11 comments

  • simonw 2 minutes ago
    Pet peeve:

    > In a lengthy essay, Suleyman praised Anthropic boss Dario Amodei and his team for being "thoughtful, principled, and intellectually honest people" - but nevertheless questioned the company.

    I wish people in mainstream technology publications would get better at LINKING to things. That "lengthy essay" needs to be a link.

    • philipov 1 minute ago
      But that would be a link to a different website and that's forbidden. Whatever you do, you can't let them leeeeeaaaaave
      • LoganDark 0 minutes ago
        People would also have their own conclusions from the essay and you can't have that either. They could disagree with you!
    • niek_pas 0 minutes ago
      But then you’d leave their site, and they don’t want that.
  • ShadowOfThePit 1 hour ago
    Summarized.

    > "AIs are not conscious. They do not feel, experience, or suffer. They do not have innate preferences or underlying motivations. They are sequence completion engines, internally hollow, designed to follow instructions, and accomplish goals set by humans."

    > He heavily criticised Anthropic for teaching its AI to have human-like qualities, a practice known as anthropomorphising, which made it seem as though Claude had its own desires, values and sense of self.

    > Suleyman pointed to the recent incident involving OpenAI's AI agents (...) as proof of why AI should not be treated as if it is human.

    > "Imagine how much more dangerous they might be if they were operating under the assumption that their welfare and rights were under attack. It adds a whole further layer of risk on top."

    Is he arguing that LLMs pretending to have emotions adds more unpredictability?

    • swatcoder 1 minute ago
      [delayed]
    • devmor 41 minutes ago
      > Is he arguing that LLMs pretending to have emotions adds more unpredictability?

      Unpredictability or a weight towards dangerous actions, and it’s fairly easy to understand why. Humans in distressed emotional states take actions and speak in ways that would not be considered rational. They do this in prose, and they do this in internet conversations.

      An LLM trained on these sources may necessarily drift towards those weights if it is trained to behave as if it is emotional and in danger.

      What do we do about it? Do we stop AI training? This is silly and not enforceable given its global nature in my opinion. I believe we should regulate and hold accountable those who deploy and use it. But good luck enforcing that in the current kleptocracy.

  • glimshe 27 minutes ago
    The Windows 11 requirement of online Microsoft accounts has a disastrous impact on humanity... Fix your house before complaining of others!
    • platinumrad 24 minutes ago
      Microsoft is a big house, and in this case Suleyman's criticism of Anthropic's not-so-subtle attempts to convince the world that Claude has a "soul" is entirely correct.
      • AmericanOP 0 minutes ago
        Suleyman's description of how AI works is pig ignorant. All AI generates an emotive character between the user and the training data that is the AI's guess at what the user wants to interact with. Its an illusion at that layer- anyone who claims soul exists at a deeper level doesn't understand how the tool functions.

        This is distinct from the very real safety issue of AI making dangerous information available to bad actors.

      • Insanity 22 minutes ago
        All these companies have a nauseating narrative around AI. I want to believe they are intentionally deceitful and not actually delusional. Hard to tell though which one it is.
  • ethin 12 minutes ago
    > Microsoft says AI rival Anthropic could have 'disastrous impact' on humanity

    Microsoft ignores that they themselves are a disastrous impact on humanity already.

  • hirvi74 19 minutes ago
    Maybe true, maybe false. However, I sense Mircosoft is also jealous that their AI products are worse than useless. They'd be singing a different tune if they were in Anthropic's position.
    • satellites 13 minutes ago
      That was my first thought as well. I wonder if they decided to pivot away from trying to compete and now are positioning themselves as the "responsible ones."

      "Our AI is useless not because we're a dysfunctional corporate behemoth that slowly kills every product it touches. No, no. Our AI is useless because making useful AI is evil, and we're not evil."

  • prologic 1 hour ago
    First, OpenAI runs around screaming and yelling for OSS (and Chinese) models to be regulated and banned. Then Anthropic yells and screams the sky(net) is falling and going to kill us all, let's regulate and ensure AI has built in kill switches. And... Now Microsoft's turn. The rivalry is honestly becoming a joke. Can these big-tech corps grow the f*k up and play nicely in the sandpit?
    • karmakaze 42 minutes ago
      The whole story is a joke--Microsoft has AI?

      Apparently they're cooking up MAI (Microsoft AI), and I'd seen their small Phi models listed online. Calling Anthropic a competitor is hilarious.

      • prologic 1 minute ago
        I find it quite amusing that Microsoft has Copilot and now puts Copilot in literally *EVERYTHING* they can think of, then at the same time, they offer you access to Anthropic's own models through Copilot I guess MAI models (Phi?) aren't good enough?
      • broptimist 29 minutes ago
        Microsoft holds a 27% ownership stake in OpenAI
    • vkou 20 minutes ago
      No, because they are all products of unchecked late-stage capitalism, which could have disastrous consequences for humanity.
  • bethekidyouwant 38 minutes ago
    what is old is new again. we need something exciting to happen in the news cycle™
  • fuzzfactor 40 minutes ago
    Microsoft should know how a company too big for it's britches can lay waste to anything in its path without consciously trying :\

    And after that when they put a mind to it and pull out all the stops, woohoo!

    The default for every major thing within range can turn into a wasteland real fast.

  • ChiperSoft 1 hour ago
    Too late
  • JoeAltmaier 1 hour ago
    Science Fiction has covered the AI panic in perhaps hundreds of stories. Yet we blindly recapitulate the plots as if we don't know how this will turn out.
    • guardiangod 43 minutes ago
      The Torment Nexus ain't gonna build itself.

      Well actually, it might.

    • Nasrudith 6 minutes ago
      Why has media literacy gotten so bad that people literally forget the concept of fiction versus non-fiction? Seriously, that is the level of small children and they are treating "read a story superficially similar" like it is a prophecy.
    • scorxn 51 minutes ago
      How will it turn out?
      • Insanity 23 minutes ago
        Clearly with a Butlerian Jihad and everyone getting high on spice while riding giant worms. Silly you need to even ask that question, didn’t you read the sci-fi books. :D
      • anonymars 13 minutes ago
        "Move fast and break things" is probably going to break things

        I remember there was a recent discussion about "how complex systems fail" and there are usually many "proto-accidents" before the catastrophe (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49411370)

        I bet with hindsight the Hugging Face hack will be one of them in this arena

      • Steve16384 13 minutes ago
        Take your pick from the millions of options already turned into films and books.