DeepSeek: DeepSeek v4.1 Flash 1017

(openrouter.ai)

154 points | by theanonymousone 2 hours ago

12 comments

  • olavgg 47 minutes ago
    I really like the having DeepSeek Flash + Opus 5.5 as advisor/reviewer at the moment. I run through a $200 Claude Code subscription in less than 24 hours now just for a single project, and I hate fiddling with different accounts every day. Now that I get a 200 USD api credits inlcuded with the subscriptions I have rewritten my coding agent workflow completely.
    • rpastuszak 31 minutes ago
      > I run through a $200 Claude Code subscription in less than 24 hours now just for a single project

      How?

      • monster_truck 2 minutes ago
        I can drain a $200 OAI plan in 2 hours flat working on my 10 projects simultaneously.

        Maybe you're not being ambitious enough with these things? They are at their most fun when you spec out sprawling architecture documents and watch 1+8 astras buzzsaw through it.

        I'm only at 260B for the year, though. I'm sure someone who has used more will be along shortly to chime in

        E: The other subthread talking about tests is correct. Expensive models should not waste a single second waiting on tests or validation. If you cannot assign a single cheap model to be the test bitch, then just tell them to frontload everything and clean up later as a single wave.

      • olavgg 12 minutes ago
        Its easy when you spawn a couple of subagents in a homelab with a rack with 5+ servers.

        This is how one of my claude code session looks like right now, one prompt from yesterday:

          ◯ lean-tracks  ▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱  7/12 · 18h35m · ↓ 3.1m tokens
          ◯ lean-tracks  ▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱  6/10 · 17h47m · ↓ 2.6m tokens
          ◯ lean-tracks  ▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱  0/1 · 4h49m · ↓ 275.9k tokens
          ◯ lean-tracks  ▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱  0/1 · 4h30m · ↓ 395.0k tokens
         ◯ lean-tracks  ▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱  0/1 · 3h50m · ↓ 490.3k tokens
        • imdsm 2 minutes ago
          Not sure if this will help you but it helped me. I was using subagents and workflows for lots of long running tasks, and part of that work included running tests. If tests took longer than 5 minutes, the cache expired, and the whole thing was then being processed as uncached input.

          I created a skill to better manage agents, including a way to keep the caches valid, and it has decreased my usage considerably. I now struggle to use my 100% each week and I hit claude hard. I have a reset expiring in 5 days and I'm trying to burn down the tokens (68% with 3d 8h left) quickly so I can use my reset before it expires.

          Token efficiency just means understanding the way the system works. Best person to help with that... my old friend claude.

        • olavgg 6 minutes ago
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      • TomGarden 10 minutes ago
        Not OP, but I used to run out in a few days, for me it was a matter of suboptimal code review practices with many subagents looking at different aspects, often expanded to look at more than the diff.
      • ramigb 18 minutes ago
        I swear I have the same question in my head always when I read such statements! I have never once reached 90% that includes everyday usage across multiple repos, artefact generation, device debugging, long running harness work!

        I am not saying OP is not telling the truth. I just really want to understand!

        • pheggs 8 minutes ago
          in my experience there's a huge difference in token usage when creating new projects versus working on existing ones
      • hugodan 20 minutes ago
        not reviewing its ongoing work and spawning subagents that end up looping each other
      • fahrvrgnugen 26 minutes ago
        Loading tons of MCPs and never compacting
      • imadierich 16 minutes ago
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      • nimchimpsky 25 minutes ago
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    • thomasmarcelis 27 minutes ago
      Interesting, coming from a similar situation, I'm interested what workflow you landed on. Opus planning + available to be called for deep thinking + opus reviwer? or?
    • _R_ 39 minutes ago
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  • risphere 1 hour ago
    The native web search api is 10x cheaper than OpenAIs. I hope they will release the web search api as a standalone API.
    • ytxm 22 minutes ago
      I gave it a kick and got mixed results. For example, searching for a Microsoft product couldn't find its landing page, and searching for a niche open source package landed in the Debian repos for the top hits, but the home page was in the first 10 hits.

      Lovely to see they're doing their own search though, I love how many folk are actively working on search clones at the moment.

    • alex-moon 57 minutes ago
      I may be missing something so apologies if I'm telling you something you already know but: there are plenty of web search APIs for agents - the Brave one is the one I use: https://brave.com/search/api/
      • mmmmbbbhb 39 minutes ago
        Tavily one is free, too. Easy to use cli with a skill.
  • nickludlam 37 minutes ago
    This and (the not quite yet open) Kimi K2.8 are my main coding engines, and I find them incredibly cost efficient. I find Deepseek in particular is really good with Svelte work.

    Right now I use each of them in their own respective coding harnesses, deepseek-harness and kimi-code, but I do wonder what they are like inside something like opencode.

  • epolanski 11 minutes ago
    Is it already updated to the newest version on Opencode?
  • epolanski 8 minutes ago
    By far my favorite model.

    At the beginning of the month I realized I had more tokens and more capabilities on Opencode at 8$/month via DS 4.1 flash, than I had on a 200$ account in June with the american providers.

    Literally both more tokens and capabilities than Opus 4.8/GPT 5.5.

    Even if you pay per token, you're still unlikely to outspend american providers.

  • LinusU 1 hour ago
  • hmontazeri 50 minutes ago
    My favorite model just got better. Gotta love what deepseek is doing
  • Onavo 1 hour ago
    Performance charts and benchmarks are here:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepSeek/comments/1x84wke/deepseek_...

  • xutwa 2 minutes ago
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  • jdw64 1 hour ago
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