8 comments

  • grokys 0 minutes ago
    And then people complain when an OSS project becomes successful and tries to fund itself in some way. "But that should be free" shouts everyone. I'm increasingly under coming around to the idea that OSS was the biggest swindle the corporations managed to pull off.
  • sam_lowry_ 37 minutes ago
    She says the full-time member is herself, and looking at her Linkedin (in/elizabethn) she isn't exactly the person who would patch PHP for the two CVEs.
  • bwoebi 39 minutes ago
    The actual work expenses of the PHP foundation can be viewed here:

    https://opencollective.com/phpfoundation/transactions?search... and https://opencollective.com/php-foundation-eur/transactions?s...

    (seems like "work" selects most of that)

    And it's not cheap to pay that many people, especially not full time (which is partly why they don't have more full-time contractors). According to https://opencollective.com/phpfoundation#category-BUDGET they only have a balance $350k currently, sinking.

    It'd be really awesome, if more companies would sponsor the PHP foundation (especially with thousands or tens of thousands of dollars per year. A lot of small contributions is nice, but not enough.). The work of a few core maintainers is really crucial to the continued development of PHP.

  • lwansbrough 36 minutes ago
    Just hold a public yes/no vote on changing licensing to something paid, and charge $10 to vote no.
  • dingdingdang 33 minutes ago
    Come on Facebook/Zuckerberg, set them up with a structured fund that is invested in s&p500 or something equivalent/better and allows them to pay a handful of devs and a person to admin them (all surplus can be earmarked to go to charity to avoid the sinkhole of bureaucracy from a larger org). Would set the PHP Foundation up for life and the whole world would be better off as a result, smallish directed investment with huge payout from a value perspective.
  • Hamuko 42 minutes ago
    The solution is obvious: pour trillions of dollars into Anthropic and OpenAI, and security will trickle down.
  • pmlnr 49 minutes ago
    xkcd 2347 again, what a surprise. Oh, wait, there's at least one paid person, that should be something /s
  • smashers1114 37 minutes ago
    Presumably it makes sense to sunset PHP especially with how cheap code migrations are nowadays.
    • anonymous908213 15 minutes ago
      Beating the dead horse, as you are: the Bun Rust migration cost millions of dollars in tokens and took an additional 3.5 months of labor after the widely-marketed "11-day rewrite" before being shipped as a release, and in the process introduced hundreds of new issues.
    • jmull 20 minutes ago
      What's easier, maintaining PHP or migrating/breaking every single PHP-based site?

      And who's to say whatever sites are migrated to won't be "sunsetted" in a few decades too?

      Seems like a no-brainer to maintain it.

    • glimshe 31 minutes ago
      How cheap are code migrations nowadays? Vibe-migrations, you mean?
    • whatthejesus 21 minutes ago
      Sounds like you’ve been snorting too much iron oxide.