11 comments

  • andsoitis 30 minutes ago
    One solution is to put them in space, leaving more room and resources for humans and wildlife.
    • vjvjvjvjghv 23 minutes ago
      If space doesn't work or is deemed too expensive put them right next to the house where the CEO of the company and his family live. Same with nuclear plants, rocket launch sites and chemical plants.
    • Avicebron 22 minutes ago
      Why don't we just put them where the people who want them live?
    • bastawhiz 24 minutes ago
      As soon as we figure out how to build a practical and cost effective way to radiate megawatts of heat in a vacuum I'm sure we will!
    • Terr_ 22 minutes ago
      While that "solution" is, er, not strictly impossible, it still falls into the subcategory of "utterly insane", once one looks at the real tonnages and watts and dollars and engineering problems.

      It was never a serious proposal, it's just some zillionaire's daydream about having their own Neuromancer-style space-station, a place where their word is law and their dynasty assured by a pet superintelligence.

      The only "data-center in space" we're likely to see will be tiny low-power satellites, offering themselves as extraterritorial hosting for stuff like an oligarch's ill-gotten crypto-currency.

    • paulrenshaw 14 minutes ago
      this is the way!

      one of the biggest threats to AI accelerationism longterm is the public rioting or foreign governments launching attacks against data centers

      the plebians won't be able to burn the data centers if you put them in space though.

    • ThePowerOfFuet 9 minutes ago
      Heat radiation by convection doesn't work great in a vacuum.
    • 1970-01-01 17 minutes ago
      And yet no proof-of-concept has been attempted. Just another Elon saying at this point.
      • asdff 14 minutes ago
        There’s already datacenters in space though. Does starlink not count as a datacenter? What, their nodes are too small by modern standards? It is still a networked array of compute nodes, in space, currently operating.
        • 1970-01-01 10 minutes ago
          No, a satellite is not a datacenter. The suffix is center. Example: A WAN is not a datacenter, it is a network.
    • tEem21 25 minutes ago
      "Our researchers were so busy working out whether they could, noone stopped to wonder whether they should"
    • cyanydeez 28 minutes ago
      Another solution is to pray to the sun god for the wisdom of the universe.
  • SLHamlet 16 minutes ago
    BTW this data is drawn from a US map of the entire US data center built-out, county by county:

    https://pressaudit.org/blog/datacenters

  • downrightmike 2 minutes ago
    Data centers are only going up near populations because the DCs want the community to pay for all the infrastructure upgrades and higher rates.

    If the DCs had to go it alone, wait who are we kidding? They never even thought of that path, it's all about how to push the costs on to locals. They want all the freebies they can get.

    They bring nothing to the table

  • arjie 22 minutes ago
    Find this quite funny overall. In the end Loudoun and Santa Clara get cheap power and lower property taxes than otherwise because they host so many datacenters. It’s pretty good that local policy leads to such good outcomes for people. Huge fan of this structure.

    The policy-outcome feedback loop should be tight. People rapidly adapt when that happens.

    Fortunately site selection is still possible and construction teams are still well occupied. America’s fortunate to enter a period with such clean industry. Dropping the ball here would have been so foolish.

  • tbojanin 20 minutes ago
    what are the pros and cons of having a data center in your county? and does it actually change residents day to day lives in any noticeable way?
  • jmuguy 21 minutes ago
    Depends on the datacenter. If SpaceX etc weren't intent on cutting corners with illegal natural gas generators and trying to trick locals there wouldn't be any push back. Its not like we started building these things in the last couple of years. I've been to plenty of data centers that no one even knew were data centers because they weren't the size of Manhattan and spewing out tons of noise pollution.
  • _doctor_love 31 minutes ago
    People aren't "Republicans" or "Democrats" or whatever. They're people. Of course "Republican support" collapses in communities once you start asking people what they want.

    [EDIT: damn. y'all in the comments. whoosh]

    • vjvjvjvjghv 26 minutes ago
      "People aren't "Republicans" or "Democrats" "

      You would wish but it's way too prevalent to call oneself "Republican" or "Democrat" and promise lifetime loyalty. Take almost anything they are mad about when the "other" side does it and ask how they'd feel if "their" side did it.

      • _doctor_love 13 minutes ago
        > it's way too prevalent to call oneself "Republican" or "Democrat" and promise lifetime loyalty.

        Where?!? I have travelled all over the USA and I have never a met a person like this.

    • mock-possum 28 minutes ago
      Careful about not believing people when they tell you what they are.
      • _doctor_love 28 minutes ago
        Your statement literally means nothing. It's not even making an argument.
        • jsbisviewtiful 21 minutes ago
          The comment makes perfect sense, especially given the current political climate of the US and what Republicans are clearly indicating they want... Not sure what you are on about.
          • andsoitis 18 minutes ago
            People who get lumped into broad categories don’t all agree on all matters.
        • Retric 25 minutes ago
          You’re rejecting people who self identified as Republicans for not being Republicans.

          You can reject the category of Republicans in all situations or zero situations but doing so only some of the time is not a defensible position.

        • newCrotchSmell 24 minutes ago
          With respect it's also possible you are not as literate as you want to believe

          Don't disregard what people tell you they will do because they are "just people"

          Project 2025 been admitting their goals for years but they're just people they would never, right?

  • freecodeio 33 minutes ago
    only politicians are delusional enough to think people will support datacenters in their county
  • tonetheman 38 minutes ago
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