Napping characteristics and incident dementia

(academic.oup.com)

30 points | by bookofjoe 3 hours ago

8 comments

  • thisisauserid 2 hours ago
    Unintentional napping was associated with possible/probable dementia.

    Intentional napping was not.

    One could easily reverse cause and effect here.

    • causal 2 hours ago
      Yeah I feel like the results could be stated more clearly. At any rate this doesn't seem to associate risk with any chosen behavior.
    • kirth_gersen 2 hours ago
      It seems to me that perhaps the data better supports that dementia is correlated with unintentional and short naps. This makes it sound like they think it is causal, which I doubt.
    • ahartmetz 2 hours ago
      Easily. I'm 80% sure that they did reverse cause and effect.
    • tyrabound 1 hour ago
      Yes, ironically they even admit possible reverse causal effect along with many other causal variables. Frankly, this is not exactly stellar research in my view, at least with the rather reckless insinuations not supported.
  • outworlder 1 hour ago
    "unintentional napping"

    I used to 'unintentionally nap' all the time since I was a teen.

    Then I discovered I had sleep apnea. No more napping. And dementia has been linked to sleep apnea.

    I wonder if this study is missing some quite big issues here.

    • keybrd-intrrpt 3 minutes ago
      > I wonder if this study is missing some quite big issues here.

      Definitely seems like a possible "correlation is not causation".

      I would find it hard to believe that sleep is somehow biologically harmful.

      So, like your example, excessive or unintentionally napping is instead a sign of an underlying issue or poor health. Possibly the body trying to sleep to repair some damage?

  • sapientiae3 36 minutes ago
    I feel like “unintentional napping” should not be called napping…

    Napping for me means intentionally having a short sleep. I don’t know what unintentional napping is.

    • tartoran 26 minutes ago
      I wonder what unitentional napping means as well. I assume it's for example watching TV/reading a book on the sofa and falling asleep as opposed to wanting to fall asleep with a book or while watching TV.
  • reedf1 2 hours ago
    I am a frequent intentional napper (< 30 minutes). Am I right in reading that I am at baseline risk?
    • gwbas1c 2 hours ago
      I think we need to understand what intentional vs unintentional napping is.
      • Carrok 2 hours ago
        Is this not clear from the term?

        "I'm going to go take a nap in bed."

        vs

        "I fell asleep in a chair."

        • gwbas1c 1 hour ago
          No, we need to know how the study defined them, not how you interpret them.

          In medicine, sometimes semantics are more important than you think.

        • readthenotes1 1 hour ago
          Yet I intentionally nap in the chair when I become overcome with lassitude
          • IncreasePosts 1 hour ago
            Where do you nap when overcome with langour or ennui?
    • thisisauserid 2 hours ago
      See what I mean?
  • falsemyrmidon 2 hours ago
    I'd guess this goes back to not getting enough healthy sleep, which is a reason people nap.
    • readthenotes1 1 hour ago
      Except intentional napping, which could be "yawn, I slept bad last night; I'm gonna go take a nap" is not a risk.
      • cestith 2 minutes ago
        Poor sleep when intended could also be a reason for falling asleep without planning to do so.
  • tt24 1 hour ago
    Sleep apnea.
  • pengaru 1 hour ago
    disclaimer: I didn't read TFA

    drive-by comment: unintentional napping seems likely to occur more in those failing to get actual restful sleep on the regular. Don't we already know chronic sleep deprivation correlates with dementia/alzheimers risk?