6 comments

  • source99 4 hours ago
    I would pay for this as a high quality book. Ideally some info and detail about each processor. Anyone else?
  • omoikane 22 minutes ago
    See also Ken Shirriff's blog, which has die photos plus detailed explanation of how things work.

    https://www.righto.com/

    https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=righto.com

  • manytimesaway 7 hours ago
    That maker list is unusable. It's not sorted in any way, contains duplicates (MOS Technology & Commodore CSG are the same), and would gain from reorganizing some brands (gathering Nintendo CPUs together, for instance).
  • josh-wrale 6 hours ago
    Have people tried training models to decode these photographs into code?
    • amelius 5 hours ago
      How would you do that if there's like 60 layers of metal conductors over the silicon substrate?
      • josh-wrale 5 hours ago
        Fair. I guess it would be necessary to CT scan them, like the Vesuvius Challenge
        • Arubis 1 hour ago
          You can destructively deprocess dies, removing a layer at a time and imaging at each layer. 20ish years ago you could still do this with a polishing wheel and a fine slurry; don’t know if that’s still viable.
        • dgfl 4 hours ago
          Not sure if regular tomography would work, but this has been done at high enough resolution with some fancier techniques (ptychography): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07615-6

          I would imagine this is of decent interest to people reverse engineering chip designs, or doing failure analysis, so it’s possible someone might actually be trying this at scale.

      • elictronic 4 hours ago
        It’s like taking a picture of someone’s house to determine their current medical diagnosis.

        Garbage in, it’ Herpes.

        • giancarlostoro 4 hours ago
          Could have just said to determine where all the pipes are but you know, you could go all the way to herpes I suppose… :)
      • throwaway198846 5 hours ago
        Computer, enhance!
        • kkotak 4 hours ago
          We need two people on the keyboard at the same time to enahnce.
    • YoshiRulz 2 hours ago
  • karim79 5 hours ago
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  • superjan 4 hours ago