Making MCP cheaper via CLI

(kanyilmaz.me)

225 points | by thellimist 13 hours ago

48 comments

  • _pdp_ 12 hours ago
    There is some important context missing from the article.

    First, MCP tools are sent on every request. If you look at the notion MCP the search tool description is basically a mini tutorial. This is going right into the context window. Given that in most cases MCP tool loading is all or nothing (unless you pre-select the tools by some other means) MCP in general will bloat your context significantly. I think I counted about 20 tools in GitHub Copilot VSCode extension recently. That's a lot!

    Second, MCP tools are not compossible. When I call the notion search tool I get a dump of whatever they decide to return which might be a lot. The model has no means to decide how much data to process. You normally get a JSON data dump with many token-unfriendly data-points like identifiers, urls, etc. The CLI-based approach on the other hand is scriptable. Coding assistant will typically pipe the tool in jq or tail to process the data chunk by chunk because this is how they are trained these days.

    If you want to use MCP in your agent, you need to bring in the MCP model and all of its baggage which is a lot. You need to handle oauth, handle tool loading and selection, reloading, etc.

    The simpler solution is to have a single MCP server handling all of the things at system level and then have a tiny CLI that can call into the tools.

    In the case of mcpshim (which I posted in another comment) the CLI communicates with the sever via a very simple unix socket using simple json. In fact, it is so simple that you can create a bash client in 5 lines of code.

    This method is practically universal because most AI agents these days know how to use SKILLs. So the goal is to have more CLI tools. But instead of writing CLI for every service you can simply pivot on top of their existing MCP.

    This solves the context problem in a very elegant way in my opinion.

    • tymscar 9 hours ago
      So basically the best way to use MCP is not to use it at all and just call the APIs directly or through a CLI. If those dont exist then wrapping the MCP into a CLI is the second best thing.

      Makes you wonder whats the point of MCP

      • miroljub 29 minutes ago
        Exactly. You shouldn't use MCPs unless there is some statefulness / state / session they need to maintain between calls.

        In all other cases, CLI or API calls are superior.

      • ianm218 9 hours ago
        This was my initial understanding but if you want ai agents to do complex multi step workflows I.e. making data pipelines they just do so much better with MCP.

        After I got the MCP working my case the performance difference was dramatic

        • athrowaway3z 25 minutes ago
          Yeah this is just straight up nonsense.

          Its ability to shuffle around data and use bash and do so in interesting ways far outstrips its ability to deal with MCPs.

          Also remember to properly name your cli tools and add a `use <mytool> --help for doing x` in your AGENTS.md, but that is all you need.

          Maybe you're stuck on some bloated frontend harness?

        • eli 7 hours ago
          I have never had a problem using cli tools intead of mcp. If you add a little list of the available tools to the context it's nearly the same thing, though with added benefits of e.g. being able to chain multiple together in one tool call
          • ianm218 6 hours ago
            Not doubting you just sharing my experience - was able to get dramatically better experience for multi step workflows that involve feedback from SQL compilers with MCP. Probably the right harness to get the same performance with the right tools around the API calls but was easier to stop fighting it for me
      • crazylogger 6 hours ago
        Then you inevitably have to leak your API secret to the LLM in order for it to successfully call the APIs.

        MCP is a thin toolcall auth layer that has to be there so that ChatGPT and claude.ai can "connect to your Slack", etc.

        • tymscar 14 minutes ago
          No? You can just have env vars
      • paulddraper 6 hours ago
        MCP is just JSON-RPC plus dynamic OAuth plus some lifecycle things.

        It’s a convention.

        That everyone follows.

    • miki123211 7 hours ago
      I'd add to that that every tool should have --json (and possibly --output-schema flags), where the latter returns a Typescript / Pydantic / whatever type definition, not a bloated, token-inefficient JSON schema. Information that those exist should be centralized in one place.

      This way, agents can either choose to execute tools directly (bringing output into context), or to run them via a script (or just by piping to jq), which allows for precise arithmetic calculations and further context debloating.

    • grogenaut 8 hours ago
      Or write your own MCP server and make lots of little tools that activate on demand or put smarts or a second layer LLM into crafting GQL queries on the fly and reducing the results on the fly. They're kinda trivial to write now.

      I do agree that MCP context management should be better. Amazon kiro took a stab at that with powers

    • sakesun 8 hours ago
      From your description, GraphQL or SQL could be a good solution for AI context as well.
      • cjonas 8 hours ago
        SQL is peak for data retrieval (obviously) but challenging to deploy for multitenant applications where you can't just give the user controlled agent a DB connection. I found it every effective to create a mini paquet "data ponds" on the fly in s3 and allow the agent to query it with duckdb (can be via tool call but better via a code interpreter). Nice thing with this approach is you can add data from any source and the agent can join efficiently.
  • miroljub 25 minutes ago
    In pi coding agent [1] we have the pi-mcp-adapter [2], which provides the best of both worlds.

    Like its name says, it implements an adapter pattern, which enables searching and calling out tools from MCPs without overhead. Works like a charm.

    [1] https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono/ [2] https://github.com/nicobailon/pi-mcp-adapter

  • philfreo 12 hours ago
    Is this article from a while back?

    > Before your agent can do anything useful, it needs to know what tools are available. MCP’s answer is to dump the entire tool catalog into the conversation as JSON Schema. Every tool, every parameter, every option.

    Because this simply isn't true anymore for the best clients, like Claude Code.

    Similar to how Skills were designed[1] to be searchable without dumping everything into context, MCP tools can (and does in Claude Code) work the same way.

    See https://www.anthropic.com/engineering/advanced-tool-use and https://x.com/trq212/status/2011523109871108570 and https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/agents-and-tools/tool-us...

    [1] https://agentskills.io/specification#progressive-disclosure

    • thellimist 11 hours ago
      FYI the blog has direct comparison to Anthropic’s Tool Search.

      Regardless, most MCPs are dumping. I know Cloudflare MCP is amazing but other 1000 useful MCPs are not.

  • aceelric 11 hours ago
    After reading Cloudflare's Code Mode MCP blog post[1] I built CMCP[2] which lets you aggregate all MCP servers behind two mcp tools, search and execute.

    I do understand anthropic's Tool Search helps with mcp bloat, but it's limited only to claude.

    CMCP currently supports codex and claude but PRs are welcome to add more clients.

    [1]https://blog.cloudflare.com/code-mode-mcp/ [2]https://github.com/assimelha/cmcp

    • thellimist 11 hours ago
      did you check the token usage comparison between cmcp and cli?
  • pelcg 12 hours ago
    This looks related to Awesome CLIs/TUIs and terminal trove which has lots both CLI and TUI apps.

    Awesome TUIs: https://github.com/rothgar/awesome-tuis

    Awesome CLIs: https://github.com/agarrharr/awesome-cli-apps

    Terminal Trove: https://terminaltrove.com/

    I guess this is another one shows that the CLI and Unix is coming back in 2026.

    • thellimist 12 hours ago
      I actually want to combine this and CLIHub into a directory where someone can download all the official MCPs or CLIs (or MCP to CLIs) with a single command
  • eggplantiny 9 hours ago
    I'm looking at this from a slightly different level of abstraction.

    The CLI approach definitely has practical benefits for token reduction. Not stuffing the entire schema into the runtime context is a clear win. But my main interest lies less in "token cost" and more in "how we structure the semantic space."

    MCP is fundamentally a tool-level protocol. Existing paradigms like Skills already mitigate context bloat and selection overhead pretty well via tool discovery and progressive disclosure. So framing this purely as "MCP vs CLI" feels more like shifting the execution surface rather than a fundamental architectural shift.

    The direction I'm exploring is a bit different. Instead of treating tools as the primary unit, what if we normalize the semantic primitives above them (e.g., "search," "read," "create")? Services would then just provide a projection of those semantics. This lets you compress the semantic space itself, expose it lazily, and only pull in the concrete tool/CLI/MCP adapters right at execution time.

    You can arguably approximate this with Skills, but the current mental model is still heavily anchored to "tool descriptions"—it doesn't treat normalized semantics as first-class citizens. So while the CLI approach is an interesting optimization, I'm still on the fence about whether it's a real structural paradigm shift beyond just saving tokens.

    Ultimately, shouldn't the core question be less about "how do we expose fewer tools," and more about "how do we layer and compress the semantic space the agent has to navigate?"

    • TeMPOraL 6 hours ago
      shell is already an answer to your questions. Basic shell constructs and well-known commands provide the abstractions you ask about. `cat`, `grep` and pipes and redirects may not be semantically pure, but they're pretty close to universal, are widely used both as tools and as "semantic primitives", and most importantly, LLMs already know how to use them as both.
    • charcircuit 8 hours ago
      >what if we normalize the semantic primitives above them (e.g., "search," "read," "create")?

      Trying to dictate the abstractions that should be used is not bitter lesson pilled.

    • jwpapi 9 hours ago
      ports & adapters :)
      • eggplantiny 9 hours ago
        Haha I agree that my opinion is kind of that But more like ports & adapters for semantic space, not just IO boundaries.

        If we can abstract the tools one layer further for ai, it might reduce the attention it needs to spend navigating them and leave more context window for actual reasoning

  • matheus-rr 4 hours ago
    The context window cost is the real story here. Every MCP tool description gets sent on every request regardless of whether the model needs it. If you have 20 tools loaded, that's potentially thousands of tokens of tool descriptions burned before the model even starts thinking about your actual task.

    CLI tools sidestep this completely because the agent only needs to know the tool exists and what flags it takes. The actual output is piped and processed, not dumped wholesale into context. And you get composability for free - pipe to jq, grep, head, whatever.

    The auth story is where MCP still wins though. If you need a user to connect their Slack or GitHub through a web UI, you need that OAuth dance somewhere. CLI tools assume you already have credentials configured locally, which is fine for developer tooling but doesn't work for consumer-facing AI products.

    For developer workflows specifically, I think the sweet spot is what some people are calling SKILL files - a markdown doc that tells the agent what CLI tools are available and when to use them. Tiny context footprint, full composability, and the agent can read the skill doc once and cache it.

    • jspdown 3 hours ago
      On my personal coding agent I've introduced a setup phase inside skills.

      I distribute my skills with flake.nix and a lock file. This flake installs the required dependencies and set them up. A frontmatter field defines the name of secrets that need to be passed to the flake.

      As it is, it works for me because I trust my skill flakes and skills are static in my system: -I build an agent docker image for the agent in which I inject the skills directory. -Each skill is setup when building the image -Secret are copied before the setup phase and removed right after

      All in all, Nix is quite nice for Skills :)

  • _pdp_ 12 hours ago
    Hehe... nice one. I think we are all thinking the same thing.

    I've also launched https://mcpshim.dev (https://github.com/mcpshim/mcpshim).

    The unix way is the best way.

    • 22c 10 hours ago
      Pretty sure I saw this one a couple of weeks back, or something very similar to it..

      https://github.com/philschmid/mcp-cli

      Edit: Turns out was https://github.com/steipete/mcporter noted elsewhere in the thread, but mcp-cli looks like a very similar thing.

    • thellimist 12 hours ago
      Nice!

      Compared both

      ---

      TL;DR CLIHUB compiles MCP servers into portable, self-contained binaries — think of it like a compiler. Best for distribution, CI, and environments where you can't run a daemon.

      mcpshim is a runtime bridge — think of it like a local proxy. Best for developers juggling many MCP servers locally, especially when paired with LLM agents that benefit from persistent connections and lightweight aliases.

      ---

      https://cdn.zappy.app/b908e63a442179801e406b01cf412433.png (table comparison)

      ---

      • thellimist 12 hours ago
        I was happy with playwright like MCPs that require the daemon so didn't convert them to CLIs.

        My use cases are almost all 3rd party integrations.

        Have you seen any improvements converting on MCPs that require persistency into CLI?

      • _pdp_ 12 hours ago
        Nice. Love it.

        One important aspect of mcpshim which you might want to bring into clihub is the history idea. Imagine if the model wants to know what it did couple of days ago. It will be nice to have an answer for that if you record the tool calls in a file and then allow the agent to query the file.

  • 2001zhaozhao 10 hours ago
    I feel like the permanent fix is for the AI labs to figure out better attention methods that increase context length without extra inference cost, plus deeper discounts (like -99%) for people being able to add system prompts to their accounts that are cached permanently.

    This way you build all your MCPs into the system prompt, save the prompt to the AI provider, then use it without overpaying API costs.

    The current "tools-on-demand" workarounds should be great for infrequent tools but the future will probably bring agents with dozens of tools that need them in context to flexibly many of them in the same context window. So we just need to make the context windows longer and make this capability cheaper to use.

  • foota 8 hours ago
    Does tool calling in general bloat context, or is there something particular about MCP?

    One thing I have read recently is that when you make a tool call it forces the model to go back to the agent. The effect of this is that the agent then has to make another request with all of the prompt (include past messages), these will be "cached" tokens, but they're still expensive. So if you can amortize the tool calls by having the model either do many at once or chaining them with something like bash you'll be better off.

    I suspect this might be why cursor likes writing bash scripts so much, simple shell commands are going to be very token heavy because of the frequency of interrupts.

    • CuriouslyC 7 hours ago
      MCP includes tool definitions in context, whereas models just "know" shell commands and common language tools.
      • foota 1 hour ago
        Hm.. but that's just tool calling, right? MCP is just that there's a lot more tools than normal.
  • red_hare 12 hours ago
    True for coding agents running SotA models where you're the human-in-the-loop approving, less true for your deployed agents running on cheap models that you don't see what's being executed.

    But yeah, a concrete example is playwright-mcp vs playwright-cli: https://testcollab.com/blog/playwright-cli

    • CharlieDigital 10 hours ago
      Probably oversold here because if you read the fine print, the savings only come in cases when you don't need the bytes in context.

      That makes sense for some of the examples the described (e.g. a QA workflow asking the agent to take a screenshot and put it into a folder).

      However, this is not true for an active dev workflow when you actually do want it to see that the elements are not lining up or are overlapping or not behaving correctly. So token savings are possible...if your use case doesn't require the bytes in context (which most active dev use cases probably do)*

    • thellimist 11 hours ago
      This is cool!

      I was actually thinking if I should support daemons just to support playwright. Now I don't have a use case for it

  • with 3 hours ago
    MCP's only real value is the auth handshake for third-party SaaS. the actual tool execution is worse than a subprocess call. more tokens, harder to debug, and the failure modes are worse. if someone just extracted the OAuth layer into a standard that CLIs could use, there's very little reason for the rest of the protocol to exist.
  • KingOfCoders 3 hours ago
    I also prefer CLI over MCP and wrote about it, and why (also when to use #FUSE to integrate AIs and data):

    https://www.tabulamag.com/p/a-new-way-to-integrate-data-into

    My latest CLI instead of MCP:

    https://github.com/StephanSchmidt/human (alpha)

  • ruhith 3 hours ago
    The token savings matter, but the bigger win is that models are already trained on CLI patterns. They know how to pipe, grep, jq. MCP is a protocol models had to learn from scratch; CLI is behavior baked into their weights from millions of examples.
  • eongchen 7 hours ago
    This article is solving a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place. If you're loading 84 MCP tools into every session, the issue isn't MCP vs CLI, it's that you've turned on everything without thinking about when each tool is actually relevant.

    MCP's token cost is the price of availability. The fix isn't to replace the protocol, it's to only activate the tools that matter for the current context. Claude's Skills already work this way -> lightweight descriptions loaded upfront, full definitions fetched on demand. That's essentially the same lazy-loading pattern CLIHub describes, just built into the model's native workflow.

  • ekianjo 28 minutes ago
    At this stage would be much, much better to implement a RAG system based on semantic tool understanding. So that the relevant tools would pop up at every request and not bloat the context. And semantic search is just similarity search which is super fast.
  • max8539 7 hours ago
    I’m trying to use the CLI whenever possible - it’s much easier to install and can be used by both me and the agent. For example, gh seems much easier than installing and setting up an MCP server connection, and it’s more human-readable in terms of what the agent is calling and what it’s getting in return.

    For other integrations, I first try to find an official or unofficial CLI tool (a wrapper around the API), and only then do I consider using MCP

  • cmdtab 12 hours ago
    Not just cheaper in terms of token usage but accuracy as well.

    Even the smallest models are RL trained to use shell commands perfectly. Gemini 3 flash performs better with a cli with 20 commands vs 20+ tools in my testing.

    cli also works well in terms of maintaining KV cache (changing tools mid say to improve model performance suffers from kv cache vs cli —help command only showing manual for specific command in append only fashion)

    Writing your tools as unix like cli also has a nice benefit of model being able to pipe multiple commands together. In the case of browser, i wrote mini-browser which frontier models use much better than explicit tools to control browser because they can compose a giant command sequence to one shot task.

    https://github.com/runablehq/mini-browser

  • joecot 7 hours ago
    If you like me were interested in this but didn't quite know how it'd work, here's a better explanation and examples

    https://jannikreinhard.com/2026/02/22/why-cli-tools-are-beat...

  • bdavbdav 13 hours ago
    I’m not sure how this works. A lot of that tool description is important to the Agent understanding what it can and can’t do with the specific MCP provider. You’d have to make up for that with a much longer overarching description. Especially for internal only tools that the LLM has no intrinsic context for.
    • thellimist 12 hours ago
      I can give example.

      LLM only know `linear` tool exists.

      I ask "get me the comments in the last issue"

      Next call LLM does is

      `linear --help 2>&1 | grep -i -E "search|list.issue|get.issue")` then `linear list-issues --raw '{"limit": 3}' -o json 2>&1 | head -80)` then `linear list-comments --issue-id "abc1ceae-aaaa-bbbb-9aaa-6bef0325ebd0" 2>&1)`

      So even the --help has filtering by default. Current models are pretty good

  • kanodiaayush 7 hours ago
    If we use prompt caching - isn't a largish MCP tools section just like a fixed token penalty in return for higher speed at runtime, because tools don't need to be discovered on demand, and that's the better tradeoff? At least for the most powerful models it doesn't feel like their quality goes down much with a few MCP servers. I might be missing something.
  • mijoharas 12 hours ago
    This sounds similar to MCPorter[0], can anyone point out the differences?

    [0] https://github.com/steipete/mcporter

    • thellimist 12 hours ago
      Main differences are

      CLIHub

      - written in go

      - zero-dependency binaries

      - cross-compilation built-in (works on all platforms)

      - supports OAuth2 w/ PKCE, S2S, Google SA, API key, basic, bearer. Can be extended further

      MCPorter

      - TS

      - huge dependency list

      - runtime dependency on bun

      - Auth supports OAuth + basic token

      - Has many features like SDK, daemons (for certain MCPs), auto config discovery etc.

      MCPorter is more complete tbh. Has many nice to have features for advanced use cases.

      My use case is simple. Does it generate a CLI that works? Mainly oauth is the blocker since that logic needs to be custom implemented to the CLI.

      • zamalek 4 hours ago
        I'm a rust fanboy, but I conceded to Go a long time ago as the ideal language to write MCPs in. I know rust can do a musl build, but the fact it's defacto goes a long way.

        Back to the article. I've written a few MCPs and the fact that it uses JSON is incredibly unfortunate. In one recent project - not an MCP - I cut token count (not character count) of truly unavoidable context to ~60% just by reformatting it as markdown.

        I think I might just try my MCPs as CLIs.

  • arjie 11 hours ago
    These days you can rewrite everything yourself for very cheap. So this is `mcporter` rewritten. I prefer to use Rust personally for rewrites. Opus 4.6 can churn it out pretty quickly if that's what you want. To be honest, almost all software that I want to try these days I don't even install. Instead I'd rather read the README and produce a personal version. This allows encoding idiosyncrasies and specifics that another author will not accept.
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  • orliesaurus 12 hours ago
    I like this approach ... BUT the big win for me is audit logs. CLIs naturally leave a trail you can replay.

    ALSO... the permission boundary is clearer. You can whitelist commands, flags, working dir... it becomes manageable.

    HOWEVER... packaging still matters. A “small” CLI that pulls in a giant runtime kills the benefit.

    I want the discipline of small protocol plus big cache. Cheap models can summarize what they did and avoid full context in every step...

  • davidkunz 4 hours ago
    Just use skills, which allow progressive disclosure of information.
  • andybak 12 hours ago
    Why are they using JSON in the context? I thought we'd figured out that the extra syntax was a waste of tokens?
  • cheriot 10 hours ago
    Is there any redeeming quality of MCP vs a skill with CLI tool? Right now it looks like the latter is a clear winner.

    Maybe MCP can help segregate auto-approve vs ask more cleanly, but I don't actually see that being done.

    • martinald 8 hours ago
      MCP defines a consistent authentication protocol. This is the real issue with CLIs, each CLI can (and will) have a different way of handling authentication (env variables, config set, JSON, yml, etc).

      But tbh there's no reason agents can't abstract this out. As long as a CLI has a --help or similar (which 99% do) with a description of how to login, then it can figure it out for you. This does take context and tool calls though so not hugely efficient.

  • OsrsNeedsf2P 10 hours ago
    So much incorrect and misinformation in these comments. As someone who is building an agent[0] with MCP tools, neither the MCP tool description nor the response is the problem. Both of those are easily solved by not bloating them.

    The real killer is the input tokens on each step. If you have 100k tokens in the conversation, and the LLM calls an MCP tool, the output and the existing conversation is sent back. So now you've input 200k tokens to the LLM.

    Now imagine 10 tool calls per user message - or 50. You're sending 1-5M input tokens, not because the MCP definitions or tool responses are large, but because at each step, you have to send the whole conversation again.

    "what about caching" - Only 90% savings, also cache misses are surprisingly common (we see as low as 40% cache hit rate)

    "MCP definitions are still large" - not compared to any normal conversation. Also these get cached

    We've seen the biggest savings by batching/parallelizing tool calls. I suspect the future of LLM tool usage will have a different architecture, but CLI doesn't solve the problems either.

    [0] https://ziva.sh, it's an agent specialized for Godot[1]

    [1] https://godotengine.org

    • martinald 7 hours ago
      But this is just the nature of LLMs (so far). Every "conversation" involves sending the entire conversation history back.

      The article misses imo the main benefit of CLIs vs _current_ MCP implementations [1], the fact that they can be chained together with some sort of scripting by the agent.

      Imagine you want to sum the total of say 150 order IDs (and the API behind the scenes only allows one ID per API calls).

      With MCP the agent would have to do 150 tool calls and explode your context.

      With CLIs the agent can write a for loop in whatever scripting language it needs, parse out the order value and sum, _in one tool call_. This would be maybe 500 tokens total, probably 1% of trying to do it with MCP.

      [1] There is actually no reason that MCP couldn't be composed like this, the AI harnesses could provide a code execution environment with the MCPs exposed somehow. But noone does it ATM AFIAK. Sort of a MCP to "method" shim in a sandbox.

    • sudhirb 9 hours ago
      a 90% saving is huge isn't it?

      for long agent sessions, I would expect a very high cache hit rate unless you're editing the system prompt, tools, or history between turns, or some turns take longer than the cache timeout

  • winwang 8 hours ago
    Awesome stuff. I have a 'root' cli that i namespace stuff into so to remove the need to pass around paths, e.g: `./cli <cmd> ...`
  • speedgoose 13 hours ago
    MCP has some schemas though. CLI is a bit of a mess.

    But MCP today isn’t ideal. I think we need to have some catalogs where the agents can fetch more information about MCP services instead of filling the context with not relevant noise.

    • thellimist 12 hours ago
      It's the same from functionality perspective. The schema's are converted to CLI versions of it. It's a UI change more than anything.
    • groby_b 12 hours ago
      You are free to build tools that emit/ingest json, and provide a json schema upon request.

      The point is push vs pull.

  • peterldowns 8 hours ago
    I was just looking for a linear CLI earlier today. Awesome that the CLI converter uses that as an example. Nice!
  • hiccuphippo 12 hours ago
    Can LLMs compress those documents into smaller files that still retain the full context?
    • thellimist 12 hours ago
      What do you mean?
      • hiccuphippo 11 hours ago
        The article says the LLM has to load 15540 tokens every time, I wonder if that can be reduced while retaining the context maybe with deduplications, removing superfluous words, using shorter expressions with the same meaning or things like that.
  • slopinthebag 12 hours ago
    I've seen folks say that the future of using computers will be with an LLM that generates code on the fly to accomplish tasks. I think this is a bit ridiculous, but I do think that operating computers through natural language instructions is superior for a lot of cases and that seems to be where we are headed.

    I can see a future where software is built with a CLI interface underneath the (optional) GUI, letting an LLM hook directly into the underlying "business" logic to drive the application. Since LLM's are basically text machines, we just need somebody to invent a text-driven interface for them to use...oh wait!

    Imagine booking a flight - the LLM connects to whatever booking software, pulls a list of commands, issues commands to the software, and then displays the output to the user in some fashion. It's basically just one big language translation task, something an LLM is best at, but you still have the guardrails of the CLI tool itself instead of having the LLM generate arbitrary code.

    Another benefit is that the CLI output is introspectable. You can trace everything the LLM is doing if you want, as well as validate its commands if necessary (I want to check before it uses my credit card). You don't get this if it's generating a python script to hit some API.

    Even before LLM's developers have been writing GUI applications as basically a CLI + GUI for testability, separation of concerns etc. Hopefully that will become more common.

    Also this article was obviously AI generated. I'm not going to share my feelings about that.

  • dmix 9 hours ago
    So it's more of a RAG via CLI than MCP.
  • youio 3 hours ago
    clihub link is broken
  • vasco 12 hours ago
    A lot of providers already have native CLI tools with usually better auth support and longer sessions than MCP as well as more data in their training set on how to use those cli tools for many things. So why convert mcp->cli tool instead of using the existing cli tools in the first place? Using the atlassian MCP is dog shit for example, but using acli is great. Same for github, aws, etc.
  • jbellis 12 hours ago
    You just reinvented Skills
    • thellimist 12 hours ago
      I don't prefer to use online skills where half has malware

      Official MCPs are trusted. Official MCPs CLIs are trusted.

    • esafak 12 hours ago
      Did he? Skills are for CLIs, not for converting MCPs into CLIs.
  • crooked-v 13 hours ago
    Cheaper, but is it more effective?

    I know I saw something about the Next.js devs experimenting with just dumping an entire index of doc files into AGENTS.md and it being used significantly more by Claude than any skills/tool call stuff.

    • thellimist 12 hours ago
      personal experience, definitely yes. You can try it out with `gh` rather than `Github MCP`. You'll see the difference immediately (espicially more if you have many MCPs)
      • esafak 12 hours ago
        The models are trained on gh though. Try with a lesser-known CLI.
        • thellimist 11 hours ago
          I did - I have my almost a dozen CLIs that are custom built that I'm using. Very reliable.

          It still needs to do discovery (--help etc.), always gets the job done

  • kissgyorgy 10 hours ago
    A very good example of this is playwright-cli vs Playwright MCP: https://github.com/microsoft/playwright-cli

    The biggest difference is state, but that's also kind of easy from CLI, the tool just have to store it on disk, not in process memory.

  • econ 12 hours ago
    I had deepseek explain MCP to me. Then I asked what was the point of persistent connections and it said it was pretty much hipster bullshit and that some url to post to is really enough for an llm to interact with things.
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  • dang 12 hours ago
    The article's link to clihub.sh is broken. Looks like https://clihub.org/ is the correct link? I've added that to the toptext as well.

    Edit: took out because I think that was something different.

    • thellimist 12 hours ago
      Good catch.

      I didn't release the website yet. I'll remove the link