11 comments

  • cm2187 27 minutes ago
    Excellent. From now on all kids will become linux natives. The decade of the linux desktop is coming!
    • thelastgallon 2 minutes ago
      Linux phones, Linux gaming machines, Linux on Desktop and Laptops, Linux VR/AR, Linux watches, etc.
  • anigbrowl 1 hour ago
    Weird how the people who habitually complain about government are conspicuously silent when it delivers something they wanted.
    • Frannky 11 minutes ago
      A lot of people are not stupid. Age verification is a backdoor for control. I read and did not even bother to comment, it's like yay, that horrendous thing they were trying to do now it's not applied to everyone. I'm also sorry for California, such a beautiful place and full of wonderful people. I hope it will recover one day.
    • missinglugnut 38 minutes ago
      What do you want people to say? "Yay, the terrible law that threatened to make free computing illegal has an exemption for Linux. Now we only have to deal with unwanted mandatory age verification on all our non-linux devices. I'm so happy."
    • throwawayqqq11 26 minutes ago
      This is not wanted, its duct taping a bad idea even further and i half-wish MS/apple/co sue against it. This may cause lawmakers to bounce back in the wrong direction though.
    • edot 1 hour ago
      Yeah, this is fantastic. Should be top of the page. I’m honestly shocked, I’ve fully internalized that everything is corrupt and beholden to big corporations. Somehow, a victory! Looks like the Linux Foundation and EFF pushed back, but they’re not exactly big. Good job, California lawmakers!
      • zoobab 52 minutes ago
        Not a victory, Android is still covered.
        • qmarchi 50 minutes ago
          Hard to argue that it's open source...
          • catlikesshrimp 44 minutes ago
            Graphene should qualify. That would be a good incentive for kids to learn to root a mobile device and run graphene on it.
            • harvey9 1 minute ago
              I used the web based installer and it was so easy that we would be complaining the kids are not really learning anything by doing it!
    • Pavilion2095 29 minutes ago
      The age verification requirement wasn't dropped, what are you talking about? Linux getting an exemption isn't a win.
    • antonvs 38 minutes ago
      It delivered an arbitrary exception to a stupid law. If all someone wanted was an exception for Linux, they don’t understand the problem with this law.
      • cwillu 1 minute ago
        “California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law — software distributed under the GPL, MIT, BSD, and Apache licenses are exempt”
    • squigz 50 minutes ago
      Indeed, this is very generous of them, and we should be thankful.
      • catlikesshrimp 41 minutes ago
        Sounds more like they did their job well, not that they are generous.
  • gspr 18 minutes ago
    Rest of the headline: "software distributed under the GPL, MIT, BSD, and Apache licenses are exempt"

    And then further into the text it's clarified that there also isn't a specific list of open licenses, as the terrible headline would have you believe, but instead a description of what is considered open

    With the caveat that I haven't read the actual legal text, this seems to be an eminently sensible law (it'd be better if it weren't needed, but here we are).

    In summary: not a Linux exemption, and not an exemption for a specific list of licenses either.

  • phendrenad2 13 minutes ago
    I'm starting to warm up to this law. So many loopholes. Nothing to worry about. I think California's incompetence has finally progressed from "proposes bad laws" to "proposes and botches the implementation of bad laws"
  • conartist6 15 minutes ago
    I love that Microsoft is committing a crime by continuing to let me use Win10
  • catlikesshrimp 48 minutes ago
    Can someone the exemption for browser extensions and other contained software? My best guess is that the OS > Browser are reporting the age already, and the browser extensions will also use that "signal". Is this close enough?

    " third carve-out excludes storefronts distributing extensions or add-ons that run exclusively inside a host application, which takes browser extension stores out of scope."

  • ghssds 31 minutes ago
    And now a bunch of OSI-Approved licenses get to have special rules applied to them, entrenching them and killing further innovation.
    • greyface- 21 minutes ago
      The bill exempts:

      > a person or entity that distributes an operating system or application under license terms that permit a recipient to copy, redistribute, and modify the software

      which at least doesn't choose specific winners and losers among licenses. It does disfavor license-free and public domain software, which isn't great.

      • pritambaral 9 minutes ago
        > It does disfavor license-free and public domain software, which isn't great.

        Public domain software is free to "copy, redistribute, and modify", so ... where's the disfavour?

  • kersplody 1 hour ago
    Cool now let's exempt hobbyists from the 3-D printer must certify you are not printing gun parts pending legislation.
  • LogTrim 13 minutes ago
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  • hardwaresofton 1 hour ago
    AGPL…?