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  • robmusial 52 minutes ago
    I literally just finished Annie Jacobsen's book 'Biological War: A Scenario' last week where the central plot point is an accidental release of modified form of pneumonic plague from a lab in Siberia. Very coincidental timing, especially since it made me wonder how often labs like these have accidents and we never hear about them because it is cleaned up without issue.
    • petcat 32 minutes ago
      > made me wonder how often labs like these have accidents and we never hear about them because it is cleaned up without issue.

      Did anyone ever confirm if the lab in Wuhan China was the originator of COVID? I remember that was a rumor but never heard if there was anything to it.

      • lumost 26 minutes ago
        I recently heard a scientist use a phrase something along the lines of “when two extraordinarily improbably events occur together, there is probably a connection”.

        We’ll never know if the lab in Wuhan originated the virus. But it is awfully strange that the first patients of a novel pandemic coronavirus were workers at a lab conducting gain of function research on coronavirus.

      • potatoproduct 9 minutes ago
        Chinas actions following the event includes the destruction of evidence, refusal of access and using the WHO as their personal mouthpiece. Unless history is rewritten too, every textbook should clearly point to China.
      • mvlipwig 28 minutes ago
        It's difficult to say for sure, but the consensus is leaning towards zoonotic origin from a bat or pangolin in a wet market. (I'm not very well researched on this topic and don't have any formal background in it, so hedge accordingly)
      • chihuahua 23 minutes ago
        All the evidence was destroyed (probably just a coincidence, LOL), so it can't be proved either way.
      • hansvm 27 minutes ago
        Last I saw, plausible, unconfirmed, nobody is willing/able to provide enough information to be able to confirm one way or another.
      • felixg3 23 minutes ago
        Pretty much confirmed by western intelligence including the German BND
        • gruez 17 minutes ago
          Source?
          • theoreticalmal 6 minutes ago
            Copy and paste this into Google: Wuhan lab leak fbi
      • alexnewman 21 minutes ago
        I get downvoted every time I say this but the evidence doesn’t even prove it started in wuhan, or even China. It could of easily been brought here by the military games that happened before that
    • DJBunnies 40 minutes ago
      How’d it turn out, are we boned?
      • robmusial 36 minutes ago
        No spoilers but Jacobsen's scenario books don't end with "and society came together, acted rationally, and solved the problem!"
      • Betelbuddy 38 minutes ago
        Netflix ends up the series after Season 1, just after your are emotionally invested...
    • gazpachotron 35 minutes ago
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  • helsinkiandrew 54 minutes ago
    So breaks a test tube of live bacteria at an “anti-plague institute”, possible infects 100 colleagues, then when she developed plague like symptoms is taken to hospital and possibly infects 100 patients.

    I think they need to investigate their safety protocols

    > She reportedly told medical staff that she had accidentally broken a test tube containing live bacteria while collecting samples for testing.

    > At least 197 people who may have had contact with her were reportedly placed under medical isolation, including more than 100 in hospital wards.

    • hliyan 37 minutes ago
      Was this a glass test tube? I understand why glass is probably the best material for the inner lining of containers that hold biological material, but I'm surprised that there aren't better solutions for hazardous material (e.g. an unbreakable, transparent polymer outer coating).
      • doodlesdev 6 minutes ago
        I believe the biggest reason to use glass is that it doesn't react with much stuff, but I've yet to see an explanation for why your idea wouldn't work. I imagine there could be problems with autoclaves (i.e. degradation of the polymer) and fear of chemical leaching.
    • smsm42 2 minutes ago
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  • abnry 59 minutes ago
    How often does this sort of thing happen? I'm guessing more than we think, either because we forget the news stories we read or because it isn't reported.
    • dnautics 43 minutes ago
      There was a COVID 19 lab leak in Taiwan about a year into the pandemic.

      https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/news/4374289

      Six errors contributed to this leak.

    • breadzeppelin__ 41 minutes ago
      Bubonic plague is known to be active in Colorado, I think there are a handful of cases each year
      • dreamcompiler 13 minutes ago
        If you live in the Rocky Mountains try to avoid close contact with prairie dogs or animal carcasses and you'll be fine. If you catch it, get to a hospital quickly and take the antibiotics and you'll probably be fine. If you delay treatment you should use that time to get your affairs in order.
    • jmyeet 54 minutes ago
      Janet Parker was the last person to die of smallpox and, yes, she caught it in a lab [1].

      [1]: https://whyy.org/segments/the-tragic-case-of-smallpoxs-final...

  • hn_throwaway_99 52 minutes ago
    > The woman was identified as Daria Sh., a 27- or 28-year-old employee of the Irkutsk anti-plague institute, by the exiled news outlet Lyudi Baikala (People of Baikal) and pro-Kremlin broadcaster REN TV.

    > She reportedly told medical staff that she had accidentally broken a test tube containing live bacteria while collecting samples for testing.

    This is just weird. Plague is easily treated if antibiotics are given right away. I'm shocked that an anti-plague institute wouldn't have detailed and proactive plans in case of mishaps. Obviously I think it's likely that there is more to it than what's reported in the article, but I would find it truly baffling if within 60 seconds of her breaking that test tube that protocols weren't initiated to protect her, her colleagues and the community.

    Of course, Russia...

    • mrkstu 13 minutes ago
      I'm assuming if its a bio-lab that its a gain of function version that may be immune to conventional antibiotics.

      Actually went to a scout camp as a teenager (in the 80s) and one of our scouts got the plauge. Took a long while for the hospital to identify it and get him on heavy antibiotics because no one had seen it in real life before.

  • aaron695 22 minutes ago
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