4 comments

  • kator 49 minutes ago
    I think the most interesting thing is that it took 15 years for people to apparently take this seriously. And another 40 to recognize its impact. The original paper[1] was from 1982...

    Having been in software development for 45 years, I find this crazy. Maybe it's because in our world, it often takes a month for something to spread from "interesting" to the new technology of the day, or the new way of doing things.

    [1] https://www.jneurosci.org/content/jneuro/2/3/284.full.pdf

  • bambax 4 hours ago
    > Every memory begins with tiny changes inside the brain

    Maybe. But the brain is not the only place where memory is stored. Flat worms remember things (and skills!) after their head has been cut off and they regrew it:

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/these-decapita...

    • abc123abc123 42 minutes ago
      "Every memory begins with tiny changes inside the brain. A discovery that helped explain those changes has earned neuroscientist Oswald Steward one of science’s highest honors.

      Steward received the 2026 Kavli Prize in Neuroscience, a USD 1 million award and one of science’s most prestigious awards, for research that transformed scientists’ understanding of how the brain learns and stores memories."

      And that's what it took. One comment on hackernews and the prize was retracted. HN at its best! ;)

    • Earw0rm 3 hours ago
      Flatworms branched off our side of the animal tree of life very early on. They're on the same side as molluscs, some of whom (cephalopods) are famous for having a more distributed nervous system.

      Granted though many/most organs are stateful and somewhat adaptive - in a sense they'll "remember" what happened. Even plants possess that to varying degrees.

      • Roark66 2 hours ago
        Did you know human overies contain neurons? I suppose memories are not stored there :-) but still the fact is rather surprising.
        • adrianN 49 minutes ago
          I believe there are tastebuds in your colon too.
        • j45 2 hours ago
          The heart has neurons in it too.
    • IsTom 3 hours ago
      At least spinal cord has a kind of memory related to movement, but that's something else than episodic memory obviously.
    • Zardoz84 38 minutes ago
      We found that some kind of gigant unicelular life can remember where was food.
    • boston_clone 3 hours ago
      I think the evidence is strong, here. Quite difficult to form new memories without a brain!
  • Animats 4 hours ago
    Great result on the biochemistry of memory storage. Then they venture into philosophy: "They still struggle to explain the spark that transforms information into insight."

    Go watch Stable Diffusion iteratively transform noise into originality.

    • project2501a 4 hours ago
      i'm sorry, I cannot agree that anything like that can create "originality".
      • coldtea 1 hour ago
        As opposed to what? Water and tissue?
      • taneq 3 hours ago
        Creativity can be thought of as a combination of two things: A random idea generator, and a nonsense filter. Generate new random results ideas, filter out the nonsense ones, and you’ve generated good ideas.
        • itsalwaysgood 14 minutes ago
          Creativity also requires information. And Information is discovered. We can only generate random ideas from what we know. We can't imagine something we've never sensed, or know. You can't imagine a color you've never seen without recalling known colors. You can freely mix ideas due to your imagination.

          But when we discover new information, we must decide whether the information is useful. Otherwise the information is considered noise.

          We give weight to decisions: time spent pondering, considering, and the more weight we give, the better the decision. Almost always the idea is measured in usefulness.

          Sound familiar?

        • boston_clone 3 hours ago
          A massive chasm exists between good, creative ideas and ideas that aren’t nonsense.
          • coldtea 1 hour ago
            Not that massive.

            A lot of good, creative ideas have been called out and derived as nonsense or crazy. Many still are.

          • CrimsonRain 3 hours ago
            That's why most people are not creative, and tbqh, rather dumb
  • stefantalpalaru 35 minutes ago
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