6 comments

  • ArtTimeInvestor 32 minutes ago
    Hardware wallets are not a solution to self-custody.

    If one would make a list of things that can go wrong, starting from the supply chain that delivers parts to the manufacturer, malicious employees at the manufacturer, mistakes the manufacturer can make, attacks on the delivery chain from the manufacturer to the user, to mistakes the user can make creating, using and storing their keys - the list would contain hundreds of points.

    • embedding-shape 1 minute ago
      > Hardware wallets are not a solution to self-custody.

      Nothing in this world tends to be "the solution", everything has tradeoffs.

      Say you want to do self-custody, what is then the best option? "Don't do self-custody" obviously isn't the solution, as the core use case here is self-custody, so what in your opinion is a better way, than hardware wallets?

      If there is nothing better today than hardware wallets, then for now, they are "one of the better solutions" for how to do self-custody, even with the current tradeoffs. But again, I'm eager to hear what the alternatives are.

    • akoboldfrying 10 minutes ago
      Yes, but this threat analysis also holds for laptops and phones.

      What do you use to access your bank account online? I use my laptop, or my phone.

      • kasey_junk 6 minutes ago
        If your money is stolen from a bank account via fraud you have recourse to get it back, and it’s pretty straightforward to do in most cases.
        • SXX 1 minute ago
          Very often this is not the case. Debit / credit cards payments are quite reversible, but once a person send $100,000 or even $10,000 to a scammer it can be quite hard to recover.
    • chinathrow 19 minutes ago
      But freedom.

      Seriously, that's why we have banks, still.

      • iammrpayments 0 minutes ago
        Good luck trying send money abroad or dealing with a sudden unexplained account shutdown.
  • Neywiny 7 minutes ago
    My gut reaction is that a hardware implant would be too costly so there's no way they'd actually do that but I guess when you can steal $92M, anything is possible. They could even fab an esoteric chip and still make a profit.
  • chinathrow 34 minutes ago
    Exhibit #9387434 for reasons to stay out of crypto.
  • Cytobit 35 minutes ago
    What is the use case of a hardware cryptocurrency wallet besides trapping bitcoins in the Shadow Realm?
    • numpad0 17 minutes ago
      Like any HSMs, to put private keys in it and to let things be signed with it.
    • mitxela 22 minutes ago
      Making sure malware on your PC can't steal your private keys.
  • astverskoy 18 minutes ago
    Crypto is a gift to scammers: billions stolen, victims left with little recourse, and no effective government oversight.
    • dgellow 8 minutes ago
      And yet on this exact website people critical of the industry were ridiculed with the exact same rhetoric adopted by the AI industry. It was touted by so many as inevitable, and how we will all be left behind if we don’t join the cult
  • wartywhoa23 27 minutes ago
    Crypto-brwned!