9 comments

  • squidmaster 11 minutes ago
    Israel has been a nexus of cybercrime for as long as they've been on the internet at all.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Download_Valley

  • throw0101c 18 minutes ago
  • andunie 34 minutes ago
    Turns out Google killing Android privacy was completely useless as a way to prevent people from being hacked, but they might use this type of stuff to justify even more closing of supposedly "free" paltforms.

    Likewise, using privacy messengers like Signal is also useless if they can just take control of your entire device anytime they want.

    • hotelsacher 14 minutes ago
      > useless as a way to prevent people from being hacked

      From being hacked by others. Google was just trying to protect their property, which is the ability to spy on their users' every move. Google themselves really don't need to "hack" their users for that, they already have all the access and all the data they could ever want. And they also have the ability to brick their users' devices at a moment's notice the same as Apple does.

    • user43928 17 minutes ago
      I'm sure Google's latest push to make it inconvenient to install apps from outside Google's Playstore, where Google charges a 30% commission, is going to solve that.
  • amelius 29 minutes ago
    It's fun to see adtech digging a hole for themselves ...
    • classified 24 minutes ago
      If only! I think we can no longer afford to ignore all these security threats and should make online advertising wholesale illegal. But I won't hold my breath.
      • ModernMech 4 minutes ago
        The ads are getting insane, they're trying to fill every bit of space you can look with ads. You go to a restaurant there's ads on your placemat. You go to the grocery store there's ads in your cart. They put chargers in the parking lot so now there's ads out there.

        Streaming services used to be bad enough with ads in the shows, now they put an ad on the screen when you pause it. Peacock just started putting ads in the login screen.

        If we don't stop this, pretty soon they're going to have ads in the stars as satellite constellations arrange themselves to sell you Twitter subscriptions. They're not going to stop even when there's an ad no matter where you look.

  • iugtmkbdfil834 25 minutes ago
    Looking at the bright side, we might just be able to make people really dislike ads.
    • hotelsacher 6 minutes ago
      For those who haven't learned their lesson yet, I doubt anything could move the needle.
  • hn_submit 13 minutes ago
    I doubt it's that easy to click on a link and install malware without the user knowing. Most browsers are highly secure and finding a zero day isn't that easy these days because both sides use A.I. to find vulnerabilities and to secure against them.
    • iamnothere 8 minutes ago
      It’s not “easy”, it requires a complex infrastructure of exploit devs (who can sell their findings for millions in some cases) and the companies who package these exploits together with implants and sell them.

      https://www.packetlabs.net/posts/demystifying-the-market-for...

    • oulipo 4 minutes ago
      "Most browsers are highly secure"... erm no
    • LtWorf 9 minutes ago
      One side uses AI to find them. The other side probably needs to keep the holes open for NSA, as the multiple 0 click root exploits that happened in the past to the iPhone with very similar techniques suggest.
  • fergie 37 minutes ago
    How does this actually work? Are they talking about browser fingerprinting or something else?
    • andunie 28 minutes ago
      Looks like it's much worse, they get more information due to exploits, and they can take full control of your machine.

      Article on the CitizenLab website: https://citizenlab.ca/research/how-discover-tech-turned-targ...

    • beel 32 minutes ago
    • pelagicAustral 27 minutes ago
      There is a tinfoil narrative that suggest that entire formats are in bed with intelligence services. It sounds pretty wild, but other zero-click attack vectors have been possible through sabotaging the parsing of file formats. ie. send a message -> hacked. How? the message wasnt even opened. How is, an app like Messenger receives a photo attachment binary, tries to unpack it and in doing so receives an instruction that stops the parser and executes arbitrary instructions.
      • Betelbuddy 14 minutes ago
        Go to LinkedIn, and check how many ex Unit 8200 (a group you never really quit until you are 50)...work for the Apple iOS dev team...
      • oulipo 1 minute ago
        It's routine for apps like Messenger to pre-download attachments (eg to compute a resized preview of the image etc)
      • donutdonot 16 minutes ago
        With all the AI decompilation going on would it not be possible to find these things in the binary by now?
    • room606 33 minutes ago
    • oulipo 2 minutes ago
      They use ad network to try to target individual user visiting a page (eg you know your target is a male, 60 years old, living in that area, with a few other checks you can almost uniquely identify your target)

      Then the ad network delivers a targeted ad that exploits a vulnerability (eg a broken JPEG decoder that, when sent a bad image, allows to run arbitrary code on your machine), and from there you have access to the computer

    • reactordev 34 minutes ago
      If I had to ponder a guess…

      It’s to do with hiding malware/spyware in an image which ends up in your cache on device. I can’t go much further into details but all this takes is for you to visit a site that serves it via ad network.

      Israel has been known to have some sneaky spyware in the past with Pegasus.

    • chunkyslink 26 minutes ago
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  • freakynit 4 minutes ago
    Of course, who else could it be.
  • andunie 36 minutes ago
    Do ad blockers protect against this?
    • Lio 30 minutes ago
      > Reuters has reported that billions of dollars’ worth of Meta’s ad revenue comes from ads for scams, illegal gambling, pornography and other banned content. In the US, ICE and other government agencies have bought software that uses ad tech data to track people’s movements.

      I don't know if an ad blocker protects against Discover-Tech’s Controlium but in general you'd be a fool to allow ads in your browser in at this point. The ad industry is pretty shady all round.

    • c16 13 minutes ago
      On web, likely. If it's in app mobile then no. Run a DNS ad blocker.
    • chunkyslink 21 minutes ago
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