MaxxBench – "Nice DeepSWE score. But is it true?"

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53 points | by antiuniverse 1 hour ago

6 comments

  • peri-cl 19 minutes ago
    The big trend in that graph is that smaller models collapse the most. Everything with "-flash" in the name, plus OpenAI Luna.

    Look at GPT 5.6-Sol vs. GPT 5.6-Luna in particular.

    (The GLM pair shouldn't be expected follow this pattern, because they're misnamed: GLM-5.3 and GLM-5.3-flash are distinct lineages. The -flash is an early release of a new pretrain on a new architecture).

    If this *is* the main factor, I'd expect Kimi K3.1 and Gemini Carbon would also do well on this test (unlike Gemini-flash); while Haiku 6 would collapse (breaking the trend of the other recent Claude models). It's a falsifiable prediction.

  • YetAnotherNick 20 minutes ago
    DeepSWE was released on May and Deepseek v4 flash was released on April. By definition it couldn't be benchmaxxed on this particular benchmark. My guess is the mutation is not like real world and it is tripping small models, not benchmaxed model.
  • Neywiny 46 minutes ago
    This is perfect. Real programming has a ton of these instances of minor changes.
  • manamaliahmed 4 minutes ago
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  • saejox 38 minutes ago
    There is always a huge discrepancy between benchmarks and real world capabilities.

    For my use case deepseek 4.1 flash is almost as dumb as haiku 5.5. Both are fast garbage producers.

    • jeffbee 32 minutes ago
      I was beginning to worry I had overlooked the inner beauty of DeepSeek. When I have tried it, it was totally useless. Never understood HN cheering for it.
      • AlotOfReading 2 minutes ago
        Don't know what you're doing, but it's good enough for the reasonably sized tasks I give LLMs. It's also a much better price. My browser stopped rendering the UI frame recently because I messed up permissions on /usr/share/icons. Took DS 4.1 flash about 3 minutes and a few cents to diagnose it. Same harness with opus 5 took twice as long and several dollars.

        Moreover, the months I've used anthropic/OAI exclusively my API token costs are in the hundreds (or sometimes thousands). With DS flash as the first agent I reach for, I rarely exceed $40/mo.

    • embedding-shape 27 minutes ago
      > There is always a huge discrepancy between benchmarks and real world capabilities.

      I mean of course, the real world is messy, the models are only good for what they've been trained on, and post-training frequently takes benchmark scores into account too, leading to this sort of "Great score, sucks in the real world" syndrome that seemingly most models are affected by.

  • brcmthrowaway 48 minutes ago
    Two brothers created a benchmark, family is so proud.