All US airports are currently ground stopped

(twitter.com)

169 points | by defly 5 hours ago

10 comments

  • stmw 5 hours ago
    • AstroNutt 2 hours ago
      Thanks for the link. I clicked it and was greeted with this. LOL!

      "It seems the shiny new AI tech tool Strategic Management of Airspace Routing Trajectories (SMART) may have become Failed Airspace Routing Trajectories (FART)"

  • frutiger 5 hours ago
    "Frequency outage", I think that translates to radio communications not working, until "22 Zulu" aka 22:00 UTC, 5 PM ET.
    • lenerdenator 4 hours ago
      How does one prevent transmission on a frequency in an area the size of the continental US?

      It's radio. Either you jam it or it works. That's the selling point.

      • NordSteve 4 hours ago
        It's not the transmitting per-se. The network that gives controllers access to the en route radio system isn't letting them connect to the radios.
  • DavCreator 4 hours ago
  • treebeard901 5 hours ago
    Microsoft outage related??
    • whynotmaybe 3 hours ago
      I can easily imagine a batch job on a mainframe that sends every hour some important data by mail and that some logic apps checks that mailbox to propagate the data but now that mails have been delayed +12hours it's going haywire
      • cucumber3732842 1 hour ago
        And that sort of architecture is normally not a problem (finance has all sorts of stuff like that)... but national ATC systems are not the kind of situation were some SRE can just side load the file while keeping their job.
    • PsycorAI 4 hours ago
      good question
  • datas 5 hours ago
    What are all the possible reasons to do this?

    Has this ever happened?

  • throwaway81523 2 hours ago
    "If builders built houses the way programmers built programs, the first woodpecker to come along would destroy civilization" -- Gerald Weinberg.

    Looks like the woodpecker has arrived.

    • elendilm 2 hours ago
      I disagree vehemently that programmers build lousy programs. Many of us do quite the contrary.

      But this is hilarious, and hence I am upvoting.

      • dijit 1 hour ago
        We’re in the “wooden dwellings” era of software.

        Some cathederals are built, over time, by craftsmen who do work that spans decades.

        However, very few of us are doing that. Most people are just throwing up a shack to live in.

  • ChrisArchitect 4 hours ago
    • razor-thin 4 hours ago
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      • fhdkweig 3 hours ago
        Why? I came into this thread just to make sure someone posted that link. I hate when the discussion gets fragmented across several different posts.
      • seviu 4 hours ago
        +1 ban it and with it the 30k+ Karma it has
      • cactusplant7374 3 hours ago
        Dang does that too. I guess we are going to have to ban him as well.
  • pstuart 5 hours ago
    I guess some of their floppy drives must have given out.
    • 10111001 2 hours ago
      > I guess some of their floppy drives must have given out.

      More likely: the reengineered system has a serious bug.

  • cobychapple 4 hours ago
    • brianshaler 4 hours ago
      If you refresh a few times it'll show the advisories.
  • deadbabe 2 hours ago
    This has been a horrible week for AI: Jensen resigned, Microsoft Outage, now FAA outage from new AI system.

    The reason is clear: all this points to the ANT ipo next week, people want to pop the AI bubble.

    • afavour 2 hours ago
      1. There’s no proof yet that this is AI related

      2. The idea that someone would ground all air traffic in order to disrupt Anthropic’s IPO is an absolutely wild conspiracy theory with no basis in reality

      • deadbabe 55 minutes ago
        1. Everything is AI related now, there are no people hidden away somewhere secretly working on technical things without AI assistance.

        2. Not wild at all. People have vested interested in creating fear around AI.

        • syngrog66 26 minutes ago
          1. I'm not. therefore this point refuted :-)
    • mcdonje 2 hours ago
      What a cope. Per occam's razor, the most likely cause is putting hallucinations on the critical path. But sure, peddle a conspiracy theory.