6 comments

  • jorl17 12 minutes ago
    I experimented with Hy3 for a project and was surprised with how good it was. I don't know if it's good for coding, but as a general purpose agentic model, it was only beaten by deepseek4-flash in our tests. It was so close to deepseek behaviour I kept thinking it must have been forked from it.
  • Zigurd 6 minutes ago
    Is anyone here working on a problem for which current generation LLMs are inadequate, but that could possibly be solved by the next release of a first tier LLM?

    Or is it like bicycles? Unless your problem is named Tadej, you don't need a $13,000 bike.

  • minimaxir 1 hour ago
    Hy4 apparently has ludicrous traction on OpenRouter already (https://openrouter.ai/tencent/hy4-preview), with trillions of tokens generated in a couple days: more than GLM 5.3 in a week. That said, it's relatively cheap with a 5% cache cost when everyone is still doing 10%/20% cache costs, so Hy4 may be more compelling.
    • martinald 26 minutes ago
      I wrote about this a couple of weeks ago. It's actually often the biggest cost and it tends to be hidden away on most platforms!

      https://martinalderson.com/posts/watch-out-for-cache-read-co...

      Btw I still haven't came across any decent model that is <$0.01/MTok cache costs apart from deepseek thru their official API (even with the price increases).

      Seems like a bit of an opportunity for someone to take - drop cache read costs significantly.

    • Dinux 24 minutes ago
      Which explains why almost none of my request go though
    • cyanydeez 1 hour ago
      i'd be curious if openrouter is just being gamed by these publishers by paying for the exposure.

      wouldn't trust they dont do Capitalism like the rest of the AI field.

      • drob518 20 minutes ago
        Of course they are. Of course they do. Nobody should be surprised by this.
      • tokai 16 minutes ago
        >dont do Capitalism like the rest of the AI field

        Like lobbying the US president to harm their competitors?

        • realo 10 minutes ago
          I would suggest "lobbying" is not the correct word to describe all the corruption going on in the current USA administration cesspool.
    • npn 39 minutes ago
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  • vcryan 42 minutes ago
    I used Hy3 quite a bit for the type of tasks it was suited for. Excited about this. My one concern over Hy3 was speed. In theory, it could be served much faster as a smaller model but it was relatively slow everywhere I could get it (including from Tencent directly) but also several other inference providers.
    • Topfi 36 minutes ago
      In my evals, I saw an unprecedented jump between preview and final release on Hy3, from unusable to competitive. Did you see similar in preview vs release version?
      • vcryan 15 minutes ago
        Oh yes! I forgot about that. Yes, you can see this in benchmarks about hy3 preview and hy3 release still today because they measured them separately - it was significant.
  • usernomdeguerre 17 minutes ago
    is it just me or are the bar charts in the blog post strange? Higher numbers don't seem to correspond correctly to their actual height?
  • onesandofgrain 12 minutes ago
    Go go China!