How to Build Wealth as a Career Person

(asheradeniyi.com)

49 points | by doppp 2 hours ago

16 comments

  • GMoromisato 44 minutes ago
    I've more or less followed this advice, and it's worked out for me. For the most part, I used my salary to pay for expenses and stock compensation to build up wealth.

    The tricky part is that a lot of this advice is situation-dependent. Should you switch to a riskier company that offers a higher compensation? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Should you work late to accomplish goals hoping to get a promotion? It depends.

    So how are we supposed to know what to do?

    The answer, in my opinion, is people. You have to trust people who are trustworthy and avoid people who are not. As an employee, your success depends on the people who hired you--they are the ones who can promote you or cheat you. The best leaders are the ones who realize that helping you advance is going to help them advance. Help your boss accomplish their corporate goals and they will promote you--not as a reward, but as a bet that you will help them on the next goal.

    Bad leaders are either too selfish (fail to promote you) or too incompetent (unable to rise, even with your help). You need to learn to avoid them.

    Therefore, my advice is this: Look at the leaders in your company--people who could plausibly hire you. Which ones are the best bets? Which ones have both the talent and the integrity to succeed? If you're lucky there's more than one and you can work to get on their team. If you're unlucky, there are none and you need to find a different company.

    • spwa4 5 minutes ago
      Problem with this is that this can get you to 1-5 million in net worth (declining fast, someone joining a FANG now certainly won't make it as a single contributor to 5 million, unless they're truly exceptional) (of course 5 million effectively pays you a relatively high level FANG salary just from 4% safe investments ...)

      Maybe you can get to 50 million with a reasonable management career.

      But let's say you're on this path and you have 3 million or so, at 35/40 years ... then what? Management at all costs? No reasonable job at a FANG will get you to even just double what you have at that point.

    • brcmthrowaway 28 minutes ago
      Do you sell your stocks immediately and reinvest in SPY?
      • GMoromisato 18 minutes ago
        I put half in a basket of tech stock (QQQ, etc.) the other half in buying a house. I am not an expert, so don't take my investment advice--do your own research.
  • ghm2180 8 minutes ago
    What's weird about this article is none of it is technically wrong: "Become a cheetah(super at ___)", "Aspire and engage to be better", "Build 6 types of capital". They are not bad things to do, if you can: and that is what it misses, if you can.

    But don't feel bad if you have not been able to do any of them, e.g. Most People with kids can often do very little than job and take care of kids and that's it. What is more important is to not beat yourself up about it, give yourself grace and do one or two things that make you and your near and dear people/pets happy.

  • softwaredoug 14 minutes ago
    One thing - your expenses will ALWAYS somewhow expand to your income. We see our current income as somehow the steady state long term norm. I would do your absolute best to hide extra income from your day to day self and invisibly invest it in a way you don’t even think about

    And when you get a windfall (stock grants, acquisitions, etc) unless it’s truly life changing money where you never have to work again, find a good investor (CFP) to manage so you’re not even thinking about it. Or invest it in some future liability like college expenses, home down payment, retirement, etc.

  • golly_ned 25 minutes ago
    I'd add or emphasize being strategic about which roles within an organization are rewarded. These are usually roles with very clearly attributable impact to top-line or bottom-line metrics.

    Much enablement, unblocking, capability-based, or risk reduction work is very difficult to interpret for the business decision-makers.

  • UnhappyMeaning 1 hour ago
    I've come across co-workers who make +$250K in salary who live paycheck-to-paycheck...

    1. Alimony

    2. Child support

    • jasondigitized 0 minutes ago
      From Buffett: Keep your first house and your first wife.
    • darepublic 48 minutes ago
      Alimony alimony paying your bills.. when your conscience hits you knock it back with pills
  • kpil 16 minutes ago
    Step 1 - don't buy a boat.
  • thi2 13 minutes ago
    Be sure to talk about your achievements. As important as making things work is making sure the right people know you did that.
  • wepple 38 minutes ago
    I’m going to go against most of the comments here (negative) and say that there are a ton of wise nuggets in this article.

    Specifically pieces about how to be valuable in a pragmatic and honest way.

  • kneel25 31 minutes ago
    Damn, brutally true. If you've seen it, you've seen it, it plays out exactly as written here. Taking it as advice doesn't put you on their level though, their gift is incredible instinct hence why they do everything here without it.
  • powerbroker 1 hour ago
    I know two engineers who worked their way to becoming centi-millionaires. One worked for the same company his entire life. Another looked at every job as feeding a 'system' of a) co-workers; b) clients; c) the economy.

    Probably the single best take-away from the article is to never stop learning. I also like the tip about keep networking and building relationships.

    • layer8 22 minutes ago
      > centi-millionaires

      Don’t you mean hecto-millionaires? Otherwise it’s not so impressive. ;)

  • epolanski 24 minutes ago
    That's more of a "build a career", than "build wealth".
  • medellin 1 hour ago
    A lot of words to say “save money”. Remove the wealth aspect from this and it’s a good article for people early in their career though
    • golly_ned 25 minutes ago
      80%+ of the article is not 'save money'. It's nuanced.
    • tekla 59 minutes ago
      Woah, you can't do that. It only requires only no effort to save money when you have tech salaries.
      • ataru 49 minutes ago
        I've got to admit, the most difficult part of saving money is that first you need to be able to comfortably afford your basic expenses, in particular, housing.
        • bluGill 6 minutes ago
          No, the most difficult part is it's so easy to want to live beyond your means. Take a look around your city. If it's anything like mine, you will find people who are working fast food jobs and you'll find other people who are both are doctors making over half a million dollars a year and yet, at the end of the month, both are having troubles finding enough money to pay all the bills. Unless you are at the very bottom of that, you are already living beyond what need. I don't blame you for wanting more, but be honest, you are spending more money than you need to.
        • Pragmata 19 minutes ago
          It's not that difficult.

          If you live anywhere in the developed world, and you are reasonably able bodied, you can certainly save sufficient money for your long term needs.

          there is maybe 1% of the population who can't do it, for everyone else it's a choice.

      • Danox 43 minutes ago
        It requires relatively no effort just discipline for anyone to save money and live within their means. yet, most don’t most always have an excuse. Within the design and engineering department that I worked in more than half of the people did not save always had an excuse even before they were married and had kids.

        Just setting aside 25% over time adds up to a sizable amount.

        • bluGill 8 minutes ago
          25% is a huge amount. Yes, it adds up. Over time, you don't get me wrong. But you need to ask, should you do that much?

          Everyone will die, despite great medical advances over the past century. Someone who lives past 5 and doesn't die in childbirth, or an accident - only got a couple years of life expectancy. You should be thinking of saving money as this is something we're going to spend in the future. The goal is not to get the most money on paper. The goal is to... Well, you figure out your own goals. I don't know the right answer for you, but to try and enjoy life with the money you make.

        • icedchai 14 minutes ago
          Most people don't have that discipline. If you asked the average person to "just" save 25% of their earnings, they'd look at you like you had two heads.
  • yieldcrv 1 hour ago
    psyop, nobody is falling for it

    but I think there is a crowd that rejects too many of the basics at their own detriment. yes, getting work, highly valued work, still helps and helps waaay more reliably for a broader population than other methods, but its just a step. So you still need to do that, You also need to parlay earnings into wealth producing assets, assets that also have their own independent value that is intended to grow.

  • wg0 1 hour ago
    Yeah right.
  • brcmthrowaway 29 minutes ago
    This is all good advice... but just browsing X, the salaries folks are pulling down give me incredible FOMO.. early 20s already achieving generational wealth just spending 1-2 years in the right startup or frontier lab.

    ..and this doesn't include hustlers in Dubai or some other tax haven earning six figures a month doing various schemes.

    Why am I wasting my life?

    • golly_ned 24 minutes ago
      They represent the ~99%+ of income. X is large enough that extremes are represented. Don't be fooled by the extremes.

      Go after the achievable P75-P90 that's within your power.

    • plasticchris 27 minutes ago
      Why do you think your life is wasted if some computer has a smaller number next to your name?
      • Madmallard 8 minutes ago
        If you have generational wealth you can spend all your time traveling, hanging out with people no matter where they are in the world, having new experiences and just generally encounter way more there is to the world than you ever could working 60 hours a week for minimum wage in your hometown. You never have to worry about expenses for anything, you can hire maids and other professionals to take care of other things that would otherwise take up your time. Almost every single woman you ever meet likely will try to get in on it so if you want to casually have a lot of sex with beautiful women you can do that too. You are given a strong preference socially in any setting you meet others. If you have a health problem you can see your genius concierge physician who will personally try to help you the best you can be helped. You don't have to wait 6 weeks for an x-ray or CT scan on a cancerous tumor that can switch from stage 3 to 4 right in that time period.

        It's really not even comparable to the life that normal people have. It's really sad.

  • thereitgoes456 1 hour ago
    What an insulting article.

    > There is a popular idea that substantial wealth belongs mainly to entrepreneurs.

    This is probably because 24yo college dropouts are achieving billion dollar valuations after 12 months of work. Their secondary sales are worth more than following all the advice in this article will be for your entire life.

    (To say nothing of NVDA, SpaceX, or other big tech acquiring them and making their billions liquid, despite no moat or profitability, just because they have so much money and need to spend it on something.)

    No matter how much “grit” you have, you’re still at the mercy of such people, as e.g. the engineers at Windsurf were, who worked super hard but their founders sold to Google, walked away with hundreds of millions, and gave the employees nothing.

    Of course, it depends on your meaning of “substantial”. Successful engineers have great wealth too, enough that they can be very happy and buy anything they want. But pretending the two levels are comparable is silly.

    • brcmthrowaway 29 minutes ago
      Does this perspective come from a founder or a rank and file engineer?