Pharo 14

(pharo.org)

65 points | by xkriva11 4 hours ago

11 comments

  • flavio81 8 minutes ago
    This is exciting news, and I would like to say "hello" to Richard Kenneth Eng, the sole user of Pharo in the world.
  • ElevenLathe 11 minutes ago
    Does anyone know the current state of agent-assisted Smalltalk, Pharo or otherwise? Intuitively it seems like a match made in heaven, since the agent can directly manipulate the running program, but I also assume that there is very little training data available for Smalltalk.
    • flavio81 7 minutes ago
      >Intuitively it seems like a match made in heaven, since the agent can directly manipulate the running program

      This should be a BIG benefit for agent-driven development, but sadly it seems that few people is taking advantage of it.

  • juancn 25 minutes ago
    It's like a protestant Smalltalk!

    (Smalltalk is a religion, I will die on this hill!)

  • dharmatech 31 minutes ago
    Niva is a Smalltalk-like language with static types:

    https://github.com/gavr123456789/Niva

    An implementation of Boids for Niva:

    https://github.com/dharmatech/boids-niva

  • bmacho 26 minutes ago
    Why don't they make a DOM/SVG front-end for the browsers? (Not canvas!)

    It could serve as the engine for new, fun, interactive websites!

  • logancbrown 32 minutes ago
    Reading stuff like this continue to make advances and new releases is like a fever dream when everything else is all AI.
    • ramesh31 25 minutes ago
      >"Reading stuff like this continue to make advances and new releases is like a fever dream when everything else is all AI."

      Do the advances mean anything though? Alan Kay is a personal hero of mine, I love the aesthetic of Smalltalk, and the dream-that-was once upon a time of such a system was a real missed opportunity for the evolution of programming environments. But is it anything more than a neat hobby at this point?

      • logancbrown 1 minute ago
        > But is it anything more than a neat hobby at this point?

        It effectively already is. It may end up in the same domain as Haiku OS, Plant 9, or Squeak, but they are all still interesting domains of research.

  • thelazydogsback 24 minutes ago
    Like many here, I've always been a language buff -- programming in assmebly, C(++), Java, various Lisps, Prolog, O'Caml/F#/Hask, etc. - and a fan of Smalltalk. (Used Tektronix ST and Smalltalk-V, but never Pharo.)

    One thing that AI programming has done is made me care much less what programming language is being used. This is slightly regrettable, but for the most part very freeing, as I don't need to worry about what language is easier for me (as a human) to use for a particular problem, or make me inclined to use one of my "pet" programming languages over one that may be a better fit for more pedestrian reasons.

  • tudorizer 19 minutes ago
    Has anyone pointed CC at Pharo? Or is the UI and IDE a limit in this case?
  • anthk 26 minutes ago
    Pharo with a GTK4+Libadwaita adapted IDE:

    https://github.com/pharo-pulsar/pulsar

    Almost "Pharo for Gnome".

  • wonks 38 minutes ago
    The fact that the page says that this version was made by "more than [X] contributors" makes me think that maybe they don't have enough contributors?
  • throwaway613746 18 minutes ago
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