I dumped Apple’s word list

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122 points | by speckx 2 hours ago

20 comments

  • nonethewiser 1 hour ago
    There is a lot more interesting stuff to mine from this.

    The phrase blocklist for the Chinese lanaguge is a lot larger (surprise, surprise). It about 281 KB for Simplified Chinese, 325 KB for Traditional and 160 KB for Cantonese, against 28 KB for English.

    apparently there are `shouldShowTaiwanFlagEmoji()` and `deviceIsChinese()` functions as well but that doesn't have anything to do with this database.

  • rappatic 1 hour ago
    > I dumped Apple's word list

    Claude dumped Apple's word list, and obviously wrote the article too.

    • breznev 19 minutes ago
      Yup. Something about this sentence reeks of Opus 5.5: "The one exception is the n-word: it is in the list in English and several other languages, and I'm not writing it out."
    • alex43578 54 minutes ago
      You didn't write this comment, your keyboard did.
    • kulahan 1 hour ago
      The calculator did the math!
  • verytrivial 1 hour ago
    I have a MacBook that was meant to replace my aging Windows and Linux laptops. This article is a microcosm of why I have just stopped using it. An endless stream of mollycoddling, obfuscation and "It's for your own good, child" trash. I can't even bring myself to sell it because I'm ashamed of it.
    • lrvick 1 hour ago
      Install Linux on it and carve a big X over the apple logo
      • awesome_dude 1 hour ago
        I have Asahi on my mac book mini - it turns a nice piece of hardware into a wonderful computer to use :)
    • watwut 1 hour ago
      But ... the point of that vulgar words list is to STOP autocorrecting them when it detects intentional use.
      • yborg 1 hour ago
        The parent post is a microcosm of why he's actually not using the Macbook - he doesn't understand how it works.
      • mahboi 1 hour ago
        Also you can disable autocorrect. I don't even have this list.
  • thinkingemote 1 hour ago
    Would it be possible to get versions of the files to see when certain words got added and I imagine certain words got removed? Could be interesting to correlate certain events, personalities, trends, memes, controversies etc with the changes.

    It was added in 23 so there's potentially 3 years of updates.

    Edits: This comment shows differences between 15.6 and 26.2 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50358223

  • jmbwell 1 hour ago
    This is about autocorrect learning words you like to use that it should consider potentially intentional use of words it might otherwise think you typed accidentally

    It’s adaptive non-censorship

  • Retr0id 1 hour ago
    I'd appreciate if someone could dump the iOS "adult websites" list (which are blocked by default in the UK unless you submit government ID etc.)
    • ilumanty 1 hour ago
      Wait, are you saying iOS UK Edition blocks adult websites on the OS level?
      • Retr0id 1 hour ago
        Yup! Any webkit web view, and iOS doesn't allow any non-webkit web views (in this jurisdiction at least)
        • matthewmacleod 27 minutes ago
          This is just a straight-up lie.
          • Retr0id 7 minutes ago
            Well if it works some other way, please dump it anyway and let us all know how it works?
    • flanz_10 1 hour ago
      It's not a list, it's a series of ML classifications. Basically, you've got "child mode" locked on. The solution is to not use a UK apple id.
      • Retr0id 1 hour ago
        An ML classifier running against the DNS name? Really?
        • flanz_10 20 minutes ago
          Not really DNS. They're actually checking the entire URL. They also check page content and other metadata.

          If you're having distinct dns blocking errors, that's not Apple or it's a profile that's been set on your device.

  • nonethewiser 1 hour ago
    Apple's built-in dictionary flags on my Mac: 26.2, which is newer than the article's 15.6. Apple has changed several things since:

      ┌───────────────┬────────────────┬──────────────────────────────────────────┐
      │               │ Article (15.6) │             My Mac   (26.2)              │
      ├───────────────┼────────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────┤
      │ Total entries │ 199,019        │ 199,940                                  │
      ├───────────────┼────────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────┤
      │ Vulgar        │ 1,050          │ 850                                      │
      ├───────────────┼────────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────┤
      │ Offensive     │ 663            │ 727                                      │
      ├───────────────┼────────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────┤
      │ Sensitive     │ 2,558          │ 2,748                                    │
      ├───────────────┼────────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────┤
      │ Oedipus       │ vulgar         │ sensitive (sex topic)                    │
      ├───────────────┼────────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────┤
      │ cooties       │ vulgar         │ clean                                    │
      ├───────────────┼────────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────┤
      │ Biden         │ clean          │ now tagged politics topic, still no tier │
      └───────────────┴────────────────┴──────────────────────────────────────────┘
    
      These are unchanged:
      - Trump is still sensitive with the politics topic. The lowercase card-game word "trump" is still
        clean.
      - Obama, Putin, Vance and Harris have no tier. Musk still isn't in the dictionary.
      - Tom and Mick are still offensive, and pee, poo, niggle, underling, blacklist and Isis are still
        sensitive.
      - idiot is still sensitive, and now also has the catch-all "sensitive context" topic.
    
      Words in the capitalized sensitive list that the article doesn't mention include Saddam, Grindr,
      Oedipus/Oedipal, TERF and Viagra. Trump is still the only living politician among them.
  • swiftcoder 1 hour ago
    The vulgar db doesn't exist at all (nor the ~/Library/Keyboards directory) on my Tahoe install. Weird
  • _false 1 hour ago
    if autocorrect is disabled this will be empty
  • swid 1 hour ago
    This is interesting… does anyone have data in theirs? It also feels like something they could have put on an intern and it didn’t really gain any traction. Each app would need to “tell” the OS who the receiver is, and the article indicates there is no API to do that. Maybe it just knows, but how could that be?
  • deprave 1 hour ago
    Why does Apple need to keep these in a separate database? I thought they removed filtering, maybe subject to user age or parental controls, not added a whole mechanism to manage it.
  • jooize 1 hour ago
    giving fixing ducking

    How do I make iOS let me swipe “fucking” everywhere? fucking

    fucking fucking fucking!! After typing it manually two or three times it then swipe completes in this particular text field in this app. I've heard about adding a contact with the words, but that is ridiculous, so I have held out hoping Apple will eventually come to their senses, like a fool.

    This doesn't make “fuck” swipeable either… unless I type it once, and keep it in the text field!

    • Oarch 9 minutes ago
      Add autocorrect in the settings/keyboard/text replacement to change duck and ducking etc back to their original beauty
  • baggachipz 1 hour ago
    > Every other real person on that list is dead, and nearly all of them are Nazi officials, dictators or terrorists. Then there's Trump

    If the shoe fits....

    • walthamstow 56 minutes ago
      Surely the first HN user to be named after a Brummie drag queen
    • Y_Y 1 hour ago
      you must acquit
  • whycome 1 hour ago
    Does this play a role in why the keyboard on iOS is so fucking enraging? It used to be amazing.
    • MBCook 44 minutes ago
      No. That is a separate INCREDIBLY OBNOXIOUS issue.

      Can’t believe they don’t fix it year after year.

      • FireBeyond 6 minutes ago
        There are literal slow motion videos on YouTube showing people pressing the correct intended next character and iOS "correcting" it to something else because it predicted(?) that they actually meant something else.
      • busymom0 29 minutes ago
        When the first iOS 27 beta came out, it was actually really good for me. But later betas and now the public release ruined it once again. It's unbelievable how bad it is.
  • rdtsc 1 hour ago

        Putin clean
        Stalin clean
    
    Somehow Mao is there. But Pol Pot isn't. I would have guessed they'd go by the number of victims. But I guess "Uncle Joe" is clean and uncontroversial, so someone was confused about history. But yeah, this has that "Cupertino interns typed this list" feel to it.
  • anonymous908213 1 hour ago
    Somebody please kill Claude I'm so fucking tired of reading this grating writing. Technology was a mistake
    • lioeters 19 minutes ago
      That's the funniest comment I read today. Honestly, I feel the same.

      The cultural burnout and second-hand AI overdose many of us are suffering. It's a form of mental pollution, and it's getting harder to breathe.

    • hugodan 1 hour ago
      If you find something funnier than Oedipus, I want to hear about it.
      • smcin 56 minutes ago
        'Bacchus', 'Hooters' are also in the lists. 'Pornhub' but not 'OnlyFans'/'OF'.

        I'm reminded of how Cartman on South Park used to sneak in terms like 'catamite'. Steganographized archaic terms.

    • ixtli 35 minutes ago
      I feel the same way.
  • CalChris 1 hour ago
    Right on Trump and wrong on Putin.
  • ajjenkins 1 hour ago
    Why would “trump” be considered an offensive term? My understanding of the database is to prevent you from accidentally typing offensive or words being autocorrected to something offensive. Like if I misspell “helper” I don’t want that to be autocorrected to “hitler”.

    It’s surprising to me that “trump” would get the same classification. Given that he’s the current president of the US, I’m sure people intentionally type his name all the time. I don’t want my keyboard to steer me away from writing out “trump”. And typos autocorrecting to Trump don’t seem like a big deal either. Would anyone be offended by the text “don’t forget to bring your Trump to band practice”?

    • monster_truck 1 hour ago
      They're really passionate about Euchre (in a negative way) over in Cupertino
    • ixtli 1 hour ago
      just read the article and trump (unless its the word for fart as in the uk) is marked as sensitive.
    • freehorse 51 minutes ago
      > Would anyone be offended by the text “don’t forget to bring your Trump to band practice”?

      Trump could be offended. It is obviously there to avoid offending Trump.

      And it is not considered "offensive" but "sensitive".

    • edf13 1 hour ago
      Here in the UK it means fart
    • n2d4 1 hour ago
      Trump is marked as sensitive, not offensive; along with words like "God", "Jews", and "gun"
    • Larrikin 1 hour ago
      A reasonable explanation is proposed in the article
  • ixtli 1 hour ago
    Incredible that 'conservatards' is in there but not 'libtard'. I thought the right was always being censored!
    • nancyminusone 1 hour ago
      I don't think I have ever seen 'conservatards' before today
      • freehorse 49 minutes ago
        First time I heard that word too. Which proves the point /s

        People are reading too much into this.

        • ixtli 36 minutes ago
          I commented this here for this precise reason. `Libtard` is definitely a word people on the internet use but the other one ive literally never seen before. Someone went out of their way to add one and not the other. I agree though that, ehem, rightoids are supremely sensitive tho.
    • MBCook 1 hour ago
      That is odd. Hadn’t occurred to me.
    • bluebarbet 1 hour ago
      Just in time for America's ongoing discovery that "liberal" and "conservative" are in fact quite similar ideologies. New insults are called for. I propose "progtard" and "reactard".
      • what 29 minutes ago
        Progcels be seething over reactchads.
        • DeluluDon 24 minutes ago
          IRC is that way ->
          • bluebarbet 9 minutes ago
            In fairness, this discussion is about offensive vocabulary.
    • nonethewiser 1 hour ago
      libtard and conservatard are both there on when I tested on my Mac 26.2
    • warkdarrior 1 hour ago
      The author must have bought MAGA edition of the MBP. The AOC edition has 'libtard' in it, surely.
    • ixtli 37 minutes ago
      I think downvoters may not have realized i was being sarcastic with my second sentence.
    • CodeWriter23 1 hour ago
      It's the exception that proves the rule