8 comments

  • culi 13 minutes ago
    It's incredibly difficult to do research in West Papua which is under very violent occupation by Indonesia, the US, Britain, South Korea, the Netherlands, and France. Foreign journalists and human rights monitors are basically completely barred. Much of this decades long conflict is around the US-owned Grasberg Mine

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grasberg_mine

  • msuniverse2026 9 minutes ago
    Always surprised when I see new animals discovered. Especially in tiny places like Borneo which seems to be the spawn point for new animals god is testing out.
  • culi 22 minutes ago
    Cogito, who does some of the most astounding and in-depth research on global histories, just came out with an incredible documentary about the history of West Papua that changed the way I see it forever. I highly recommend it (and most of Cogito's work. Even his extensive citations are worth spending time with)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWp5904RkJY

    This is an area where raising the West Papua can give you 15 years in prison.

  • swiftcoder 3 hours ago
    Really cool. I hope they succeed in establishing native rights to the forest before the logging companies make them extinct again.
  • RomannBami 38 minutes ago
    C'est vraiment super, mais faisons très attention quand même
  • hulitu 34 minutes ago
    > thought extinct for 6000 years

    Does this makes sense for an English speaker ?

    • bryanrasmussen 10 minutes ago
      In British English it is totally reasonable and in fact relatively elegant, in American it might take a couple of seconds to figure out what was being said and it would seem ungainly for this reason.

      On the British elegance: in British English one could of course use "thought to be extinct" and in these kinds of structures it has become common as a stylistic touch to drop the helping infinitive, "to be", considering it implied.

    • ChrisMarshallNY 24 minutes ago
      I don't usually use this structure, but my mother did, and she was an awesome writer. She was British, so it may be more common, over there.
    • culi 26 minutes ago
      Yes but they could've used the word "considered" instead.

      "Possum considered extinct for 6,000 years"

    • akk0 23 minutes ago
      Yes, with the caveat that it's the distinct dialect of Headlinese
    • samatman 29 minutes ago
      It's a bad sentence. They mean "thought to have gone extinct 6000 years ago". But some allowance for headline constraints should be given.
  • triyambakam 3 hours ago
    I wouldn't be surprised if more such discoveries were found. Papua is, as best as I can describe it, insane.
    • abanana 3 hours ago
      Indeed, it seems the interior of the country is so little-known and so unspoiled by modern civilisation, it would be surprising if we don't have any unexpected discoveries coming out of there in the nearish future.
      • anon84873628 2 hours ago
        Not to get all internet indignant about it, but the island is currently split into two countries thanks to the colonization by Indonesia. Which human rights advocates and indigenous leaders consider to be a systematic ethnic cleansing and cultural erasure of the indigenous Melanesian Papuan population. Along with an ecocide driven by a toxic mix of military occupation, corporate exploitation, and resource extraction.

        The situation in West Papua is essentially one of the least recognized humanitarian and ecological tragedies slowly happening right under our noses.

        • culi 17 minutes ago
          The part people especially don't like to talk about is that Indonesia is acting as a proxy for the US, Britain, and France here. Readers of The Jakarta Method won't find this surprising but the scale here is astounding. The largest gold and copper mine in the world is here and it is owned by the US.

          The US currently has 8,133.5 metric tons of gold which is more than the next 4 combined (Germany, Italy, France, and China). About 1,700 metric tonnes (out of an estimated total 4,720) has been extracted from West Papua by the US

        • red75prime 2 hours ago
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          • DoItToMe81 2 hours ago
            The military goes in and splits up their communities by murdering them on behalf of logging and mining companies.
            • red75prime 1 hour ago
              What it has to do with the "cultural erasure" I quoted specifically? "Who owns the land" is a different problem that is not made simpler by the fact that the land is subject to tribal conflicts.