StarFighter 16-Inch

(us.starlabs.systems)

84 points | by signa11 1 hour ago

19 comments

  • miek 1 hour ago
    Excellence. I like everything, and the open warranty is nice: "Our 1-year limited warranty allows you to take your computer apart, replace parts, install an upgrade, and use any operating system and even your firmware, all without voiding the warranty."

    I'd love to see more than 5 years of updates, but there is so much to love here, I can look past that!

  • LorenDB 12 minutes ago
    I really like the detachable webcam gimmick - I'm sure that, like all gimmicks, it could prove frustrating sometimes, but it's a novel way to have both a decent webcam and thin bezels without notches, nose-facing cameras, etc.
  • zamadatix 19 minutes ago
    This page shows an image of a laptop motherboard with socketed memory https://us.starlabs.systems/cdn/shop/products/B5i7PCB-01x200... but it actually has BGA soldered LPDDR5X.

    I wonder why the price difference between the 8845HS and the 285H is more than the cost of some complete 8845HS based systems.

  • wtallis 1 hour ago
    Is there something new here? The processor options seem to be two generation old Intel, one generation old Intel, and one generation old AMD.
    • miek 53 minutes ago
      I can't imagine the supply chain challenges inherent to startup laptop manufacturers. I think it's "go with what you have access to at reasonable prices, or forget about it. "
      • wtallis 47 minutes ago
        I think Framework is a good example of how smaller laptop OEMs end up shipping late, often on the order of three quarters. This is something else entirely, if any of these configurations are recent arrivals (I don't think they are).
    • dylan604 48 minutes ago
      I have the Intel Core i9 in my 2019 MBP, and it gets so damn hot. How do the ones offered here compare? I'm not one to upgrade frequently, but the heat of this thing makes me go looking. Luckily, it sits on a stand on a desk with more 9s than github is up.
      • wtallis 38 minutes ago
        A 2019 MacBook Pro would have an Intel Skylake processor (N-th re-release), made on Intel's stagnant 14nm process. The older Intel option for the StarFighter has its CPU cores made on an Intel process two generations newer, and the rest of the chiplets made by TSMC. The newer Intel option moves the CPU chiplet to TSMC as well. They're in a very different league for power efficiency than your current machine, both from the fab improvements and from having a microarchitecture that's not from 2015.
        • dylan604 31 minutes ago
          Okay, but what does that mean for the temp of the case while sitting in one's lap. Can it be done without getting second degree burns?
          • oofabz 5 minutes ago
            Every generation of CPU has high-power and low-power variants. The i9 is a high power variant that generates a lot of heat but what you want is the low power variant.

            I recommend looking for a used laptop with a Core Ultra 7 165U (<$500) or a Core Ultra 7 268V (>$1000). Maybe an HP EliteBook. Either one would be faster than your old i9 and run much cooler.

          • wtallis 17 minutes ago
            Case temperature is very much at the discretion of the laptop OEM. Some OEMs take regulatory limits on skin temperature seriously and ship a well-tuned thermal control system that keeps the case at a comfortable temperature. Others push close to the legal limits to keep fan noise in check. Others ship plastic enclosures so they can get away with even higher temperatures (since plastic has lower thermal conductivity than metal, and thus a harder time cooking your thighs) at the expense of more noise.

            The StarFighter has a metal case, so when running at high power levels (45W sustained according to the spec sheet) it will either get uncomfortably hot somewhere on the case or at least a bit noisy from the fans, but since it's a bit thicker than the 2019 MacBook Pro it should be able to cool itself more effectively. But when running at the performance level you're used to the power draw should be plenty low enough to make temperature and fan noise not a problem: roughly double the peak CPU performance means you can turn down the power limits a lot and still have a better-performing machine.

    • aidenn0 38 minutes ago
      This might be driven by coreboot support?
  • zx8080 1 hour ago
    Same-size cursor keys (with the whole line and without any distinction) is such an ill-design decision. Nice to show in the presentation slide deck, but hard to actually use blindly.
  • sho_hn 47 minutes ago
    This is lovely. I'd love it if this or the Framework Pro also had OLED options, though.

    My aging Thinkpad P1 (1st Gen) has a great LCD, but it's also the last non-OLED screen in my life, and I don't think I can buy another laptop without it. In fact it would be a purchase decision driver/upgrade incentive for me. This and longer battery life.

    Even though I build lots of C++ code, I still don't think I need more than the Xeon in the P1, horse-power wise.

    • colordrops 16 minutes ago
      For sure, once you go OLED you don't go back. It's like going back to a mouse with a ball.
  • fagnerbrack 34 minutes ago
    I like to use laptop in the beach. No glare means I can see it even with the sun light reflecting?
  • benoau 1 hour ago
    Jeez what an amazing month for premium Linux laptops.
  • binary132 12 minutes ago
    Every new $3000 computer I see just makes me glad I bought a Snapdragon X2 laptop.
  • walrus01 26 minutes ago
    For the price I was expecting actual wifi 7 (802.11be standards compliant) and USB3.2 10 Gbps capability on the type A ports.
  • ilaksh 46 minutes ago
    Says nothing about AI capability or even graphics. I am skeptical about the value.
  • SilentM68 27 minutes ago
    Those are nice looking machines. I don't see any mention of high-end GPUs, though. Do you offer any models that include heavy-duty GPUs for the more usually beefier AI stuff?
  • analog8374 1 hour ago
    does anybody do built-in trackballs anymore? I really like those.
  • ekianjo 34 minutes ago
    No cachyOS or Arch install options. Proposing Manjaro in 2026 is major clueless
  • SilverElfin 1 hour ago
    They aren’t US based right? Does that mean tariffs for US shipping?

    Are these a good pick for a non-programmer who is interested in Linux but intimidated by it?

    • ufmace 51 minutes ago
      Looks like they're UK based. I don't know, but apparently tariffs etc are factored into the shipping fees shown on their site.

      If you're not sure if you want to go Linux yet, it's probably best to try a live USB stick of a few distros on your existing hardware. Get a feel for what the interface is like, how things work, how it works on your hardware, etc, without actually changing anything. Seems like a better bet to me than buying all-new hardware.

    • jxcole 1 hour ago
      • SilentM68 45 minutes ago
        You can also use Ventoy to boot the ISOs which is somewhat easier in my view.
      • SilverElfin 52 minutes ago
        A long time ago. But I ran into all sorts of issues. It was a struggle getting things like Bluetooth or WiFi working. And I just couldn’t get myself to feeling like I could ‘trust it’. Like that I wouldn’t break it and somehow lose all my data in th process.
    • d3Xt3r 52 minutes ago
      Check out System76 and Framework, they're based in the US and ship Linux machines.
  • paulpauper 1 hour ago
    lol Up to

    18 hrs

    battery life

    if you put it in sleep mode maybe. why do people keep lying about battery life?

    • miek 51 minutes ago
      Light usage on low brightness? Nice to know it will last for a long flight.
    • bigyabai 1 hour ago
      A couple weeks ago, Framework livestreamed a rundown of their 13" laptop lasting over 20 hours on a charge. I can believe the 16" gets there too.
      • bryanlarsen 54 minutes ago
        That was a Panther Lake based laptop. Lunar Lake laptops can also last well over 12 hours, even in Linux. This StarFighter offers neither Lunar Lake nor Panther Lake, so 18 hours is probably only under really ideal circumstances.
        • dylan604 43 minutes ago
          Well, it's running Linux, so close the lid and turn off the screen. Then, SSH into it like a good Linux machine.
  • operatingthetan 1 hour ago
    It would have been better if they didn't make it look a little bit too inspired by the Macbook Pro.
    • bryanlarsen 50 minutes ago
      There isn't exactly a lot of design freedom in a black rectangle with a screen a keyboard and a touchpad. A real Macbook copy would include Macbook misfeatures, like:

      - control key in wrong place - camera notch - half sized arrow keys

      • operatingthetan 33 minutes ago
        >There isn't exactly a lot of design freedom in a black rectangle with a screen a keyboard and a touchpad

        No, every laptop does not look exactly the same and they are not all macbook clones.

    • sho_hn 49 minutes ago
      I think in reality it will look/feel a fair bit different due to the ceramic-coated material.

      Asus has similar materials in recent models I believe; I rather like it.

    • wussboy 57 minutes ago
      What a boutique criticism
    • dylan604 42 minutes ago
      And what design would you rather them emulate?
    • dustfinger 57 minutes ago
      100
    • jjtheblunt 34 minutes ago
      why?
  • AngryData 57 minutes ago
    I don't know how anybody can stand not having a numpad.
    • dylan604 35 minutes ago
      I bought a bluetooth 10-key. I use the home/end keys religiously when editing in an NLE, and it drove me crazy trying to be a road warrior without it. After having the external, I prefer it as it is full size instead of trying to squeeze it into the laptop frame size. So not having the numpad on the laptop is a-okay for me
    • d3Xt3r 46 minutes ago
      I never used it. Well, I lie, I did use it back in the day for playing some DOS games where you had to share your keyboard with your friend...

      But all my keyboards have been TKL over the past 15+ years and I don't miss it. I don't know why anyone needs to use a numpad unless they're in a job where they work a lot with numbers. And if you're not in such a role, what is your hobby exactly that demands so much number punching?

    • wtallis 49 minutes ago
      I only use a number pad for playing a few games, and for bulk data entry. Neither of those use cases are something I prefer using my laptop for, and even on my desktops they're rare enough that I'd much rather have the number pad separate and largely out of the way.

      What do you use a number pad for often enough to not only see it as mandatory for you, but to leave you unable to imagine how anyone could live without it?

    • CarVac 17 minutes ago
      I do number entry with the number row. 8 fingers > 3 fingers.
    • miek 49 minutes ago
      For serious work, I'm docked and using a large monitor, split keyboard, etc. Many people make concessions when on a laptop.
    • frankmatranga 50 minutes ago
      What do you use yours for? All I’ve ever missed it for was the default Blender keybinds for the camera perspective