Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

(asahilinux.org)

105 points | by pizzaiolo 4 hours ago

8 comments

  • JLO64 2 hours ago
    > Thanks to the combined efforts of mildsunrise and chaos_princess, we discovered that ACE3 has pretty much the same register set as CD3217, only wrapped in a SPMI interface instead of addressed over I2C. Both the SPMI interface and ACE3 itself are now working in Asahi Linux, bringing USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt support to all M3 series devices.

    When I got my M3 Pro MBP, I got it with the intention of eventually installing Linux on it. In hindsight I seriously underestimated the amount of effort needed for even partial Linux compatibility, which makes me all the more grateful for the work Asahi contributors have put in! I'll still be keeping macOS installed for iOS dev work(which I plan on doing soonish), but other than that all I really need is a web browser and Ghostty with good battery life.

  • owaislone 1 hour ago
    This project has been so impressive and exciting. I hope power management is a serious concern once they nail all the reverse engineering and functionality. Battery life would be a huge differentiator for the day to day macbook usage and traditionally Linux has been terrible at that due to lack of proprietary & highly tuned drivers
  • djfergus 2 hours ago
    Fantastic to see the progress and a fascinating detailed write-up.

    You have to appreciate the effort Apple puts into security - goes some way to understanding why they won't endorse/support installing an alternative operating system.

    • LoganDark 2 hours ago
      Apple has gone through tremendous effort to enable alternative operating systems on Apple Silicon Macs: https://asahilinux.org/docs/platform/open-os-interop/
      • nvme0n1p1 15 minutes ago
        Are you sure you linked the right page? This looks like a list of workarounds the Asahi team had to figure out.
      • bigyabai 1 hour ago
        Most of those accommodations are for macOS, and make very few (if any) concessions for alternative operating systems. We're talking Qualcomm-tier effort.

        Intel and AMD set the standard for "tremendous effort" bringing up support for alternative OSes. Nvidia follows behind, and Apple's support is (somehow) behind Nvidia's foot-dragging.

        • HDBaseT 45 minutes ago
          This is true, although Apple could of just as easily prevented alternative OSes as a whole if they wanted to.
          • Rohansi 10 minutes ago
            They already have the ability to prevent alternative operating systems. They use the same or similar SoCs in their other product lines and those do not let you do this.

            Yes, Apple put effort into making it possible to install alternative operating systems on Macs, but that is an exception to the design because the chips are designed to be locked down. I expect Apple to remove the option at some point because nobody is using it on any of the recent hardware.

  • kmeisthax 9 minutes ago
    I was seriously worried the various incompatibilities the M3 bootloader had with Asahi's debugging setup would mean way slower bring-up than M1 and M2 had. Seems like that wasn't the case - or, at least, won't be the case anymore.
    • MBCook 2 minutes ago
      Seems like once they got past that things weren’t too bad. Could have been way more incompatibilities waiting on the other side.
  • MBCook 3 hours ago
    Amazing progress as usual. It’s been fun watching just how much a few people can accomplish over the last few years despite working on sometimes unstable sand.
  • megous 2 hours ago
    Yeah, you'll find out that va-api is not a good match for v4l2-requests. It does not pass decoded bitstream to the drivers as is, but pre-computes some things for some codecs, while v4l2-requests mostly expects original information parsed from the bitstream.

    https://xff.cz/git/libva-v4l2_request/

  • LoganDark 2 hours ago
    I'm extremely excited to hear that the hypervisor now works on M4! Can't wait to try out Asahi in a year or two.
  • tiahura 30 minutes ago
    macOS is so terrible. Godspeed!