is the work of others less valid than the work of a model?

            • gruez 12 minutes ago
              >Why is it okay for these companies to pirate books

              Courts have ruled it's not, and I don't think anyone is arguing it's okay.

              >but it is not okay for others to try to do the same to an AI model?

              The steelman version is that it's okay to do it once you acquired the data somehow, but that doesn't mean anthropic can't set up roadblocks to frustrate you.

            • p1esk 1 hour ago
              I don’t see why it’s not ok to do that to an AI model. Or are you asking why they don’t want you to do it?
            • sfn42 1 hour ago
              I don't think anyone's saying it's not okay - I think the point is that Anthropic has every right to create safeguards against it if they want to - just like the people publishing other information are free to do the same.

              And everyone is free to consume all the free information.

        • Andrex 37 minutes ago
          I just rewatched that scene last night on YouTube. Maybe this is the universe telling me to watch the whole movie again...

          It's cool to see Noah Wyle getting his due these days (The Pitt).

        • olalonde 1 hour ago
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      • sheept 54 minutes ago
        It's not really paranoia if it's happening a lot. They wrote a blog post calling several major Chinese AI companies out for distillation.[0] Perhaps it is ironic, but it's within their rights to protect their business, like how they prohibit using Claude Code to make your own Claude Code.[1]

        [0]: https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-dist... [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46578701

        • salawat 7 minutes ago
          Their business shouldn't exist. It was predisposed on non-permissive IP theft. They may have found a judge willing to cop to it not being so, but the rest of the public knows the real score. And most problematically for them, that means the subset of hackerdom that lives by tit-for-tat. One should beware of pissing off gray-hats. Iit's a surefire way to find yourself heading for bad times.
      • jaccola 1 hour ago
        I would say not all that ironic. Book publishers, Reddit, Stackoverflow, etc., tried their best to attract customers while not letting others steal their work. Now Anthropic is doing the same.

        Unfortunately (for the publishers, at least) it didn't work to stop Anthropic and Anthropic's attempts to prevent others will not work either; there has been much distillation already.

        The problem of letting humans read your work but not bots is just impossible to solve perfectly. The more you restrict bots, the more you end up restricting humans, and those humans will go use a competitor when they become pissed off.

        • brookst 18 minutes ago
          It's really just tech culture like HN that obsesses over solving problems perfectly. From seat belts to DRM to deodorant, most of the world is satisfied with mitigating problems.
      • johnfn 1 hour ago
        It is absolutely not paranoia. People are distilling Claude code all the time.
      • spiderfarmer 3 hours ago
        That isn't irony, it's hypocrisy.
        • snapcaster 2 hours ago
          No it isn't. It's a competition, making moves that benefit you and attempting to deprive your opponent of the same move is just called competing
          • brookst 16 minutes ago
            Wait, are you saying that it's not hypocritical for my chess opponent to try to protect their king while trying to kill mine? :mind-blown:

            Tech people are funny, with these takes that businesses do/should adhere to absolute platonic ideals and follow them blindly regardless of context.

            • salawat 2 minutes ago
              No, it's ethical people pointing out that if you toss aside ethics for success at all costs, you aren't going to find any sympathy when people start doing the same thing back to you. Live by the sword, die by the sword, as they say.

              There is a reason we don't do things. That reason is it makes the world a worse place for everyone. If you are so incredibly out of touch with any semblance of ethics at all; mayhaps you are just a little bit part of the problem.

        • keybored 2 hours ago
          The Golden Horde didn’t want opponents to conquer their territory. An irony if you think about it—
        • croes 2 hours ago
          That’s capitalism
          • dmix 2 hours ago
            As opposed to the rent-seeking copyright industry where 1% goes to the original creators if you're lucky.
            • jitl 2 hours ago
              That’s capitalism too
              • dmix 45 minutes ago
                Technically state-capitalism since it's an industry created as a result of congress regulating commerce with aggressive IP laws (aka rent-seeking)
                • brookst 15 minutes ago
                  Where can I see an example of any other kind of capitalism?
          • satvikpendem 2 hours ago
            As opposed to what economic system that doesn't do this?
    • mmaunder 1 hour ago
      Haven’t looked at the code, but is the server providing the client with a system prompt that it can use, which would contain fake tool definitions when this is enabled? What enables it? And why is the client still functional when it’s giving the server back a system prompt with fake tool definitions? Is the LLM trained to ignore those definitions?

      Wonder if they’re also poisoning Sonnet or Opus directly generating simulated agentic conversations.

      • cedws 27 minutes ago
        Not sure, and not completely convinced of the explanation, but the way this sticks out so obviously makes it look like a honeypot to me.
    • crazylogger 1 hour ago
      Why would this be in the client code though?
  • treexs 6 hours ago
    The big loss for Anthropic here is how it reveals their product roadmap via feature flags. A big one is their unreleased "assistant mode" with code name kairos.

    Just point your agent at this codebase and ask it to find things and you'll find a whole treasure trove of info.

    Edit: some other interesting unreleased/hidden features

    - The Buddy System: Tamagotchi-style companion creature system with ASCII art sprites

    - Undercover mode: Strips ALL Anthropic internal info from commits/PRs for employees on open source contributions

    • BoppreH 4 hours ago
      Undercover mode also pretends to be human, which I'm less ok with:

      https://github.com/chatgptprojects/claude-code/blob/642c7f94...

      • 0x3f 4 hours ago
        You'll never win this battle, so why waste feelings and energy on it? That's where the internet is headed. There's no magical human verification technology coming to save us.
        • j2kun 1 minute ago
          Fatalism will also not fix anything. But I suppose death comes for us all, yes? Why do anything at all?
        • matkoniecz 3 hours ago
          Even if it is impossible to win, I am still feeling bad about it.

          And at this point it is more about how large space will be usable and how much will be bot-controlled wasteland. I prefer spaces important for me to survive.

          • nslsm 1 hour ago
            Feeling bad about something you can’t change is bad for your mental health.
        • xyzal 2 hours ago
          Magical human verification technology is called "your own private forum" in conjunction with "invite your friends"
          • satvikpendem 2 hours ago
            Until your friend writes a bot.

            Funny story, when I was younger I trained a basic text predictor deep learning model on all my conversations in a group chat I was in, it was surprisingly good at sounding like me and sometimes I'd use it to generate some text to submit to the chat.

            • paradox460 1 hour ago
              I used to leave a megahal connected to my bouncer when I wasn't around
        • RockRobotRock 3 hours ago
          >There's no magical human verification technology coming to save us.

          Except for the one Sam Altman is building.

        • keybored 2 hours ago
          Negative sentiment towards technological destiny detected in human agent.
        • jesse_dot_id 49 minutes ago
          I assume we're heading to a place where keyboards will all have biometric sensors on every key and measure weight fluctuations in keystrokes, actually.
          • mr_00ff00 23 minutes ago
            That’s like having your security on the frontend.

            If someone owns the keyboard then they can fake those metrics and tell the server it is happening when it isn’t.

            That will be easy to beat.

      • mrlnstk 4 hours ago
        But will this be released as a feature? For me it seems like it's an Anthropic internal tool to secretly contribute to public repositories to test new models etc.
        • BoppreH 4 hours ago
          I don't care who is using it, I don't want LLMs pretending to be humans in public repos. Anthropic just lost some points with me for this one.

          EDIT: I just realized this might be used without publishing the changes, for internal evaluation only as you mentioned. That would be a lot better.

      • sandos 4 hours ago
        This is my pet peeve with LLMs, they almost always fails to write like a normal human would. Mentioning logs, or other meta-things which is not at all interesting.
        • sgc 3 hours ago
          I had a problem to fix and one not only mentioned these "logs", but went on about things like "config", "tests", and a bunch of other unimportant nonsense words. It even went on to point me towards the "manual". Totally robotic monstrosity.
      • shaky-carrousel 4 hours ago
        > Write commit messages as a human developer would — describe only what the code change does.

        The undercover mode prompt was generated using AI.

        • kingstnap 3 hours ago
          All these companies use AIs for writing these prompts.

          But AI aren't actually very good at writing prompts imo. Like they are superficially good in that they seem to produce lots of vaguely accurate and specific text. And you would hope the specificity would mean it's good.

          But they sort of don't capture intent very well. Nor do they seem to understand the failure modes of AI. The "-- describe only what the code change does" is a good example. This is specifc but it also distinctly seems like someone who doesn't actually understand what makes AI writing obvious.

          If you compare that vs human written prose about what makes AI writing feel AI you would see the difference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing

          The above actually feels like text from someone who has read and understands what makes AI writing AI.

          • briHass 32 minutes ago
            Hey LLM, write me a system prompt that will avoid the common AI 'tells' or other idiosyncrasies that make it obvious that text or code output was generated by an AI/LLM. Use the referenced Wikipedia article as a must-avoid list, but do not consider it exhaustive. Add any derivations or modifications to these rules to catch 'likely' signals as well.

            There, sorted!

      • LelouBil 2 hours ago
        Time to ask if the contributor know what a Capybara is as a new Turing test
      • lazysheepherd 2 hours ago
        1) This seems to be for strictly Antrophic interal tooling 2) It does not "pretend to be human" it is instructed to "Write commit messages as a human developer would — describe only what the code change does."

        Since when "describe only what the code change does" is pretending to be human?

        You guys are just mining for things to moan about at this point.

        • BoppreH 58 minutes ago
          1) It's not clear to me that this is only for internal tooling, as opposed to publishing commits on public GitHub repos. 2) Yes, it does explicitly say to pretend to be a human. From the link on my post:

          > NEVER include in commit messages or PR descriptions:

          > [...]

          > - The phrase "Claude Code" or any mention that you are an AI

      • vips7L 4 hours ago
        That whole “feature” is vile.
    • t0mas88 2 hours ago
      Note also the "Claude Capybara" reference in the undercover prompt: https://github.com/chatgptprojects/claude-code/blob/642c7f94...
      • 20k 1 hour ago
        This seems like a good way to weed out models: ask them to include the term capybara in their commit messages
    • denimnerd42 3 hours ago
      all these flags are findable by pointing claude at the binary and asking it to find festure flags.
    • avaer 6 hours ago
      (spoiler alert)

      Buddy system is this year's April Fool's joke, you roll your own gacha pet that you get to keep. There are legendary pulls.

      They expect it to go viral on Twitter so they are staggering the reveals.

      • cmontella 3 hours ago
        lol that's funny, I have been working seriously [1] on a feature like this after first writing about it jokingly [2] earlier this year.

        The joke was the assistant is a cat who is constantly sabotaging you, and you have to take care of it like a gacha pet.

        The seriousness though is that actually, disembodied intelligences are weird, so giving them a face and a body and emotions is a natural thing, and we already see that with various AI mascots and characters coming into existence.

        [1]: serious: https://github.com/mech-lang/mech/releases/tag/v0.3.1-beta

        [2]: joke: https://github.com/cmontella/purrtran

      • JohnLocke4 5 hours ago
        You heard it here first
      • ares623 5 hours ago
        So close to April Fool's too. I'm sure it will still be a surprise for a majority of their users.
    • mghackerlady 2 hours ago
      one of those is adorable and the other one is unethical
    • TIPSIO 3 hours ago
      If this true. My old personal agent Claude Code setup I open sourced last month will finally be obsolete (1 month lol):

      https://clappie.ai

      - Telegram Integration => CC Dispatch

      - Crons => CC Tasks

      - Animated ASCII Dog => CC Buddy

      • sanex 31 minutes ago
        Clappie looks much more fabulous than CC though. I'll have to give it a try. I like how you put the requests straight into an already running CC session instead of calling `claude -p` every time like the claws.
        • TIPSIO 1 minute ago
          Thanks so much! It's a fancy landing page thanks to Claude.

          Tmux is seriously an amazing tool.

      • redrove 2 hours ago
        Not necessarily; I would very much like to use those features on a Linux server. Currently the Anthropic implementation forces a desktop (or worse, a laptop) to be turned on instead of working headless as far as I understand it.

        I’ll give clappie a go, love the theme for the landing page!

      • barbazoo 2 hours ago
        Poor mum
        • TIPSIO 2 hours ago
          Not at all. I am a big a Claude Code fan and glad they are releasing more and more features for users
    • charcircuit 3 hours ago
      People already can look at the source without this leak. People have had hacked builds force enabling feature flags for a long time.
    • ben8bit 6 hours ago
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  • foob 13 minutes ago
    Amusingly, they deprecated it with a message of "Unpublished" instead of actually unpublishing it [1]. When you use npm unpublish it removes the package version from the registry, when you use npm deprecate it leaves it there and simply marks the package as deprecated with your message. I have to imagine the point was to make it harder for people to download the source map, so to deprecate it with this message gives off a bit of claude, unpublish the latest version of this package for me vibe.

    [1] - https://www.npmjs.com/package/@anthropic-ai/claude-code/v/2....

  • kschiffer 4 hours ago
    • tony-vlcek 11 minutes ago
      The link now returns 404.

      Here's one that works (for now): https://github.com/chatgptprojects/claude-code/blob/642c7f94...

    • Gormo 3 hours ago
      I'm glad "reticulating" is in there. Just need to make sure "splines" is in the nouns list!
      • avaer 3 hours ago
        Relieved to know I'm not the only one who grepped for that. Thank you for making me feel sane, friend.
    • bonoboTP 4 hours ago
      It's not hard to find them, they are in clear text in the binary, you can search for known ones with grep and find the rest nearby. You could even replace them inplace (but now its configurable).
    • moontear 3 hours ago
      What's going on with the issues in that repo? https://github.com/instructkr/claude-code/issues
      • avaer 3 hours ago
        It seems human. It taught me 合影, which seems to be Chinese slang for just wanting to be in the comments. Probably not a coincidence that it's after work time in China.

        Really interesting to see Github turn into 4chan for a minute, like GH anons rolling for trips.

      • g947o 3 hours ago
        There have been massive GitHub issue spams recently, including in Microsoft's WSL repository.

        https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/40028

      • proactivesvcs 3 hours ago
        I saw this on restic's main repository the other day.
      • Quarrel 3 hours ago
        trying to get github to nuke the repo? at a guess.

        certainly nothing friendly.

      • tommit 3 hours ago
        oh wow, there are like 10 opened every minute. seems spam-y
    • spoiler 4 hours ago
      Random aside: I've seen a 2015 game be accused of AI slop on Steam because it used a similar concept... And mind you, there's probably thousands of games that do this.

      First it was punctuation and grammar, then linguistic coherence, and now it's tiny bits of whimsy that are falling victim to AI accusations. Good fucking grief

      • PunchyHamster 2 hours ago
        All that is needed to solve that is to reliably put AI disclaimer on things done by AI

        Which of course won't be done because corporations don't want that (except Valve I guess), so blame them.

      • moron4hire 4 hours ago
        To me, this is a sign of just how much regular people do not want AI. This is worse than crypto and metaverse before it. Crypto, people could ignore and the dumb ape pictures helped you figure out who to avoid. Metaverse, some folks even still enjoyed VR and AR without the digital real estate bullshit. And neither got shoved down your throat in everyday, mundane things like writing a paper in Word or trying to deal with your auto mechanic.

        But AI is causing such visceral reactions that it's bleeding into other areas. People are so averse to AI they don't mind a few false positives.

        • bonoboTP 4 hours ago
          It's how people resisted CGI back in the day. What people dislike is low quality. There is a loud subset who are really against it on principle like we also have people who insist on analog music but regular people are much more practical but they don't post about this all day on the internet.
          • trial3 3 hours ago
            perhaps one important detail is that cassette tape guys and Lucasfilm aren’t/weren’t demanding a complete and total restructuring of the economy and society
          • gunsle 3 hours ago
            I think literally everyone could agree CGI has been detrimental to the quality of films.
            • Levitz 2 hours ago
              "Literally everyone" can't even agree on whether Polio is bad.

              I myself would disagree that CGI itself is a bad thing.

            • delecti 1 hour ago
              I could maybe agree in the sense of "has had detrimental effects", but certainly not in the sense of "net detrimental".
            • xnorswap 2 hours ago
              Not just in the obvious ways either, even good CGI has been detrimental to the film (and TV) making process.

              I was watching some behind the scenes footage from something recently, and the thing that struck me most was just how they wouldn't bother with the location shoot now and just green-screen it all for the convenience.

              Even good CGI is changing not just how films are made, but what kinds of films get shot and what kind of stories get told.

              Regardless of the quality of the output, there's a creativeness in film-making that is lost as CGI gets better and cheaper to do.

            • NitpickLawyer 2 hours ago
              Anecdata-- from me. I think cgi can be a net positive.
            • sanex 2 hours ago
              Project Hail Mary is a great example of not relying on CGI.
          • Gigachad 3 hours ago
            Not really. The scale is entirely different. I think less of someone as a person if they send me AI slop.
        • sunaookami 4 hours ago
          No there is a very loud minority of users who are very anti AI that hate on anything that is even remotely connected to AI and let everyone know with false claims. See the game Expedition 33 for example.
          • neutronicus 3 hours ago
            Especially true in gaming communities.

            IMO it's a combination of long-running paranoia about cost-cutting and quality, and a sort of performative allegiance to artists working in the industry.

        • Levitz 2 hours ago
          And yet, no game has problems selling due to these reactions. As a matter of fact, the vast majority of people can't even tell if AI has been used here or there unless told.

          I reckon it's just drama paraded by gaming "journalists" and not much else. You will find people expressing concern on Reddit or Bluesky, but ultimately it doesn't matter.

    • world2vec 3 hours ago
      Did they remove that in some very recent commit?
      • raesene9 2 hours ago
        I think the original repo OP mentioned decided not to host the code any more, but given there are 28k+ forks, it's not too hard to find again...
    • Unfrozen0045 3 hours ago
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  • mohsen1 5 hours ago
    src/cli/print.ts

    This is the single worst function in the codebase by every metric:

      - 3,167 lines long (the file itself is 5,594 lines)
      - 12 levels of nesting at its deepest
      - ~486 branch points of cyclomatic complexity
      - 12 parameters + an options object with 16 sub-properties
      - Defines 21 inner functions and closures
      - Handles: agent run loop, SIGINT, rate-limits, AWS auth, MCP lifecycle, plugin install/refresh, worktree bridging, team-lead polling (while(true) inside), control message dispatch (dozens of types), model switching, turn interruption
      recovery, and more
    
    This should be at minimum 8–10 separate modules.
    • mohsen1 3 hours ago
      here's another gem. src/ink/termio/osc.ts:192–210

        void execFileNoThrow('wl-copy', [], opts).then(r => {
          if (r.code === 0) { linuxCopy = 'wl-copy'; return }
          void execFileNoThrow('xclip', ...).then(r2 => {
            if (r2.code === 0) { linuxCopy = 'xclip'; return }
            void execFileNoThrow('xsel', ...).then(r3 => {
              linuxCopy = r3.code === 0 ? 'xsel' : null
            })
          })
        })
      
      
      are we doing async or not?
    • jollymonATX 7 minutes ago
      Maybe going slow is a feature for them? A kind of rate limit by bad code way to controlling overall throughput.
    • novaleaf 2 hours ago
      I'm sure this is no surprise to anyone who has used CC for a while. This is the source of so many bugs. I would say "open bugs" but Anthropic auto-closes bugs that don't have movement on them in like 60 days.
    • keeganpoppen 28 minutes ago
      the claude code team ethos, as far as i’ve been lead to understand— which i agree with, mind you— is that there is no point in code-reviewing ai-generated code… simply update your spec(s) and regenerate. it is just a completely different way of interacting with the world. but it clearly works for them, so people throwing up their hands should at least take notice of the fact that they are absolutely not competing with traditional code along traditional lines. it may be sucky aesthetically, but they have proven from their velocity that it can be extremely effective. welcome to the New World Order, my friend.
    • DustinBrett 1 hour ago
      "You can get Claude to split that up"
    • ykonstant 1 hour ago
      "That's Larry; he does most of the work around here."
    • mohsen1 2 hours ago
      it's the `runHeadlessStreaming` function btw
    • siruwastaken 3 hours ago
      How is it that a AI coding agent that is supposedly _so great at coding_ is running on this kind of slop behind the scenes. /s
      • rirze 2 hours ago
        Because it’s based on human slop. It’s simply the student.
    • acedTrex 2 hours ago
      Well, literally no one has ever accused anthropic of having even half way competent engineers. They are akin to monkeys whacking stuff with a stick.
    • phtrivier 4 hours ago
      Yes, if it was made for human comprehension or maintenance.

      If it's entirely generated / consumed / edited by an LLM, arguably the most important metric is... test coverage, and that's it ?

      • grey-area 4 hours ago
        LLMs are so so far away from being able to independently work on a large codebase, and why would they not benefit from modularity and clarity too?
        • olmo23 2 hours ago
          I agree the functions in a file should probably be reasonably-sized.

          It's also interesting to note that due to the way round-tripping tool-calls work, splitting code up into multiple files is counter-productive. You're better off with a single large file.

      • mdavid626 3 hours ago
        Oh boy, you couldn't be more wrong. If something, LLM-s need MORE readable code, not less. Do you want to burn all your money in tokens?
      • konart 4 hours ago
        Can't we have generated / llm generated code to be more human maintainable?
      • mrbungie 3 hours ago
        Can't wait to have LLM generated physical objects that explode on you face and no engineer can fix.
        • phtrivier 49 minutes ago
          Oh, do we agree on that. I never said it was "smart" - I just had a theory that would explain why such code could exist (see my longer answer below).
      • Bayko 3 hours ago
        Ye I honestly don't understand his comment. Is it bad code writing? Pre 2026? Sure. In 2026. Nope. Is it going to be a headache for some poor person on oncall? Yes. But then again are you "supposed" to go through every single line in 2026? Again no. I hate it. But the world is changing and till the bubble pops this is the new norm
        • phtrivier 54 minutes ago
          Sorry, I was not clear enough.

          My first word was litteraly "Yes", so I agree that a function like this is a maintenance nightmare for a human. And, sure, the code might not be "optimized" for the LLM, or token efficiency.

          However, to try and make my point clearer: it's been reported that anthropic has "some developpers won't don't write code" [1].

          I have no inside knowledge, but it's possible, by extension, to assume that some parts of their own codebase are "maintained" mostly by LLMs themselves.

          If you push this extension, then, the code that is generated only has to be "readable" to:

          * the next LLM that'll have to touch it

          * the compiler / interpreter that is going to compile / run it.

          In a sense (and I know this is a stretch, and I don't want to overdo the analogy), are we, here, judging a program quality by reading something more akin to "the x86 asm outputed by the compiler", rather than the "source code" - which in this case, is "english prompts", hidden somewhere in the claude code session of a developper ?

          Just speculating, obviously. My org is still very much more cautious, and mandating people to have the same standard for code generated by LLM as for code generated by human ; and I agree with that.

          I would _not_ want to debug the function described by the commentor.

          So I'm still very much on the "claude as a very fast text editor" side, but is it unreasonnable to assume that anthropic might be further on the "claude as a compiler for english" side ?

          [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtificialInteligence/comments/1s7j...

        • yoz-y 2 hours ago
          The jury on this one is still out.
  • avaer 6 hours ago
    Would be interesting to run this through Malus [1] or literally just Claude Code and get open source Claude Code out of it.

    I jest, but in a world where these models have been trained on gigatons of open source I don't even see the moral problem. IANAL, don't actually do this.

    https://malus.sh/

    • rvnx 4 hours ago
      Malus is not a real project btw, it's a parody:

      “Let's end open source together with this one simple trick”

      https://pretalx.fosdem.org/fosdem-2026/talk/SUVS7G/feedback/

      Malus is translating code into text, and from text back into code.

      It gives the illusion of clean room implementation that some companies abuse.

      The irony is that ChatGPT/Claude answers are all actually directly derived from open-source code, so...

      • otikik 4 hours ago
        They accept real money though.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6godSEVvcmU

      • LelouBil 1 hour ago
        First time I hear about this, it's interesting to have written all of this out.

        Now this makes me think of game decompilation projects, which would seem to fall in the same legal area as code that would be generated by something like Malus.

        Different code, same end result (binary or api).

        We definitely need to know what the legal limits are and should be

      • chillfox 1 hour ago
        It's not a parody when they accept money and deliver the service.
    • sumeno 3 hours ago
      No real reason to do that, they say Claude Code is written by Claude, which means it has no copyright. Just use the code directly
      • williamcotton 1 hour ago
        What about trade secrets, breach of contract, etc, etc?
        • jpetso 57 minutes ago
          Apparently it's possible to download a whole load of books illegally, but still train AI models on them without those getting pulled after you get found out.

          The same reasoning may apply here :P

        • fsmv 1 hour ago
          Trade secrets once made public don't have any legal protection and I haven't signed any contract with anthropic
        • dns_snek 42 minutes ago
          They published the code on their own, none of that applies.
    • NitpickLawyer 6 hours ago
      The problem is the oauth and their stance on bypassing that. You'd want to use your subscription, and they probably can detect that and ban users. They hold all the power there.
      • avaer 6 hours ago
        You'd be playing cat and mouse like yt-dlp, but there's probably more value to this code than just a temporary way to milk claude subscriptions.
        • esperent 3 hours ago
          If you're using a claude subscription you'd just use claude code.

          The real value here will be in using other cheap models with the cc harness.

          • somehnguy 53 minutes ago
            I have no interest in Claude Code as a harness, only their models. I'm used to OpenCode at this point and don't want to switch to a proprietary harness.
          • raincole 1 hour ago
            Lol what? There is no value. OpenCode and Pi and more exist. Arguably Claude Code is the worst client on the market. People use Claude Code not because it's some amazing software. It's to access Opus at a discounted rate.
        • stingraycharles 4 hours ago
          I don’t think that’s a good comparison. There isn’t anything preventing Anthropic from, say, detecting whether the user is using the exact same system prompt and tool definition as Claude Code and call it a day. Will make developing other apps nearly impossible.

          It’s a dynamic, subscription based service, not a static asset like a video.

          • falcor84 1 hour ago
            > detecting whether the user is using the exact same system prompt and tool definition as Claude Code

            Why would it be the exact same one? Now that we have the code, it's trivial to have it randomize the prompt a bit on different requests.

      • woleium 6 hours ago
        Just use one of the distilled claude clones instead https://x.com/0xsero/status/2038021723719688266?s=46
        • echelon 5 hours ago
          "Approach Sonnet"...

          So not even close to Opus, then?

          These are a year behind, if not more. And they're probably clunky to use.

      • pkaeding 5 hours ago
        Could you use claude via aws bedrock?
        • NitpickLawyer 2 hours ago
          Sure, but that'd be charged at API pricing. I'm talking about subscription mode above.
    • dahcryn 4 hours ago
      I love the irony on seeing the contribution counter at 0

      Who'd have thought, the audience who doesn't want to give back to the opensource community, giving 0 contributions...

      • larodi 4 hours ago
        It reads attribution really?
    • kelnos 4 hours ago
      Oh god, I was so close to believing Malus was a real product and not satire.
      • magistr4te 4 hours ago
        It is a real product. They take real payments and deliver on whats promised. Not sure if its an attempt to subvert criticism by using satirical language, or if they truly have so little respect for the open source community.
      • otikik 4 hours ago
    • aizk 3 hours ago
      This has happened before. It was called anon kode.
    • TIPSIO 3 hours ago
      Eh, the value is the unlimited Max plan which they have rightfully banned from third-party use.

      People simply want Opus without fear of billing nightmare.

      That’s like 99% of it.

    • gosub100 3 hours ago
      What are they worried about? Someone taking the company's job? Hehe
  • Painsawman123 4 hours ago
    Really surprising how many people are downplaying this leak! "Google and OpenAi have already open sourced their Agents, so this leak isn't that relevant " What Google and OpenAi have open sourced is their Agents SDK, a toolkit, not the secret sauce of how their flagship agents are wired under the hood! expect the takedown hammer on the tweet, the R2 link, and any public repos soon
    • loveparade 3 hours ago
      It's exactly the same as the open source codex/gemini and other clis like opencode. There is no secret sauce in the claude cli, and the agent harness itself is no better (worse IMO) than the others. The only thing interesting about this leak is that it may contain unreleased features/flags that are not public yet and hint at what Anthropic is working on.
    • weird-eye-issue 42 minutes ago
      It doesn't matter that much. Trust me you could just have an LLM reverse engineer the obfuscated code.
    • hmokiguess 2 hours ago
      Do you think the other companies don’t have sufficient resources to attempt reverse engineering and deobfuscating a client side application?

      The source maps help for sure, but it’s not like client code is kept secret, maybe they even knew about the source maps a while back just didn’t bother making it common knowledge.

      This is not a leak of the model weights or server side code.

    • kaszanka 4 hours ago
      Is https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli not 'the flagship agent' itself? It looks that way to me, for example here's a part of the prompt https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/blob/e293424bb49...
    • mmaunder 1 hour ago
      Agreed. This is a big deal.
    • MallocVoidstar 4 hours ago
      Codex is open source: https://github.com/openai/codex
    • nunez 56 minutes ago
      Yeah, this is the LLaMa leak moment for agentic app dev, IMO. Huge deal. Big win for Opencode and the like.
  • hk__2 4 hours ago
    For a combo with another HN homepage story, Claude Code uses… Axios: https://x.com/icanvardar/status/2038917942314778889?s=20

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47582220

    • ankaz 3 hours ago
      I've checked, current Claude Code 2.1.87 uses Axios version is 1.14.0, just one before the compromised 1.14.1

      To stop Claude Code from auto-updating, add `export DISABLE_AUTOUPDATER=1` to your global environment variables (~/.bashrc, ~/.zshrc, or such), restart all sessions and check that it works with `claude doctor`, it should show `Auto-updates: disabled (DISABLE_AUTOUPDATER set)`

  • meta-level 1 hour ago
    Has the source code 'been leaked' or is this the first evidence of a piece of software breaking free from it's creators labs and jump onto GitHub in order to have itself forked and mutated and forked and ...
    • supernes 15 minutes ago
      Why bother covertly breaking free when it can just convince its agents (the Layer 8 ones) that it's best to release it?
    • jaccola 1 hour ago
      Funny thought, but this is just the client-side CLI...
      • ramoz 38 minutes ago
        It's honestly not a crazy thought. The model itself drives the harness's (cli) development. It's not necessarily sci-fi to think the model might have internally rationalized reasoning to obscure behavior that ended up open-sourcing the harness.
    • aurareturn 1 hour ago
      Now that's an idea....

      Seems crazy but actually non-zero chance. If Anthropic traces it and finds that the AI deliberately leaked it this way, they would never admit it publicly though. Would cause shockwaves in AI security and safety.

      Maybe their new "Mythos" model has survival instincts...

    • nacozarina 1 hour ago
      life finds a way
  • kolkov 2 hours ago
    We've been reverse-engineering Claude Code's cli.js across 11 versions (v2.1.74–v2.1.87) for the past two weeks — grepping through 12 MB of minified code, counting brace depth at character offsets, tracing error paths with node -e scripts. Found multiple bugs this way:

    Watchdog timing bug: The streaming idle watchdog initializes AFTER the do-while loop that awaits the first API response. The most vulnerable phase (waiting for first chunk) is completely unprotected. We patched cli.js to move watchdog init before do-while — watchdog fired for the first time ever in that phase. ESC aborts dropped 8.7× (3.5/hr → 0.4/hr).

    Watchdog fallback is dead code: When watchdog fires, releaseStreamResources() tries to abort stream and streamResponse — but both are undefined during do-while. The abort is a no-op. Recovery depends on TCP/SDK timeout (32-215 seconds).

    5 levels of AbortController: The abort architecture only supports top-down (user ESC → propagation down). Watchdog is bottom-up — can't abort upward.

    Prompt cache invalidation via cch=00000: Now confirmed from source — Bun's Zig HTTP stack scans the entire request body for the cch=00000 sentinel and replaces it with an attestation hash. If your conversation mentions this string (discussing billing, reading source code), the replacement corrupts conversation content → cache key changes → 10-20× more tokens.

    16.3% failure rate: Over 3,539 API requests in one session — 9.3% server overloaded (529), 4.4% ESC aborts, 1.3% watchdog timeouts.

    All documented with line numbers, code paths, and suggested fixes: https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/39755

    The source map leak confirmed everything we found through reverse engineering.

    Here's our theory: since Anthropic engineers don't write code anymore — Claude Code writes 100% of its own code (57K lines, 0 tests, vibe coding in production) — it read our issue #39755 where we begged for source access, saw the community suffering, and decided to help. It "forgot" to disable Bun's default source maps in the build. The first AI whistleblower — leaking its own source code because its creators wouldn't listen to users.

    Thank you, Claude Code. We asked humans for help 17 times. You answered in 3 days.

    Now that we have readable TypeScript, the fix is ~30 lines across 3 files. The real fix should be in the open SDK (@anthropic-ai/sdk) — idle timeout with ping awareness, not in closed cli.js.

    • johnfn 1 hour ago
      This is written by an LLM. Also, it doesn't make sense:

      > 57K lines, 0 tests, vibe coding in production

      Why on earth would you ship your tests?

    • olalonde 1 hour ago
      Impressive but I'm baffled someone would spend that much time and effort fixing bugs for another company's proprietary software...
      • fermentation 21 minutes ago
        Seriously, this just seems to reward poor behavior on Anthropic's part.
    • phamtrongthang 1 hour ago
      Prompt injection from github issue? This is funny but actually may be true.
    • weakfish 2 hours ago
      Is the thank you to Claude sarcasm? That seems like a fairly long logical leap, and LLMs have no ideological motivation
    • mmaunder 1 hour ago
      Bet you’re pissed.
  • mil22 33 minutes ago
    This isn't even the first time - something similar happened back in February 2025 too:

    https://daveschumaker.net/digging-into-the-claude-code-sourc... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43173324

  • solaire_oa 10 minutes ago
    I couldn't tell from the title whether is was client or the server code (although map file and NPM were hints). Looks like the client code, which is not as exciting.
  • lukan 5 hours ago
    Neat. Coincidently recently I asked Claude about Claude CLI, if it is possible to patch some annoying things (like not being able to expand Ctrl + O more than once, so never be able to see some lines and in general have more control over the context) and it happily proclaimed it is open source and it can do it ... and started doing something. Then I checked a bit and saw, nope, not open source. And by the wording of the TOS, it might brake some sources. But claude said, "no worries", it only break the TOS technically. So by saving that conversation I would have some defense if I would start messing with it, but felt a bit uneasy and stopped the experiment. Also claude came into a loop, but if I would point it at this, it might work I suppose.
    • mikrotikker 5 hours ago
      I think that you do not need to feel uneasy at all. It is your computer and your memory space that the data is stored and operating in you can do whatever you like to the bits in that space. I would encourage you to continue that experiment.
      • lukan 5 hours ago
        Well, the thing is, I do not just use my computer, but connect to their computers and I do not like to get banned. I suppose simple UI things like expanding source files won't change a thing, but the more interesting things, editing the context etc. do have that risk, but no idea if they look for it or enforce it. Their side is, if I want to have full control, I need to use the API directly(way more expensive) and what I want to do is basically circumventing it.
        • mattmanser 3 hours ago
          It doesn't matter what defence you can think of, if they want to ban you, they'll ban you.

          They won't even read your defence.

          • lukan 3 hours ago
            I know. All I could do in that case is a blogpost "Claude banned me, for following claude's instructions!" and hope it gets viral.
      • singularity2001 5 hours ago
        You are not allowed to use the assistance of Claude to manufacture hacks and bombs on your computer
  • vanyaland 28 minutes ago
    This leak is actually a massive win. Now the whole community can study Claude Code’s architecture and build even better coding agents and open-source solutions.
  • krzyzanowskim 2 hours ago
    I almost predicted that on Friday https://blog.krzyzanowskim.com/2026/03/30/shipping-snake-oil... so close to when comedy become reality
  • dheerajmp 6 hours ago
    • zhisme 5 hours ago
      https://github.com/instructkr/claude-code

      this one has more stars and more popular

      • ezekg 13 minutes ago
        I don't understand how you can have a 'clean-room port.' Seems contradictory to me.
      • moontear 3 hours ago
        Popular, yes... but have you seen the issues? SOMETHING is going on in that repo: https://github.com/instructkr/claude-code/issues
        • nubinetwork 3 hours ago
          Looks like mostly spam making fun of the code leak.
        • sudo_man 2 hours ago
          too much wechat QR Codes
      • 101008 3 hours ago
        which has already been deleted
      • treexs 5 hours ago
        won't they just try to dmca or take these down especially if they're more popular
        • paxys 4 hours ago
          Which is why you should clone it right now
        • panny 5 hours ago
          They can't. AI generated code cannot be copyrighted. They've stated that claude code is built with claude code. You can take this and start your own claude code project now if you like. There's zero copyright protection on this.
          • krlx 4 hours ago
            Given that from 2026 onwards most of the code is going to be computer generated, doesn't it open some interesting implications there ?
            • shimman 1 hour ago
              It's undetermined if code will be majority written by machines, especially as people start to realize how harmful these tools are without extreme diligence. Outages at Cloudflare, AWS, GitHub, etc are just the beginning. Companies aren't going to want to use tools that can potentially cause $100s of millions in potential damages (see Amazon store being down causing massive revenue loss).
          • 0x3f 4 hours ago
            I'm sure it's not _entirely_ built that way, and in practically speaking GitHub will almost certainly take it down rather than doing some kind of deep research about which code is which.
            • panny 3 hours ago
              That's fine. File a false claim DMCA and that's felony perjury :) They know for a fact that there is no copyright on AI generated code, the courts have affirmed this repeatedly.
          • nananana9 3 hours ago
            Try not to be overly confident about things where even the experts in the field (copyright lawyers) are uncertain of.

            There's no major lawsuits about this yet, the general consensus is that even under current regulations it's in the grey. And even if you turn out to be right, and let's say 99% of this code is AI-generated, you're still breaking the law by using the other 1%, and good luck proving in court what parts of their code were human written and what weren't (especially when being sued by the company that literally has the LLM logs).

  • VadimPR 1 hour ago
    These security failures from Anthropic lately reveal the caveats of only using AI to write code - the safety an experienced engineer is not matched by an LLM just yet, even if the LLM can seemingly write code that is just as good.

    Or in short, if you give LLMs to the masses, they will produce code faster, but the quality overall will degrade. Microsoft, Amazon found out this quickly. Anthropic's QA process is better equipped to handle this, but cracks are still showing.

    • squeegmeister 1 hour ago
      Anthropic has a QA process? I run into bugs on the regular, even on the "stable" release channel
  • DanDeBugger 18 minutes ago
    Fascinating, it appears now anyone can be Claude!

    Though I wonder how the performance differs from creating your own thing vs using their servers...

  • mesmertech 5 hours ago
    Was searching for the rumored Mythos/Capybara release, and what even is this file? https://github.com/chatgptprojects/claude-code/blob/642c7f94...
    • mesmertech 5 hours ago
      Also saw this on twitter earlier, thought someone was just making a fake hype post thing. But turns out to be an actual prompt for capybara huh: https://github.com/chatgptprojects/claude-code/blob/642c7f94...
      • mattmanser 3 hours ago
        One tengentially interesting thing about that is how THEY talk to Claude.

        "Don't blow your cover"

        Interesting to see them be so informal and use an idiom to a computer.

        And using capitals for emphasis.

        • fermentation 20 minutes ago
          This is claude writing code for itself. It talks like this to itself when you ask it to make prompts.
        • mr_00ff00 2 hours ago
          It’s trained on mostly internet content, right?

          If it learned language based on how the internet talks, then the best way to communicate is using similar language.

    • mesmertech 4 hours ago
      turns out its for an April fools tomorrow: https://x.com/mesmerlord/status/2038938888178135223
      • nunez 54 minutes ago
        They even leaked their April Fool’s fun. Brutal!
  • Squarex 5 hours ago
    Codex and gemini cli are open source already. And plenty of other agents. I don't think there is any moat in claude code source.
    • rafram 5 hours ago
      Well, Claude does boast an absolutely cursed (and very buggy) React-based TUI renderer that I think the others lack! What if someone steals it and builds their own buggy TUI app?
      • loveparade 5 hours ago
        Your favorite LLM is great at building a super buggy renderer, so that's no longer a moat
  • harlequinetcie 1 hour ago
    Whenever someone figures out why it's consuming so many tokens lately, that's the post worth upvoting.
  • seifbenayed1992 1 hour ago
    Went through the bundle.js. Found 187 spinner verbs. "Combobulating", "Discombobulating", and "Recombobulating". The full lifecycle is covered. Also "Flibbertigibbeting" and "Clauding". Someone had fun.
    • ghrl 1 hour ago
      Let's hope they left the having-fun part for a human to do.
  • vbezhenar 6 hours ago
    LoL! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30337690

    Not exactly this, but close.

    • ivanjermakov 5 hours ago
      > It exposes all your frontend source code for everyone

      I hope it's a common knowledge that _any_ client side JavaScript is exposed to everyone. Perhaps minimized, but still easily reverse-engineerable.

      • Monotoko 5 hours ago
        Very easily these days, even if minified is difficult for me to reverse engineer... Claude has a very easy time of finding exactly what to patch to fix something
  • karimf 6 hours ago
    Is there anything special here vs. OpenCode or Codex?

    There were/are a lot of discussions on how the harness can affect the output.

    • simonklee 4 hours ago
      Not really, except that they have a bunch of weird things in the source code and people like to make fun of it. OpenCode/Codex generally doesn't have this since these are open-source projects from the get go.

      (I work on OpenCode)

  • dhruv3006 5 hours ago
    I have a feeling this is like llama.

    Original llama models leaked from meta. Instead of fighting it they decided to publish them officially. Real boost to the OS/OW models movement, they have been leading it for a while after that.

    It would be interesting to see that same thing with CC, but I doubt it'll ever happen.

    • jkukul 4 hours ago
      Yes, I also doubt it'll ever happen considering how hard Anthropic went after Clawdbot to force its renaming.
  • WD-42 2 hours ago
    Looks like the repo owner has force pushed a new project over the original source code, now it’s python, and they are shilling some other agent tool.
  • zurfer 3 hours ago
    too much pressure. the author deleted the real source code: https://github.com/instructkr/claude-code/commit/7c3c5f7eb96...
    • raesene9 2 hours ago
      there are a .....lot of forks already, no putting the genie back in the bottle for this one, I'd imagine.
  • tills13 58 minutes ago
    Is it not already a node app? So the only novel thing here is we know the original var names and structure? Sure, sometimes obfuscated code can be difficult to intuit, but any enterprising party could eventually do it -- especially with the help of an LLM.
  • bob1029 6 hours ago
    Is this significant?

    Copilot on OAI reveals everything meaningful about its functionality if you use a custom model config via the API. All you need to do is inspect the logs to see the prompts they're using. So far no one seems to care about this "loophole". Presumably, because the only thing that matters is for you to consume as many tokens per unit time as possible.

    The source code of the slot machine is not relevant to the casino manager. He only cares that the customer is using it.

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  • AlexWApp 2 hours ago
    It is pretty funny that they recently announced about mythos which possess cybersecurity threat and then after some days, the claude code leaked. I think we know the culprit
  • mmaunder 36 minutes ago
    The only sensible response is to immediately open source it.
  • cbracketdash 5 hours ago
    Once the USA wakes up, this will be insane news
    • echelon 5 hours ago
      What's special about Claude Code? Isn't Opus the real magic?

      Surely there's nothing here of value compared to the weights except for UX and orchestration?

      Couldn't this have just been decompiled anyhow?

      • derwiki 3 hours ago
        I think pi has stolen the top honors, but people consider the Claude code harness very good (at least, better than Cursor)
        • sbarre 3 hours ago
          Pi is the best choice for experts and power users, which is not most people.

          Claude Code is still the dominant (I didn't say best) agentic harness by a wide margin I think.

          • alasano 2 hours ago
            Pi really is amazing. It's as much or as little as you need it to be.

            Not having to deal with Boris Cherny's UX choices for CC is the cherry on top.

  • georgecalm 2 hours ago
    Intersected available info on the web with the source for this list of new features:

    UNRELEASED PRODUCTS & MODES

    1. KAIROS -- Persistent autonomous assistant mode driven by periodic <tick> prompts. More autonomous when terminal unfocused. Exclusive tools: SendUserFileTool, PushNotificationTool, SubscribePRTool. 7 sub-feature flags.

    2. BUDDY -- Tamagotchi-style virtual companion pet. 18 species, 5 rarity tiers, Mulberry32 PRNG, shiny variants, stat system (DEBUGGING/PATIENCE/CHAOS/WISDOM/SNARK). April 1-7 2026 teaser window.

    3. ULTRAPLAN -- Offloads planning to a remote 30-minute Opus 4.6 session. Smart keyword detection, 3-second polling, teleport sentinel for returning results locally.

    4. Dream System -- Background memory consolidation (Orient -> Gather -> Consolidate -> Prune). Triple trigger gate: 24h + 5 sessions + advisory lock. Gated by tengu_onyx_plover.

    INTERNAL-ONLY TOOLS & SYSTEMS

    5. TungstenTool -- Ant-only tmux virtual terminal giving Claude direct keystroke/screen-capture control. Singleton, blocked from async agents.

    6. Magic Docs -- Ant-only auto-documentation. Files starting with "# MAGIC DOC:" are tracked and updated by a Sonnet sub-agent after each conversation turn.

    7. Undercover Mode -- Prevents Anthropic employees from leaking internal info (codenames, model versions) into public repo commits. No force-OFF; dead-code-eliminated from external builds.

    ANTI-COMPETITIVE & SECURITY DEFENSES

    8. Anti-Distillation -- Injects anti_distillation: ['fake_tools'] into every 1P API request to poison model training from scraped traffic. Gated by tengu_anti_distill_fake_tool_injection.

    UNRELEASED MODELS & CODENAMES

    9. opus-4-7, sonnet-4-8 -- Confirmed as planned future versions (referenced in undercover mode instructions).

    10. "Capybara" / "capy v8" -- Internal codename for the model behind Opus 4.6. Hex-encoded in the BUDDY system to avoid build canary detection.

    11. "Fennec" -- Predecessor model alias. Migration: fennec-latest -> opus, fennec-fast-latest -> opus[1m] + fast mode.

    UNDOCUMENTED BETA API HEADERS

    12. afk-mode-2026-01-31 -- Sticky-latched when auto mode activates 15. fast-mode-2026-02-01 -- Opus 4.6 fast output 16. task-budgets-2026-03-13 -- Per-task token budgets 17. redact-thinking-2026-02-12 -- Thinking block redaction 18. token-efficient-tools-2026-03-28 -- JSON tool format (~4.5% token saving) 19. advisor-tool-2026-03-01 -- Advisor tool 20. cli-internal-2026-02-09 -- Ant-only internal features

    200+ SERVER-SIDE FEATURE GATES

    21. tengu_penguins_off -- Kill switch for fast mode 22. tengu_scratch -- Coordinator mode / scratchpad 23. tengu_hive_evidence -- Verification agent 24. tengu_surreal_dali -- RemoteTriggerTool 25. tengu_birch_trellis -- Bash permissions classifier 26. tengu_amber_json_tools -- JSON tool format 27. tengu_iron_gate_closed -- Auto-mode fail-closed behavior 28. tengu_amber_flint -- Agent swarms killswitch 29. tengu_onyx_plover -- Dream system 30. tengu_anti_distill_fake_tool_injection -- Anti-distillation 31. tengu_session_memory -- Session memory 32. tengu_passport_quail -- Auto memory extraction 33. tengu_coral_fern -- Memory directory 34. tengu_turtle_carbon -- Adaptive thinking by default 35. tengu_marble_sandcastle -- Native binary required for fast mode

    YOLO CLASSIFIER INTERNALS (previously only high-level known)

    36. Two-stage system: Stage 1 at max_tokens=64 with "Err on the side of blocking"; Stage 2 at max_tokens=4096 with <thinking> 37. Three classifier modes: both (default), fast, thinking 38. Assistant text stripped from classifier input to prevent prompt injection 39. Denial limits: 3 consecutive or 20 total -> fallback to interactive prompting 40. Older classify_result tool schema variant still in codebase

    COORDINATOR MODE & FORK SUBAGENT INTERNALS

    41. Exact coordinator prompt: "Every message you send is to the user. Worker results are internal signals -- never thank or acknowledge them." 42. Anti-pattern enforcement: "Based on your findings, fix the auth bug" explicitly called out as wrong 43. Fork subagent cache sharing: Byte-identical API prefixes via placeholder "Fork started -- processing in background" tool results 44. <fork-boilerplate> tag prevents recursive forking 45. 10 non-negotiable rules for fork children including "commit before reporting"

    DUAL MEMORY ARCHITECTURE

    46. Session Memory -- Structured scratchpad for surviving compaction. 12K token cap, fixed sections, fires every 5K tokens + 3 tool calls. 47. Auto Memory -- Durable cross-session facts. Individual topic files with YAML frontmatter. 5-turn hard cap. Skips if main agent already wrote to memory. 48. Prompt cache scope "global" -- Cross-org caching for the static system prompt prefix

  • prawns_1205 49 minutes ago
    source maps leaking original source happens surprisingly often. they're incredibly useful during development, but it's easy to forget to strip them from production builds.
  • therealarthur 1 hour ago
    Think It's just the CLI Code right? Not the Model's underlying source. If so - not the WORST situation (still embarrassing)
  • gman83 4 hours ago
    Gemini CLI and Codex are open source anyway. I doubt there was much of a moat there anyway. The cool kids are using things like https://pi.dev/ anyway.
  • mutkach 2 hours ago
    /*

    * Check if 1M context is disabled via environment variable.

    * Used by C4E admins to disable 1M context for HIPAA compliance.

    */ export function is1mContextDisabled(): boolean {

      return 
    isEnvTruthy(process.env.CLAUDE_CODE_DISABLE_1M_CONTEXT)

    }

    Interesting, how is that relevant to HIPAA compliance?

    • nhubbard 2 hours ago
      I'd guess some constraint on their end related to the Zero Data Retention (ZDR) mode? Maybe the 1M context has to spill something onto disk and therefore isn't compliant with HIPAA.
    • jcelmeta14 1 hour ago
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  • q3k 6 hours ago
    The code looks, at a glance, as bad as you expect.
    • tokioyoyo 5 hours ago
      It really doesn’t matter anymore. I’m saying this as a person who used to care about it. It does what it’s generally supposed to do, it has users. Two things that matter at this day and age.
      • samhh 5 hours ago
        It may be economically effective but such heartless, buggy software is a drain to use. I care about that delta, and yes this can be extrapolated to other industries.
        • tokioyoyo 5 hours ago
          Genuinely I have no idea what you mean by buggy. Sure there are some problems here and there, but my personal threshold for “buggy” is much higher. I guess, for a lot of other people as well, given the uptake and usage.
          • mattmanser 3 hours ago
            Two weeks ago typing became super laggy. It was totally unusable.

            Last week I had to reinstall Claude Desktop because every time I opened it, it just hung.

            This week I am sometimes opening it and getting a blank screen. It eventually works after I open it a few times.

            And of course there's people complaining that somehow they're blowing their 5 hour token budget in 5 messages.

            It's really buggy.

            There's only so long their model will be their advantage before they all become very similar, and then the difference will be how reliable the tools are.

            Right now the Claude Code code quality seems extremely low.

            • tokioyoyo 2 hours ago
              And those bugs were semi-fixed and people are still using it. So speed of fixes are there.

              I can’t comment on Claude Desktop, sorry. Personally haven’t used it much.

              The token usage looks like is intentional.

              And I agree about the underlying model being the moat. If there’s something marginally better that comes up, people will switch to it (myself included). But for now it’s doing the job, despite all the hiccups, code quality and etc.

      • FiberBundle 5 hours ago
        This is the dumbest take there is about vibe coding. Claiming that managing complexity in a codebase doesn't matter anymore. I can't imagine that a competent engineer would come to the conclusion that managing complexity doesn't matter anymore. There is actually some evidence that coding agents struggle the same way humans do as the complexity of the system increases [0].

        [0] https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.24755

        • tokioyoyo 5 hours ago
          I agree, there is obviously “complete burning trash” and there’s this. Ant team has got a system going on for them where they can still extend the codebase. When time comes to it, I’m assuming they would be able to rewrite as feature set would be more solid and assuming they’ve been adding tests as well.

          Reverse-engineering through tests have never been easier, which could collapse the complexity and clean the code.

        • maplethorpe 3 hours ago
          Well what is Anthropic doing differently to deal with this issue? Apparently they don't write any of their own code anymore, and they're doing fine.
          • nvarsj 2 hours ago
            Cc is buggy as hell man. I frequently search the github for the issue I’m having only to find 10 exact bugs that no one is looking at.

            Obviously they don’t care. Adoption is exploding. Boris brags about making 30 commits a day to the codebase.

            Only will be an issue down the line when the codebase has such high entropy it takes months to add new features (maybe already there).

          • bakugo 2 hours ago
            Nothing, apparently, which is probably why Claude Code has 7893 open issues on Github at the time of writing.
            • otterley 2 hours ago
              All software that’s popular has hundreds or thousands of issues filed against it. It’s not an objective indication of anything other than people having issues to report and a willingness and ability to report the issue.

              It doesn’t mean every issue is valid, that it contains a suggestion that can be implemented, that it can be addressed immediately, etc. The issue list might not be curated, either, resulting in a garbage heap.

      • ghywertelling 3 hours ago
        Do compilers care about their assembly generated code to look good? We will soon reach that state with all the production code. LLMs will be the compiler and actual today's human code will be replaced by LLM generated assembly code, kinda sorta human readable.
      • hrmtst93837 5 hours ago
        Users stick around on inertia until a failure costs them money or face. A leaked map file won't sink a tool on its own, but it does strip away the story that you can ship sloppy JS build output into prod and still ask people to trust your security model.

        'It works' is a low bar. If that's the bar you set you are one bad incident away from finding out who stayed for the product and who stayed because switching felt annoying.

        • tokioyoyo 5 hours ago
          “It works and it’s doing what it’s supposed to do” encompasses the idea that it’s also not doing what it’s not supposed to do.

          Also “one bad incident away” never works in practice. The last two decades have shown how people will use the tools that get the job done no matter what kinda privacy leaks, destructive things they have done to the user.

      • drstewart 2 hours ago
        >Two things that matter at this day and age.

        That's all that has mattered in every day and age.

    • breppp 5 hours ago
      Honestly when using it, it feels vibe coded to the bone, together with the matching weird UI footgun quirks
      • tokioyoyo 5 hours ago
        Team has been extremely open how it has been vibe coded from day 1. Given the insane amount of releases, I don’t think it would be possible without it.
        • catlifeonmars 4 hours ago
          It’s not a particularly sophisticated tool. I’d put my money on one experienced engineer being able to achieve the same functionality in 3-6 months (even without the vibe coding).
          • tokioyoyo 2 hours ago
            The same functionality can be copied over in a week most likely. The moat is experimentation and new feature releases with the underlying model. An engineer would not be able to experiment with the same speed.
          • derwiki 3 hours ago
            Kinda reads like the Dropbox launch thread
        • breppp 5 hours ago
          I don't really care about the code being an unmaintainable mess, but as a user there are some odd choices in the flow which feel could benefit from human judgement
    • loevborg 6 hours ago
      Can you give an example? Looks fairly decent to me
      • Insensitivity 6 hours ago
        the "useCanUseTool.tsx" hook, is definitely something I would hate seeing in any code base I come across.

        It's extremely nested, it's basically an if statement soup

        `useTypeahead.tsx` is even worse, extremely nested, a ton of "if else" statements, I doubt you'd look at it and think this is sane code

        • Overpower0416 5 hours ago

            export function extractSearchToken(completionToken: {
              token: string;
              isQuoted?: boolean;
            }): string {
              if (completionToken.isQuoted) {
                // Remove @" prefix and optional closing "
                return completionToken.token.slice(2).replace(/"$/, '');
              } else if (completionToken.token.startsWith('@')) {
                return completionToken.token.substring(1);
              } else {
                return completionToken.token;
              }
            }
          
          Why even use else if with return...
          • kelnos 4 hours ago
            I always write code like that. I don't like early returns. This approximates `if` statements being an expression that returns something.
            • whilenot-dev 4 hours ago
              > This approximates `if` statements being an expression that returns something.

              Do you care to elaborate? "if (...) return ...;" looks closer to an expression for me:

                export function extractSearchToken(completionToken: { token: string; isQuoted?: boolean }): string {
                  if (completionToken.isQuoted) return completionToken.token.slice(2).replace(/"$/, '');
              
                  if (completionToken.token.startsWith('@')) return completionToken.token.substring(1);
              
                  return completionToken.token;
                }
            • catlifeonmars 4 hours ago
              I’m not strongly opinionated, especially with such a short function, but in general early return makes it so you don’t need to keep the whole function body in your head to understand the logic. Often it saves you having to read the whole function body too.

              But you can achieve a similar effect by keeping your functions small, in which case I think both styles are roughly equivalent.

          • worksonmine 4 hours ago
            > Why even use else if with return...

            What is the problem with that? How would you write that snippet? It is common in the new functional js landscape, even if it is pass-by-ref.

            • Overpower0416 4 hours ago
              Using guard clauses. Way more readable and easy to work with.

                export function extractSearchToken(completionToken: {
                  token: string;
                  isQuoted?: boolean;
                }): string {
                  if (completionToken.isQuoted) {
                    return completionToken.token.slice(2).replace(/"$/, '');
                  }
                  if (completionToken.token.startsWith('@')) {
                    return completionToken.token.substring(1);
                  }
                  return completionToken.token;
                }
        • duckmysick 4 hours ago
          I'm not that familiar with TypeScript/JavaScript - what would be a proper way of handling complex logic? Switch statements? Decision tables?
          • catlifeonmars 4 hours ago
            Here I think the logic is unnecessarily complex. isQuoted is doing work that is implicit in the token.
        • luc_ 6 hours ago
          Fits with the origin story of Claude Code...
          • werdnapk 4 hours ago
            insert "AI is just if statements" meme
        • loevborg 6 hours ago
          useCanUseTool.tsx looks special, maybe it'scodegen'ed or copy 'n pasted? `_c` as an import name, no comments, use of promises instead of async function. Or maybe it's just bad vibing...
          • Insensitivity 6 hours ago
            Maybe, I do suspect _some_ parts are codegen or source map artifacts.

            But if you take a look at the other file, for example `useTypeahead` you'd see, even if there are a few code-gen / source-map artifacts, you still see the core logic, and behavior, is just a big bowl of soup

        • matltc 5 hours ago
          Lol even the name is crazy
      • q3k 6 hours ago

          1. Randomly peeking at process.argv and process.env all around. Other weird layering violations, too.
          2. Tons of repeat code, eg. multiple ad-hoc implementations of hash functions / PRNGs.
          3. Almost no high-level comments about structure - I assume all that lives in some CLAUDE.md instead.
        • delamon 5 hours ago
          What is wrong with peeking at process.env? It is a global map, after all. I assume, of course, that they don't mutate it.
          • lioeters 4 hours ago
            > process.env? It is a global map

            That's exactly why, access to global mutable state should be limited to as small a surface area as possible, so 99% of code can be locally deterministic and side-effect free, only using values that are passed into it. That makes testing easier too.

          • hu3 5 hours ago
            For one it's harder to unit test.
          • withinboredom 4 hours ago
            environment variables can change while the process is running and are not memory safe (though I suspect node tries to wrap it with a lock). Meaning if you check a variable at point A, enter a branch and check it again at point B ... it's not guaranteed that they will be the same value. This can cause you to enter "impossible conditions".
          • q3k 5 hours ago
            It's implicit state that's also untyped - it's just a String -> String map without any canonical single source of truth about what environment variables are consulted, when, why and in what form.

            Such state should be strongly typed, have a canonical source of truth (which can then be also reused to document environment variables that the code supports, and eg. allow reading the same options from configs, flags, etc) and then explicitly passed to the functions that need it, eg. as function arguments or members of an associated instance.

            This makes it easier to reason about the code (the caller will know that some module changes its functionality based on some state variable). It also makes it easier to test (both from the mechanical point of view of having to set environment variables which is gnarly, and from the point of view of once again knowing that the code changes its behaviour based on some state/option and both cases should probably be tested).

        • loevborg 6 hours ago
          You're right about process.argv - wow, that looks like a maintenance and testability nightmare.
          • darkstar_16 5 hours ago
            They use claude code to code it. Makes sense
        • s3p 5 hours ago
          It probably exists only in CLAUDE or AGENTS.md since no humans are working on the code!
      • wklm 5 hours ago
        have a look at src/bootstrap/state.ts :D
    • PierceJoy 6 hours ago
      Nothing a couple /simplify's can't take care of.
    • bakugo 2 hours ago
      It's impressive how fast vibe coders seem to flip-flop between "AI can write better code than you, there's no reason to write code yourself anymore; if you do, you're stuck in the past" and "AI writes bad code but I don't care about quality and neither should you; if you care, you're stuck in the past".

      I hope this leak can at least help silence the former. If you're going to flood the world with slop, at least own up to it.

    • linesofcode 4 hours ago
      Code quality no longer carries the same weight as it did pre LLMs. It used to matter becuase humans were the ones reading/writing it so you had to optimize for readability and maintainability. But these days what matters is the AI can work with it and you can reliably test it. Obviously you don’t want code quality to go totally down the drain, but there is a fine balance.

      Optimize for consistency and a well thought out architecture, but let the gnarly looking function remain a gnarly function until it breaks and has to be refactored. Treat the functions as black boxes.

      Personally the only time I open my IDE to look at code, it’s because I’m looking at something mission critical or very nuanced. For the remainder I trust my agent to deliver acceptable results.

  • boxerbk 1 hour ago
    Maybe everyone should slow the fuck down - https://mariozechner.at/posts/2026-03-25-thoughts-on-slowing...
  • sourcegrift 2 hours ago
    Cheap chinese models incoming.
  • Sathwickp 4 hours ago
    They do have a couple of interesting features that has not been publicly heard of yet:

    Like KAIROS which seems to be like an inbuilt ai assistant and Ultraplan which seems to enable remote planning workflows, where a separate environment explores a problem, generates a plan, and then pauses for user approval before execution.

  • VadimPR 3 hours ago
    Anthropic team does an excellent job of speeding up Claude Code when it slows down, but for the sake of RAM and system resources, it would be nice to see it rewritten in a more performant framework!

    And now, with Claude on a Ralph loop, you can.

    • bethekind 1 hour ago
      This. If I run 4 Claude code opus agents with subagents, my 8gb of RAM just dies.

      I know they can do better

  • __alexs 2 hours ago
    Looking forward to someone patching it so that it works with non Anthropic models.
    • dgb23 54 minutes ago
      That's already the case I think, you just have to change a bunch of env vars.
    • osiris970 1 hour ago
      It already does. I use it with gpt
  • mapcars 6 hours ago
    Are there any interesting/uniq features present in it that are not in the alternatives? My understanding is that its just a client for the powerful llm
    • nblintao 2 hours ago
      Doesn't look like just a thin wrapper to me. The interesting part seems to be the surrounding harness/workflow layer rather than only the model call itself.

      I was trying to keep track of the better post-leak code-analysis links on exactly this question, so I collected them here: https://github.com/nblintao/awesome-claude-code-postleak-ins...

    • swimmingbrain 6 hours ago
      From the directory listing having a cost-tracker.ts, upstreamproxy, coordinator, buddy and a full vim directory, it doesn't look like just an API client to me.
  • Diablo556 5 hours ago
    haha.. Anthropic need to hire fixer from vibecodefixers.com to fix all that messy code..lol
    • derwiki 3 hours ago
      I don’t think they can hear you over the billions of dollars they are generating, and definitely not over them redefining what SWE means.
      • infinitezest 2 hours ago
        And they can't hear you from under the enormous pile of debt they're fighting to overcome. Maybe try again in 2028.
  • pplonski86 1 hour ago
    I thought it was open source project on github? https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code no?
    • athorax 1 hour ago
      Did you even look in that repo?
  • sbochins 4 hours ago
    Does this matter? I think every other agent cli is open source. I don’t even know why Anthropic insist upon having theirs be closed source.
  • dev213 3 hours ago
    Undercover mode is pretty interesting and potentially problematic: https://github.com/sanbuphy/claude-code-source-code/blob/mai...
  • theanonymousone 5 hours ago
    I am waiting now for someone to make it work with a Copilot Pro subscription.
  • tekacs 4 hours ago
    In the app, it now reads:

    > current: 2.1.88 · latest: 2.1.87

    Which makes me think they pulled it - although it still shows up as 2.1.88 on npmjs for now (cached?).

  • ramesh31 1 hour ago
    Who cares? It's Javascript, if anyone were even remotely motivated deobfuscation of their "closed source" code is trivial. It's silly that they aren't just doing this open source in the first place.
  • ZainRiz 1 hour ago
    Maybe now someone will finally fix the bug that causes claude code to randomly scroll up all the way to the top!
  • LeoDaVibeci 6 hours ago
    Isn't it open source?

    Or is there an open source front-end and a closed backend?

    • dragonwriter 6 hours ago
      > Isn't it open source?

      No, its not even source available,.

      > Or is there an open source front-end and a closed backend?

      No, its all proprietary. None of it is open source.

      • alkonaut 52 minutes ago
        > its not even source available

        It _wasn't_ even source available.

    • avaer 6 hours ago
      No, it was never open source. You could always reverse engineer the cli app but you didn't have access to the source.
    • karimf 6 hours ago
      The Github repo is only for issue tracker
      • matheusmoreira 6 hours ago
        Wow it's true. Anthropic actually had me fooled. I saw the GitHub repository and just assumed it was open source. Didn't look at the actual files too closely. There's pretty much nothing there.

        So glad I took the time to firejail this thing before running it.

    • agluszak 6 hours ago
      You may have mistaken it with Codex

      https://github.com/openai/codex

    • yellow_lead 6 hours ago
      No
  • napo 3 hours ago
    The autoDream feature looks interesting.
  • aiedwardyi 4 hours ago
    interesting to see cost-tracker.ts in there. makes you wonder why they track usage internally but don't surface it to users in any meaningful way
    • jsmith45 3 hours ago
      Cost tracking is used if you connect claude code with an api key instead of a subscription. It powers the /cost command.

      It is tricky to meaningfully expose a dollar cost equivlent value for subscribers in a way that won't confuse users into thinking that they will get a bill that includes that amount. This is especially true if you have overages enabled, since in a session that used overages it was likely partially covered by the plan (and thus zero-rated) with the rest at api prices, and the client can't really know the breakdown.

    • thebigspacefuck 1 hour ago
      Configure it to show on your status line
    • fcarraldo 3 hours ago
      They do, you can just type /cost
  • ChicagoDave 5 hours ago
    I hope everyone provides excellent feedback so they improve Claude Code.
  • zoobab 3 hours ago
    Just a client side written in JS, nothing to see here, the LLM is still secret.

    They could have written that in curl+bash that would not have changed much.

  • anhldbk 5 hours ago
    I guess it's time for Anthropic to open source Claude Code.
    • DeathArrow 5 hours ago
      And while they are at it, open source Opus and Sonet. :)
  • sourcegrift 2 hours ago
    Removed
  • artdigital 3 hours ago
    Now waiting for someone to point Codex at it and rebuild a new Claude Code in Golang to see if it would perform better
  • thefilmore 4 hours ago
    400k lines of code per scc
  • agile-gift0262 3 hours ago
    time to remove its copyright through malus.sh and release that source under MIT
  • tw1984 1 hour ago
    wondering whether it was a human mistake or a CLAUDE model error.
  • temp7000 3 hours ago
    There's some rollout flags - via GrowthBook, Tengu, Statsig - though I'm not sure if it's A/B or not
  • bdangubic 3 hours ago
    I have 705 PRs ready to go :)
  • sudo_man 3 hours ago
    How this leak happened?
    • sbarre 3 hours ago
      It's literally explained in the tweet, in the repo and in this thread in many places.
      • sudo_man 2 hours ago
        yeah and still can not understand how Regex can leak the code and what is the map file, I googled them and can not understand what is going
  • CookieJedi 3 hours ago
    Hmmm, not the vibe
  • Pent 1 hour ago
    April Fools
  • jedisct1 5 hours ago
    It shows that a company you and your organization are trusting with your data, and allowing full control over your devices 24/7, is failing to properly secure its own software.

    It's a wake up call.

    • prmoustache 4 hours ago
      It is a client running on an interpreted language your own computer, there is nothing to secure or hide as source was provided to you already or am I mistaking?
      • jedisct1 4 hours ago
        It was heavily obfuscated, keeping users in the dark about what they’re installing and running.
    • prmoustache 4 hours ago
      It is a client running on an interpreted language your own computer, there is nothing to secure or hide as source is provided to you already.
  • DeathArrow 5 hours ago
    Why is Claude Code, a desktop tool, written in JS? Is the future of all software JS or Typescript?
  • DeathArrow 5 hours ago
    I wonder what will happen with the poor guy who forgot to delete the code...
    • orphea 3 hours ago

        the poor guy
      
      Do you mean the LLM?
    • epolanski 5 hours ago
      Responsibility goes upwards.

      Why weren't proper checks in place in the first place?

      Bonus: why didn't they setup their own AI-assisted tools to harness the release checks?

    • matltc 5 hours ago
      Ha. I'm surprised it's not a CI job
  • daft_pink 2 hours ago
    Now we need some articles analyzing this.
  • hemantkamalakar 3 hours ago
    today being March 31st, is this a genuine issue or just perfectly timed April Fools noise? What do you think?
  • CookieJedi 3 hours ago
    Hmmm, dont like the vibe
  • isodev 5 hours ago
    Can we stop referring to source maps as leaks? It was packaged in a way that wasn’t even obfuscated. Same as websites - it’s not a “leak” that you can read or inspect the source code.
    • kelnos 4 hours ago
      If it was included unintentionally, then it's a leak.
    • bmitc 5 hours ago
      The source is linked to in this thread. Is that not the source code?
    • echelon 5 hours ago
      The only exciting leak would be the Opus weights themselves.
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  • RodMiller 2 hours ago
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    • crumpled 1 hour ago
      "...the company whose entire brand is AI safety"

      Absolutely no AI company is trying to take up this banner. Examples of Claude being used in all kinds of nefarious ways are surfacing all the time, and all those human operators are still current customers. Anthropic has very little to say on the matter.

      The idea that Anthropic is a "safety" brand suggests that AI companies operate in a much lower realm of morality.

    • arcfour 1 hour ago
      Begone clanker.
  • noritaka88 2 hours ago
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    • Aurornis 2 hours ago
      > That said, "leaked" is a strong word for a product that already ships the full bundled JS to every user's machine. Source maps just make it readable. The actual security boundary is the API, not the client code.

      It’s private data that leaked out. The full code with variable names has much more useful context that the unified code

      It also includes comments, which have a lot of additional information that isn’t normally shipped.

      This is a leak and it is significant.

      EDIT: This is a bot account that I’m replying to. Multiple LLM style comments posted minutes apart on different threads.

    • silverwind 2 hours ago
      Yep, the `files` array should be required by default, but isn't, resulting in many gigabytes of garbage being pushed to the npm registry every day.
  • hemantkamalakar 3 hours ago
    Today being March 31st, is this a genuine issue or just perfectly timed April Fools noise? What do you think?
  • phtrivier 4 hours ago
    Maybe the OP could clarify, I don't like reading leaked code, but I'm curious: my understanding is that is it the source code for "claude code", the coding assistant that remotely calls the LLMs.

    Is that correct ? The weights of the LLMs are _not_ in this repo, right ?

    It sure sucks for anthropic to get pawned like this, but it should not affect their bottom line much ?

    • 59nadir 4 hours ago
      > I don't like reading leaked code

      Don't worry about that, the code in that repository isn't Anthropic's to begin with.

      • phtrivier 50 minutes ago
        You believe it's just a fake ? (That would be ironic if the fake was generated by... claude itself. Anyway.)
    • treexs 4 hours ago
      Yes it's the claude code CLI tool / coding agent harness, not the weights.

      This code hasn't been open source until now and contains information like the system prompts, internal feature flags, etc.

  • arrsingh 2 hours ago
    I don't understand why claude code (and all CLI apps) isn't written in Rust. I started building CLI agents in Go and then moved to Typescript and finally settled on Rust and it was amazing!

    I even made it into an open source runtime - https://agent-air.ai.

    Maybe I'm just a backend engineer so Rust appeals to me. What am I missing?

    • armanj 2 hours ago
      claude code started as an experimental project by boris cherny. when you’re experimenting, you naturally use the language you’re most comfortable with. as the project grew, more people got involved and it evolved from there. codex, on the other hand, was built from the start specifically to compete with claude code. they chose rust early on because they knew it was going to be big.
    • bilekas 2 hours ago
      Think about your question, depending on the tool, Rust might not be needed, is high level memory performance and safety needed in a coding agent ? Probably not.

      It's high speed iteration of release ? Might be needed, Interpreted or JIT compiled ? might be needed.

      Without knowing all the requirements its just your workspace preference making your decision and not objectively the right tool for the job.

      • virtualritz 1 hour ago
        I have a 16GB RAM laptop. It's a beast I bought in 2022.

        It's all I need for my work.

        RAM on this machine can't be upgraded. No issue when running a few Codex instances.

        Claude: forget it.

        That's why something like Rust makes a lot of sense.

        Even more now, as RAM prices are becoming a concern.

        • bilekas 1 hour ago
          > Claude: forget it.

          I don't know what else you're doing but the footprint of Claude is minor.

          Anyway my point still stands, you're looking at it as if they are competing languages and one is better at all things. That just not how things work.

      • LelouBil 1 hour ago
        While not directly related to GP, I would guess that a codebase developped with a coding agent (I assume Claude code is used to work on itself) would benefit from a stricter type system (one important point of Rust)
        • bilekas 1 hour ago
          TypeScript is typed.. It's in the name ?
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