Charcuterie – Visual similarity Unicode explorer

(charcuterie.elastiq.ch)

314 points | by rickcarlino 3 days ago

49 comments

  • siddboots 3 days ago
    Very cool concept and execution, well done.

    I don't quite understand what is going on with the "spotlight" UI concept - I can click around on the characters and it highlights an area and it also reloads the landscape local to the character that I clicked on, so I can sort of traverse the similarity landscape this way. But I feel like I might be missing some part of the visual metaphor?

    • huflungdung 3 days ago
      It’s just a cool visualisation
    • teaearlgraycold 2 days ago
      Agreed. Nice aesthetic. Terrible design.
      • siddboots 2 days ago
        Well, that wasn’t my conclusion at all to be clear!
  • Koffiepoeder 2 days ago
    I understand trimming input fields is typically a useful default, but in this case this prevents me from searching for a space. So maybe it'd be worthwhile to add a `if (trim(str)=="") return str` exception or something similar?
  • mjmasn 2 days ago
    I didn't notice this at first but if you click the pencil icon you can draw a shape to match against instead of searching with text or browsing with the dropdown
  • _qua 3 days ago
    I'm not dyslexic, but this is what I imagine dyslexic hell is.
  • txzl 2 days ago
    Seems like search doesn't work for Japanese kanji. Search works for https://unicodeplus.com/U+2F8F But doesn't work for https://unicodeplus.com/U+884C
  • Cadwhisker 3 days ago
    Very impressive that I can sketch a character in the top-left and get a close match. That's a real highlight showing that there's more going on under the hood than a big look-up table.
    • SpyCoder77 2 days ago
      I made a similar tool that in my opinion looks better and is more useful for finding characters. I feel that the tool the OP posted seems cool for short periods of entertainment, but isn't very useful for utility. Link to the website here: https://unicode-atlas.vercel.app
  • irickt 3 days ago
    "Everything runs in your browser."

    That's cool. The sound effects seem like natural thinking sounds. :)

    Several models to compare.

  • tantalor 3 days ago
    Ouch, my back button
    • SpyCoder77 3 days ago
      Yeah lol
    • iqfareez 3 days ago
      well you can right click the back button
  • 0xCE0 2 days ago
    Unicode standard doesn't define any visual shapes for code points (except conceptual examples for some emoji-like symbols), so this is more some specific font's (that is not even mentioned/cannot be changed) glyph similarity visualization than anything to do with Unicode code point "visual exploration".
  • alentred 2 days ago
    This is excellent. I prefer Unicode characters over images when possible, like arrows for example, but often struggle finding the exact one I need. Here I can sketch ‼ what I need and then narrow down my search. This is just perfect, many thanks. UX is easy and intuitive. Goes to my bookmarks.

    Like, who knew this is even a character: ᆚ

    • SpyCoder77 2 days ago
      I made a similar tool that in my opinion looks better and is more useful for finding characters. I feel that the tool the OP posted seems cool for short periods of entertainment, but isn't very useful for utility. Link to my website here: https://unicode-atlas.vercel.app
  • me_again 2 days ago
    Amused by how many X's there are: https://charcuterie.elastiq.ch/#1100B

    Did you mean Aegean Check Mark or Old North Arabian letter Teh?

    • Rendello 2 days ago
      We unified the entire CJK space but there was no "x" unification!
  • runeblaze 3 days ago
    > visual similarity

    > SigLIP 2

    Maybe visual-semantic similarity is more appropriate? Nonetheless the design is fantastic

    • meodai 2 days ago
      True, thanks for the feedback
      • ghywertelling 2 days ago
        One future project idea suggestion. Can we combine these characters to create new ones just like Gboard allows us to intelligently combine emojis to create new complex emojis.
  • vprcic 2 days ago
    It would seem it takes in account a bit more than "visual similarity", otherwise I can't find a good reason for "@" and "U+1F582 (BACK OF ENVELOPE)" being that close.

    Also, for years (decades?!) I wanted something similar in Word, for when I knew how to describe the symbol in words, but had a hard time manually searching for in the unwieldly UI. I can't believe that "insert symbol" window still doesn't have any kind of search capability.

    • SpyCoder77 2 days ago
      I made a similar tool that in my opinion looks better and is more useful for finding characters. I feel that the tool the OP posted seems cool for short periods of entertainment, but isn't very useful for utility. Link to the website here: https://unicode-atlas.vercel.app
    • cammasmith 2 days ago
      I agree. If Word had something like this, it would be so much easier to find the symbol you're looking for.
  • haritha-j 2 days ago
    Let me sumamrise my response thusly: 𒁞
  • semolino 2 days ago
    Design is delightful, great job.

    The radial glyph wave animation is also really cool, but the novelty will wear off and the delay will become grating especially if one is using the app in a utilitarian manner. Consider skipping transitions/animations if the user signals a preference for reduced/removed motion. Alternatively, you could add an on-page toggle for animations.

    • SpyCoder77 2 days ago
      I made a similar tool that in my opinion is more useful for finding characters via drawings and similar characters. As you mentioned, the tool the OP posted seems cool for short periods of entertainment, but isn't very useful for utility. Link to the website here: https://unicode-atlas.vercel.app
      • meodai 1 day ago
        yeah that’s a more utilitarian approach mine is more about exploring and navigating the unicode space visually

        beauty is in the eye of the beholder

        though going through every comment to promote it feels a bit… unnecessary

        • SpyCoder77 1 day ago
          I agree, you did a great job on the design, especially the border around the grid, I really like it. Also, just checked out your homepage, it looks really, really good
    • meodai 2 days ago
      great idea, I think I will do both
  • Leptonmaniac 2 days ago
    Really good looking! Interesting UI/UX insight: I kinda expect to be able to "go back" by inverting the coordinates. So when I have one glyph in focus and select a new one two to the left and five down, I would love to be able to go back by selecting five up and two right to find the "old" glyph. Not sure how well this can be implemented.
  • roer 2 days ago
    Lots of fun trying to go to a target symbol. Especially if you intentionally get yourself stuck in the lines first :D
  • nikisweeting 2 days ago
    This is so cool, just bookmarked it next to https://emojidb.org/ which is what I've been using in the past for vector-based emoji search.
    • SpyCoder77 2 days ago
      I made a similar tool that in my opinion looks better and is more useful for finding characters. I feel that the tool the OP posted seems cool for short periods of entertainment, but isn't very useful for utility. Link to the website here: https://unicode-atlas.vercel.app
      • nikisweeting 2 days ago
        gotta add vector search! that's the main benefit of these tools imo

        I want to be able to search abstract concepts like "package" or "download" or "jazz" and see everything vaguely related like emojidb does.

  • SubiculumCode 2 days ago
    As an aside: I personally have no use for unicode for bash commands, and the potential for sneaky maliciousness worries me. Does anyone know of a way to automatically strip (e.g. with tr) all unicode away when pasting into a terminal?
  • wackget 3 days ago
    Cool but maybe consider a different name? If I want to recommend this tool in a few weeks' time there is approximately 0% chance I'm remembering it's called something like "Charcuterie", despite the clever bit of wordplay.
    • emmelaich 3 days ago
      The title of the page is "Charcuterie — A Visual Unicode Explorer" so a search would bring it up. [edit - tested in a incognito page]
    • jorisnoo 2 days ago
      I love the name!
  • keyle 3 days ago
    I like the animation work and sound, it really gamifies the experience. I question the usefulness though. But it could make a fun game experience if it were to let people match by colour or align emojis related to each other.
    • SpyCoder77 2 days ago
      I made a similar tool that in my opinion is more useful for finding characters. I feel that the tool the OP posted seems cool for short periods of entertainment, but isn't very useful for utility. Link to the website here: https://unicode-atlas.vercel.app
    • meodai 3 days ago
      I use it to find icons I likr
  • d--b 2 days ago
    The name sounds really bad in French. Charcuterie is a pig butchering shop, usually associated with messy bloody stuff. The verb “charcuter” also refers to surgery done poorly.

    But yeah I guess the pun makes it work in english

    • meodai 2 days ago
      I’m a native French speaker, and “charcuterie” doesn’t really carry that negative meaning in everyday use. It’s very commonly used to mean cold cuts / prepared meats.

      The butcher is un charcutier, and the shop is une boucherie. La charcuterie refers to the food itself, usually cured or prepared meats (pork, cooked, smoked, dried, etc.). So the name works the same way it does in English.

      • d--b 2 days ago
        I'm French too :-)

        I get why people use French words to name products in english, but une charcuterie, it's somewhat gross and messy. It's Gaulois in a sense. To me it clashes a lot with the look of the website which is more like Tron-ish.

        You wouldn't see a charcutier in Tron, would you?

        • meodai 2 days ago
          Fair enough. I didn’t go for cultural or visual accuracy when naming it, I just wanted something loosely tied to characters / unicode, and the pun clicked for me. I still like it a lot.
    • globular-toast 2 days ago
      I looked this up as I was sure boucherie is the butchering/bloody bit. I think I'm right, charcuterie means essentially the same thing as it does in English.

      I didn't realise it was a French word, though, and thought the char was referring to smoking, even though I know not all charcuterie is smoked. But, in fact, char means flesh (chair) and cuterie means cookery. So it's more like "flesh-cookery" if we wished to translate it.

      • zeltus 2 days ago
        aksherlee, to les crapauds, a char is a tank.
        • d--b 2 days ago
          aksherlee <= nice one
  • lastofthemojito 2 days ago
    The design is fun.

    I think matching the drawing input to emojis need some work - no matter how I draw a smiley face, I never get any smiley face emoji (or any emoji) as a suggestion.

  • pimlottc 3 days ago
    This is cool but the characters are awful small on my iPhone 14 Pro. Decent bit of wasted space too. Why are the characters in the previous history list (on the “rim” so much bigger than the characters I’m actively exploring?
  • lastofthemojito 2 days ago
    I get weird behavior if I enter a Korean Hangul symbol like 소, it doesn't show visually similar symbols, it seems to be random stuff.
  • aeonik 2 days ago
    This is one of those designs that should be implemented on every computer. I'd love to have a little button pop up that helps my identity a symbol.
    • SpyCoder77 2 days ago
      I made a similar tool that in my opinion is more useful for finding characters, either by text search, drawing, or selecting a similar character. I feel that the tool the OP posted seems cool for short periods of entertainment, but isn't very useful for utility. Link to the website here: https://unicode-atlas.vercel.app
  • zeltus 2 days ago
    Bookmarked as an excellent tool. I use it to find alternatives to "forbidden" characters in filenames. For media files, mostly.
  • hootz 2 days ago
    A cool website that can be gamified like Wikipedia! You can do things like racing to find the among us character ඞ :)
  • amake 2 days ago
    To visually compare characters you need to map them to glyphs; what is the glyphset and how much of Unicode does it actually cover?
  • savolai 2 days ago
    Love it.

    Svg backups would be nice when chars render as boxes.

    • meodai 2 days ago
      should be less boxes now!
  • tash_2s 3 days ago
    Love this. I hope it works with Japanese kanji too, because sometimes I forget the exact character but remember a similar one.
    • meodai 2 days ago
      It does
      • amake 2 days ago
        It only seems to work for some subset of CJK characters. I haven't been able to figure out why some work and some don't.

        For instance 叱 and 明 both seem to fail in the same way: U+1F996 T-REX in the upper left corner and the URL fragment fails to update.

  • ares623 3 days ago
    Reminds me of early 2000's web design with Flash websites. Those were good times.
  • est 2 days ago
    Could this be used to make better ASCII animations?
  • evilelectron 3 days ago
    WOW! What a lovely way to explore the character map.
  • arttaboi 3 days ago
    This is impressive! Thanks for sharing.
  • adi_kurian 3 days ago
    This is quite remarkable. Great work.
  • downboots 3 days ago
  • rustystump 3 days ago
    This tastes delicious. The sound is perfectly restrained and animation is intentional. I wish more apps were as playful as this.
  • minantom 3 days ago
    Very cool concept and execution.
  • joshu 2 days ago
    anyone know how this works? i assume just rasterizing and embedding?
    • meodai 2 days ago
      exactly
      • joshu 2 days ago
        ported my random glyph generator to this method using pytorch timm and... it works! very cool
  • fortyseven 3 days ago
    Anyone else think of the film 'Hangar 18'; specifically the alien language they find on the UFO?
  • romanovtexas 2 days ago
    Amazing concept!
  • ssss11 3 days ago
    Sounds delicious!
  • mplanchard 3 days ago
    Love the name, very clever
  • LowLevelKernel 3 days ago
    WOW. JUST WOW ‼
  • atlasagentsuite 2 days ago
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  • SpyCoder77 3 days ago
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