19 comments

  • aftbit 1 hour ago

        #!/bin/sh
        export ANTHROPIC_BASE_URL=https://api.deepseek.com/anthropic
        export ANTHROPIC_AUTH_TOKEN=sk-secret
        export ANTHROPIC_MODEL=deepseek-v4-flash
        export CLAUDE_CODE_DISABLE_NONESSENTIAL_TRAFFIC=1
        exec claude $@
    • aaurelions 1 hour ago
      It seems like any project that makes fun of Claude is bound to reach the top spot on Hacker News. Even if it’s just a project consisting of four lines of code.
      • ihsw 15 minutes ago
        [dead]
    • nadermx 1 hour ago
      The AI wars have begun
  • vitaflo 1 hour ago
    I'm not exactly sure what the point of this is. Deepseek already has instructions to use its API with many CLI's including Claude Code directly:

    https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/agent_integrations...

    • croes 41 minutes ago
      From vibe coders for vibe coders
    • ttoinou 1 hour ago
      I thought the tool format wasnt exactly the same ? So plugging any IA into claude code requires a conversion of format
    • 2ndorderthought 1 hour ago
      There probably isn't a point. Someone didn't understand something, didn't research it, so they 1 shotted their first thought and sent it to the front page of HN and all of their socials. It's the future bruh
    • crooked-v 47 minutes ago
      I'm curious how well it actually works. I tried Deepseek with Hermes and Opencode and it seemed extremely bad about using some of the basic tools given, like the Hermes holographic memory tools, even with system prompt instructions strongly pointing them out.
  • justech 1 hour ago
    If you're looking for Claude Code alternatives, I would first suggest looking into pi.dev or opencode for your harness. And then for models, you can choose from OpenCode Go (IMO most cost effect at this moment), OpenRouter, or direct from DeepSeek. Better if you go the Kimi route IMO and just buy a subscription from kimi.com
    • wolttam 34 minutes ago
      I’m going to throw my harness in the ring: https://codeberg.org/mlow/lmcli
    • aaurelions 1 hour ago
      Another very cost-effective option is Ollama Cloud. In a month of use, I only hit the 5-hour limit once, when I ran 8 agents simultaneously for 2 hours.
      • postatic 42 minutes ago
        definitely worth it - have both ollama cloud, opencode and hermes running to test them all out, working great so far.
    • bakugo 19 minutes ago
      > I would first suggest looking into pi.dev

      Looked into this one. Thought it was suspicious that it only had 7 open issues on github. Turns out they have a bot that auto-closes every single issue just because.

      I honestly have no words.

    • Aeroi 50 minutes ago
      agreed. OpenCode is a strong base, and with a couple modifications it can become a very effective harness. my sideproject mouse.dev I’ve been combining parts from OpenCode, Claude Code, and Hermes to build a cloud agent architecture that works well from mobile.
      • CharlesW 21 minutes ago
        > OpenCode is a strong base, and with a couple modifications it can become a very effective harness.

        I personally didn't find it to be competitve with Claude Code as a harness. Can I ask how you modified it to perform better?

  • vagab0nd 17 minutes ago
    This has become a problem for me. I like trying new things. But I also know that in about a week, there's going to be a better/cheaper setup. And a week after that. And ideally I'd like to get some coding done when I'm not tinkering with the tools.

    So I think I'll stay with CC for now.

  • _345 1 hour ago
    If you're okay with sonnet level performance, this sounds like a straight upgrade. But I find that sonnet messes up too much, that it ends up not being worth cost optimizing down to using it or another sonnet-level model. Glad to have this as an option though
    • 2ndorderthought 1 hour ago
      A lot of people are having good experiences doing things like using opus for designing and using locally hosted qwen3.6 for implementation.

      I could see a serious cost reduction story by using opus for design and deepseek for implementation.

      Personally I would avoid anthropic entirely. But I get why people don't.

      • girvo 1 hour ago
        Like me: that’s what I do. Either Opus 4.7 or GLM 5.1 for planning, write it out to a markdown file, then farm it out to Qwen 3.6 27B on my DGX Spark-alike using Pi. Works amusingly well all things considered.
        • 2ndorderthought 1 hour ago
          How is glm 5.1? I have t tried it yet but have been meaning too
          • girvo 26 minutes ago
            It's surprisingly good. Beats MiniMax 2.7 and Qwen 3.5 Plus in my testing (I haven't tested 3.6 plus though), quite handily. It's far better than Sonnet, and often equivalent to Opus for the web development and OCaml tasks I'm using it for. It definitely isn't Opus 4.7, but its far good enough to earn it's keep and is substantially cheaper.
        • aftbit 1 hour ago
          What hardware are you using to power this?
          • girvo 28 minutes ago
            > DGX Spark-alike

            Probably wasn't clear enough if you don't know what that is already, apologies

            It's an Asus Ascent GX10, which is a little mini PC with 128GB of LPDDR5X as shared memory for an Nvidia GB10 "Blackwell" (kind of, it's a long story) GPU and a MediaTek ARM CPU

            • aftbit 15 minutes ago
              Ah yeah I saw that, I was just curious which particular mini-PC you were using. I was considering picking up one of the various AI Max 395 boxes before the RAMpocalypse but didn't take the plunge. Thanks for the response!
    • chrsw 53 minutes ago
      I keep re-learning this lesson: I chug along with a lesser model then throw a problem at it that's too complex. Then I try different models until I give up and bring in Opus 4.6 to clean up.
      • brianwawok 51 minutes ago
        And I keep using Opus to like, make git commits. Really just need a smart router that is actually smart, vs having to micromanage model
    • willio58 28 minutes ago
      I don’t find this with sonnet at all. As long as I have a solid Claude.md and periodically review the output and enforce good code practices via basic CI gates I’ve rarely ever found myself having to switch to opus
  • alexdns 1 hour ago
    obviously vibe coded ( co authored ) + the prices dont even match
    • inciampati 10 minutes ago
      poorly vibe coded. machines can check details easily, use them.
    • 2ndorderthought 1 hour ago
      It's going to be real hard to find headlines that weren't vibe coded from here on out unfortunately.
      • SchemaLoad 1 hour ago
        Unless I actually know the author I assume everything here is vibeslop and full of mistakes.

        Maybe I need to switch to some news publication that actually does real research and writing still. Because public forums like this have been completely destroyed by LLMs.

      • cyanydeez 1 hour ago
        welp, pack it it in boys, it was nice conceptualizing all you as real humans on the internet. I guess I'll just have to go touch grass if I want to feel parasocial.
        • dragontamer 1 hour ago
          I mean, we have the tech and community to actually build in person meetups and sign CRT certificates, right?

          If we touch grass in person and swap certificate requests, we can actually rebuild a trust network.

          This is a pretty old problem with regards to clubs / secret societies and whatnot. And with certificates / PKI, our modern security tools have solved all the technical problems.

          • 2ndorderthought 52 minutes ago
            I wish I could be invited to a secret club of guaranteed humans. Someone hand me a certificate next time you see me! Also don't stab me kthxbye
            • cyanydeez 49 minutes ago
              Unfortunately, a lot of whats happening in the tech world seems to be from some super serious AI cults, so not sure goin offline like this is any better.
              • 2ndorderthought 23 minutes ago
                Yea but we could have fun. Play some dnd. Drink tea or whiskey. Eat pizza pie. Light saber battle. Buy a megaphone and hang out at a street corner telling passerbys they are perfectly acceptable and worthy of kindness and love
  • Lihh27 49 minutes ago
    the wrapper is basically env var glue. You’re still betting the whole loop on Anthropic's closed client.
  • game_the0ry 45 minutes ago
    Cost engineering [1] will be the next hot topic for AI.

    [1] A fancier way of saying "reducing cost."

  • orliesaurus 1 hour ago
    Is there a way to do this directly by using claudecode CLI (which I already have installed) and openrouter??
    • jubilanti 26 minutes ago
      Here's a oneliner:

         ANTHROPIC_BASE_URL="https://openrouter.ai/api" ANTHROPIC_AUTH_TOKEN="$OPENROUTER_API_KEY" ANTHROPIC_DEFAULT_SONNET_MODEL="deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash" CLAUDE_CODE_DISABLE_NONESSENTIAL_TRAFFIC=1 claude
    • vitaflo 1 hour ago
    • theanonymousone 1 hour ago
      Yes, from Claude Code themselves: https://code.claude.com/docs/en/llm-gateway
    • gnat 1 hour ago
      This repo's README explains how it works and you can do it yourself. claude looks for environment variables that say which API endpoint to talk to, which key to pass, which model name to use for haiku/sonnet/opus-level workloads, etc.
  • deadbabe 25 minutes ago
    I had a call with our CTO and we are pivoting away from Claude Code to DeepClaude because the cost savings are too substantial to ignore.
  • 2ndorderthought 1 hour ago
    Oh shoot now the next CC upgrade will blow your subscription for doing this
  • esafak 1 hour ago
    Why wouldn't you use something open source like OpenCode, which already support DSv4 and has more features than CC?
    • CharlesW 23 minutes ago
      Coding harnesses make a big difference, and OpenCode is notably less effective than Claude Code (1) in my experience, (2) with the models I've tried it on. (I've not yet tried it with DSv4.)
    • dlx 1 hour ago
      As someone who does use other models with CC, I am curious about opencode, what extra features does it have that you find essential?
      • esafak 1 hour ago
        I like being able to add a wide array of models, define perms for agents and subagents, turn MCPs on and off at will, and be able to fix bugs I find in it.
        • dlx 48 minutes ago
          fair enough...any drawbacks that you've found?
          • esafak 46 minutes ago
            Its UI isn't as slick, and it has bugs, but so does CC and you can submit a PR to have them fixed in OC.
    • ttoinou 1 hour ago
      More features than CC ?

      Also opencode tracks you by default. Its not safe. Every first prompt you send is routed through their servers, logged and they can use your data however they want

      • sedawkgrep 56 minutes ago
        I thought this was debunked awhile ago. ?
      • esafak 57 minutes ago
        I could not find any evidence of prompt logging. The code is open; can you point me to it?
  • morpheos137 1 hour ago
    anthropic messed up big time harness works with any muh commodity LLM, meanwhile VCs were duped on the myth of FOOM AGI, probably not a cooincidence Anthropic is enmeshed with the scifi fan fic forum known as lesswrong. The world wants useful tools. The bay area bubble in contrast thrives on Mythos.
    • hgyyy 32 minutes ago
      I think OAI and Anthropic will be ok for a year or two. But after that If they still continue to earn revenues from selling tokens to firms/software engineers they will be in serious trouble.

      The American firms are not demonstrating escape velocity and as long as china offers something somewhat comparable and offers it at a very low price to compensate for any difference in quality, they will not be generating enough in cash flows to finance reinvestment. I highly doubt they’ll be able to continue raising external financing for numerous periods from here on out - they gotta start showing strong financials and that they are running away from the open source models.

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