6 comments

  • projektfu 6 hours ago
    The opening line was funny, because the Wall Street Journal famously had no photos long into the color photo era of newspapers. When did they add them? Sometime in the late 90s/2000s?

    Then again, financial news doesn't really lend itself to photojournalism. A photo isn't going to make the story of a bankruptcy or merger more believable. The rest of the media would show an exasperated trader on the day of a market crash, but at the level of traders some will benefit from a bull market and others will benefit from a bear. So it's just pointless showing the photo.

    I always liked the hand drawings of people referred to in the stories.

    • Worf 4 hours ago
      If we could get rid of useless stock photos, the world would be a better place. An article about headaches doesn't need a picture of someone with a headache. WE KNOW WHAT A HEADACHE IS. An article about someone arrested doesn't need a picture of a generic crime scene. An article about Facebook doesn't need a photo of a monitor at an angle showing Facebook.

      But apparently it drives engagement because people can't sustain their focus on text-only media?

      • asdefghyk 3 hours ago
        To get around this problem , I personally use a ON/Off extension and only load images if article "...is interesting enough ..." But yes, lots of images only have a very weak usefulness ....
        • Worf 3 hours ago
          What's the extension, if you don't mind?

          I'd love an extension that classifies images and somehow blocks stock photos or keeps anything that's not a photo like charts and graphs. For crime and police stories, not that I regularly stumble upon those, I want to see the real crime scene or the real perp, but not a stock photo of a police tape or a judge's gavel. If everything is "off", I wouldn't know what I'm missing.

    • asdefghyk 3 hours ago
      RE ".... the Wall Street Journal famously had no photos long into...."

      Made me think of how I dislike articles, " often from newspapers " that seem to add (often several) photos only weekly related to article content when in my opinion only a few ( 1 or 2 ) are useful. I use a Image on/off extension, and only load images when I'm reading an article and it seems "... interesting enough ..." A side effect of such a browser extension is it reduces PC .resources. I also sometimes save a page with out images ..

    • xattt 3 hours ago
      Cook’s Illustrated continued to have black-and-white photos in the inside of the magazine up until the late 2010s.

      It seemed to be a stylistic choice that kept the focus on the cooking lore and knowledge rather than making the magazine about food porn. Their “cooking tips” section continues to be drawn in pen-and-ink style.

    • ghaff 3 hours ago
      Without researching, I would say the 2000s. They held off for a long time. As you suggest, it was a somewhat stodgy paper for ages that didn't really need photos prior to getting into more "lifestyle" and such topics later.
  • yubblegum 5 hours ago
    Any French sleuths in the house that can geolocate that street? There is partial visibility of the signage for a chocolate factory. (Just curious.)

    p.s. AI assisted search to the rescue: "The factory visible in the photo was located in the 11th arrondissement, near the intersection of rue Saint-Maur-Popincourt and rue du Faubourg-du-Temple."

    link has pic of the same location today: https://marinaamaral.substack.com/p/the-first-photo-of-an-in...

    • tecleandor 4 hours ago
      Wikipedia says [0] it's rue Saint-Maur-Popincourt, and from this article [1] it says it was taken from 92 Rue du Faubourg du Temple. Going there with Google Street Maps and rotating to look to rue Saint-Maur, seems feasible.

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        0: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Barricades_rue_Saint-Maur._Avant_l%27attaque,_25_juin_1848._Apr%C3%A8s_l%E2%80%99attaque,_26_juin_1848.jpg
        1: https://www.unjourdeplusaparis.com/paris-reportage/premiere-photo-barricade-histoire
    • fredoralive 2 hours ago
      Although that link doesn't actually have the picture of it today, looking at street view's history mode, what seems to have been the "Fabrique Chocolat" building (it's chimney stack is kinda distinctive, even if it was modified at some point, presumably when an extra story was added) was demolished circa 2015/2016.

      Hopefully this line noise goes to the right place: https://www.google.com/maps/@48.8707602,2.3734964,3a,75y,261...

    • derbOac 4 hours ago
      Thanks for that link.

      I've seen this photo before but never with any historical context, other than its significance as a photography milestone.

      That site explains the context of it as a news photo relatively well.

  • asdefghyk 3 hours ago
    My first immediate thought when I saw the title "...first photo published in a newspaper..." was to image a newspaper photo with obvious dots or their proper name "Halftones"

    A few googles reveal much detail about the process including that it was used up to 1990s

    • cubefox 3 hours ago
      They say it was likely an "inked engraving", not a halftone. Presumably created by hand. So it is a bit debatable whether we should call it a photo or just an engraving, made from a photo reference. (We wouldn't call an oil painting a photo even if it was created from a photo reference.)
  • sudb 4 hours ago
    Am I right in thinking that the picture provided with the blog post is the actual photo and not the inked engraving?
  • cubefox 3 hours ago
    > The published image was likely an inked engraving from the original photograph.

    Unfortunately the site has no picture of the published newspaper print of the engraving of the photograph.

  • ck2 3 hours ago
    the photos by kite in early 1900s are more amazing to me

    https://www.npr.org/sections/pictureshow/2014/01/15/26015255...

    1906 "Ruins of San Francisco, 2,000 feet above San Francisco Bay overlooking the waterfront"

    https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2014/01/14/07823u-1-edit_cu...

    a 49-pound camera raised above the bay with a train of Conyne kites

    • pcrh 1 hour ago
      Those are impressive! It's worth noting that the photographic technology had advanced considerably between 1848 and 1906.

      The exposure time of these kite photographs must have been quite short, given the obvious instability of the platform. They're very detailed, nonetheless.