First Strike

(geohot.github.io)

30 points | by vinyl7 34 minutes ago

8 comments

  • nl 0 minutes ago
    The future is unwritten.

    If the other front-age article on the Science publication about how human population will have overwhelmed the earth by now isn't enough warning, then I'm old enough to remember how the "Japanese economic miracle" was going to inevitably overwhelm the US.

    There is a serious lack of wisdom in lots of these statements.

    I like to remind people that multiple mainstream "AI Safety" campaigners have called for first strikes on Chinese data centers:

    In a new report titled “Superpowers and AGI,” former Obama-era national security official Jacob Stokes calls for United States to begin preparing readiness drills in response to Chinese AI development — up to and including military strikes on the nation’s data centers, the South China Morning Post reported.

    “Data centers can be bombed with conventional munitions,” Stokes writes. (He’s not the first thinker to suggest bombings to stop powerful AI; in 2023, AI critic Eliezer Yudkowsky suggested that countries needed to be ready to “destroy a rogue data center by airstrike.”)

    https://futurism.com/science-energy/obama-admin-official-sto...

    https://www.cnas.org/publications/reports/superpowers-and-ag...

  • devy 0 minutes ago
    Geohot, pierce through the noises as always, have the most brilliant thoughts.
  • dleeftink 9 minutes ago
    The past few years, being either compute constrained or energy constrained has driven many innovations in this space. Either way, higher availability of resources does not always equate higher utilisation.
    • mcoliver 1 minute ago
      OK, so the more energy constrained country (US) has to innovate, then china steals the innovations and leverages them even further due to their massive energy resources. In the end energy wins always.
    • fibers 3 minutes ago
      The same could be said about deepseek given they had to innovate with limited compute?
  • peter422 7 minutes ago
    Of note, China has a population roughly 4x that of the US
    • mcoliver 0 minutes ago
      and roughly equal (1x not 4x) land and natural resources when you include hawaii and Alaska.
  • PowerElectronix 6 minutes ago
    How's the per capita energy looking? Still lower despite China being a manufacturing and industrial hub?
  • 650 10 minutes ago
    What’s stopping more electricity being generated in the US? It’s both financial and political, but private business could step up here?
  • xgulfie 2 minutes ago
    > Sell as many AI chips into China as possible, use the money to purchase solar panel and battery factories, and build out electricity capacity as quickly as possible.

    This... isn't how capitalism works. If nVidia or whoever sells chips the money doesn't just magically go into strategic infrastructure

  • p-e-w 2 minutes ago
    > If trends continue, China will have 10x the electricity of the US in 10 years.

    And if trends had continued from 1900, our streets would be covered 200 feet high in horse droppings.