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  • tristanj 13 hours ago
    Google announced yesterday they would invest $17 billion into this Wyoming data center project https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/infrastructure-and-clo...

    > Data center upstart Crusoe is being pushed aside at an artificial intelligence campus it was developing in Wyoming after failing to lock in customers including Alphabet Inc.’s Google, according to people familiar with the situation. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-11-06/google-ta...

    Problems with Crusoe were already brewing back in June:

    > The developer [Crusoe] known for giant AI buildouts announced that it had “paused” its plan to build a data center that would draw enough electricity to power a city the size of Denver. In reality, Crusoe is being pressured to leave the project, after Google had raised concerns about the costs and timetable under Crusoe’s watch, some of the people said, asking not to be identified because the information isn’t public. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-11/crusoe-pu...

    Crusoe was previously a bitcoin mining operation that pivoted to building AI data centers around 2024. They don't have decades of experience building data centers.

    It seems Google disagreed with how Crusoe was running the project and decided it would be better to own everything itself, so it acquired the project.

    • pm90 12 hours ago
      Yeah crusoe was a bitcoin miner, then pivoted to using flared natural gas for compute, now AI neocloud. I interviewed there at one point; the engineers seemed allright but the leadership… very dodgy.
    • alpb 7 hours ago
      they don't have experience building datacenters, yet

      > Crusoe Energy: Acts as the lead developer for the flagship 1.2 GW Abilene, Texas campus ("Project Ludicrous"), as part of Project Stargate, managing the execution, co-financing, and design of the data halls.

    • echelon 5 hours ago
      > Crusoe was previously a bitcoin mining operation that pivoted to building AI data centers around 2024. They don't have decades of experience building data centers.

      Didn't stop CoreWeave. They very successfully pivoted from crypto to data centers.

  • cmarschner 5 hours ago
    We can’t build out data centers that are not running on renewable energy. It’s too critical to get global warming under control, and the AI build-out is going in the opposite direction of where we need to be heading, and at a huge scale.

    It’s just greediness unhinged by lack of policies. And the voters have finally had a say.

    • nonethewiser 50 minutes ago
      You have to be kidding me
    • pembrook 2 hours ago
      What the hell happened to this place?

      These are some of the silliest takes I've ever seen. HN used to be full of intelligent people.

      Data centers don't use a particularly large amount of energy compared to literally any other commercial human activity. You likely use more energy driving to the store once than you do firing off AI queries for an entire year.

      • glitchcrab 2 hours ago
        Of course you as a person don't use a vast amount of energy, but in aggregate all AI usage does. You have to look at the impact at the macro scale; talking about per-person usage in this instance is absurd.
        • redwood 47 minutes ago
          3% or so of electricity
  • nsoam 2 hours ago
    I was wondering if a solution to the NIMBYs is to just put the data centres in other countries like Mexico? I understand it would be hard to have talent move there, though. I mean, this sounds so obvious, but I haven’t heard much discourse around it yet so I’m not sure how feasible it is.
    • brunoarueira 59 minutes ago
      I guess the main problem is infrastructure like energy, heat dissipation and local government. So, why not build them on Canada or Alaska? There are resources and could help on the problems I pointed out.
    • Hamuko 1 hour ago
      It's not like they're just trying to build data centres in the US. Google's building two in Finland (although all work has been suspended because they had trouble following local laws).
      • nsoam 1 hour ago
        Yes, but I think they need some in North America for latency reasons.
    • nonethewiser 48 minutes ago
      >I was wondering if a solution to the NIMBYs is to just put the data centres in other countries like Mexico?

      Or the NIMBYs

      The thing is a lot of the opposition is simply anti AI so it doesn’t matter where you put them.

  • simonw 12 hours ago
    Presumably the value of data centers that (1) already exist and (2) already have deals to provide the energy (and water) they need is about to skyrocket.
    • notfried 12 hours ago
      And even more so the ones that have room for brownfield expansion on the premises. Adding capacity to a site that is already zoned and permitted could be relatively easier.
  • redwood 46 minutes ago
    Wyoming looks less regulated than Texas a Ohio now
  • aligianti 9 hours ago
    energy is the most valuable thing right now
    • rf15 4 hours ago
      always has been, we are just distracted by abstractions around it.
    • Hamuko 1 hour ago
      If that's the case then China is running circles around the US. They're actually investing in energy rollout whereas US is going as far as to pay companies to not build wind farms.
      • nonethewiser 43 minutes ago
        Yup. And while new coal development has stalled they have no qualms about using a huge amount of it for electricity.

        Dont forget that the US is attacking the energy supply from both sides. Oil, wind, etc. Yes to all.

  • zerozerotwo 12 hours ago
    This isn’t trans meta crusoe right?
    • drooopy 7 hours ago
      First thing that came to mind as well.
    • oofabz 11 hours ago
      no it's not, and we are old
  • rooftopzen 13 hours ago
    They will likely back out (this is infinite money glitch news for accounting) - see: similar from Nscale. No one company needs more data centers lol (you will not hear this from anyone who has a vested interest in using them as loan collateral).
    • WarmWash 7 hours ago
      When the labs don't need to do rate limiting and quotas I'll believe this take.