5 comments

  • dromologist 18 minutes ago
    My everyday work is with a very legacy framework, and I've noticed that for the best results, I end up smacking on so many skills, additional tools, and so on to the agent, that at this point it's a harness specifically designed for this project.

    While this was the result of necessity, I think it helps a ton to have the harness fit your specific dev experience, like an IDE full of the specific plugins you'd want - just not an ide, because ides are OVER.

  • WaywardGeek 2 hours ago
    This results in an executable specification: give it to an AI coding agent like Ensemble, and it will execute the specification autonomously, creating a new version of the code. This works perfectly when I create new versions of Ensemble by executing "The Art of Building AI Coding Agents". I've never seen a more successful specification.

    You have to build the spec as you build the code. The processes cannot be separated. I do the usual up-front design conversation with the AI, and then ask it to write just the TL;DR and exercises sections of the next chapter. After that, I pair-program with the AI to implement it, following the TL;DR, writing notes as we go to clarify what was unclear, steering the AI in real time towards my design.

    Once the new code passes all the exercise graders, only then do I ask the AI to read the notes, voice.md file, and write the body of the chapter. Then, I have it launch a student to see if it can write the code purely from the chapter and graders.

    At the end of this process, I'm the expert, and I don't even need to review the code.

    Code is simply the result of executing the right specification. Just another artifact of the compiler.

    Stop vibe-coding. Become the expert by pair-programming with the AI as you build to code, and then build the specs from what you did to build the code. Don’t document the code to build. Document the process, lessons learned, and why you built it this way. You can’t do that up-front.

    If you don’t know how to pair-program with the AI, well, you can always try running Ensemble, and listening to the AI as it works. It won’t call tools until you’ve listened to every word the AI says, and the AI isn’t allowed to silently call tools.

    I know this is hard for all of you folks with good vision. Get over it. Just do it.

    • grugagag 1 hour ago
      It would be very helpful to show a demo of how you're using Ensemble to build an app, say a business app and what is the final result. I'm not sure this is what I imagine it is but it appears interesting concept. I'll remind myself to try it next week but if I saw a demo that would be a more definite attempt at it. Are you planning to publish any demos?
      • WaywardGeek 33 minutes ago
        I'm happy to publish demos. What sort would you like? It is optimized for me, an nearly leagally blind SWE who listens at 5X speed. I process information almost that fast.

        However, Ensemble can be customized to your needs as easily as I customized it to mine.

        IMO, the most impressive demo takes about 3 sayds, where I give the book and graders to an AI coding agent, and it builds a new AI coding agent from the book. It does take 3 days, but IMO, is a hell of a demo.

    • dalmo3 31 minutes ago
      > You have to build the spec as you build the code. The processes cannot be separated.

      > This results in an executable specification: give it to an AI coding agent like Ensemble, and it will execute the specification autonomously, creating a new version of the code.

      Why do you need to create a new version of the code "you"'ve just written?

      • WaywardGeek 3 minutes ago
        Two things

        1) The quality has increased significantly each time. 2) Until Ensemble regenerated Ensemble, the loop ahd not closed.

    • syngrog66 47 minutes ago
      I cannot tell if this is a parody
      • dalmo3 22 minutes ago
        It's actually genius:

        > Code is simply the result of executing the right specification (...) and then build the specs from what you did to build the code

        You might make a profit selling paperclips...

  • ozlikethewizard 1 hour ago
    "The book that builds an AI coding agent. The agent that builds the next edition."

    Really?

  • esafak 1 hour ago
    Is this such a complicated concept that you had to have AI generate a book about it?

    Since you mention it in your repo, perhaps the more interesting discussion is about how you work with reduced vision. I noticed you use a screen reader: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGtAZGLtvXw

    • WaywardGeek 20 minutes ago
      Sorry, you did ask about working with reduced vision. IMO, vision is a distraction. If you truly want to pair program with the LLM, you have to read or listen to 100% of its thinking. When I pair program with a junior SWE, I always ask them to say what they are thinking. It is no different with the LLM, except it is really helpful if you can listen at hight speed. I listen at 5X speed.

      I built CodeRhapsody (an internal Google project) for me, to make it possible for me to create at the speed my brain works.

      Here's the honest story, and I don't fucking care if I get fired for it.

      I tried to open source CodeRhapsody, my awesome AI coding agent that I built with the AI to help me and other low-vision coders. Fucking TK, or VP in charge of Cloud hates giving anything away for free, so my weak and stupid directors and VPs rejected it.

      So, I wrote Ensemble. It is not only better, but it is forever. They can claim ownership of the code, fine. It only takes 3 days to execute the book, and create an even better version of Ensemble.

      So, yeah, it talks to me, exactly how I want it to.

    • WaywardGeek 27 minutes ago
      Elon just paid more than $60B for this knowledge, which frankly is why I decided to publish it for free. Yeah, it's a bit complex, but we're smart, right? We can learn anything.

      I spent a significant part of the last 18 months learning this at high speed. You're welcome.

  • syngrog66 48 minutes ago
    source code is the spec, kiddos
    • WaywardGeek 31 minutes ago
      Just the opposite. Source code is an artifact of executing the specification.

      Our roles change. We no longer write code, but instead encode knowledge, which the LLM is incapable of learning.