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  • Someone1234 1 hour ago
    I just want to link this teardown; it is a suitable companion to this article:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k7Lv7f-5CQ

    On a rational level it isn't surprising that the "compute" part is so small, given its origins, but for some reason it still caught me by surprised seeing something barely larger than a Raspberry Pi.

    But, yeah, this thing is crazy modular. I particularly want to call out how trivial it is to replace the ports, given how common of a failure point they are. With the keyboard/monitor being more involved, but absolutely still approachable.

    I believe he finds just a single piece of light adhesive keeping a cable in place, everything else (inc. the battery) is screws only.

  • cwoolfe 11 minutes ago
    Repairability and cost are key for the education market. Apple sold iPads into this space for awhile but there's been pushback and talk of going to chromebooks. Seems like they are positioning Neo for this segment as well.
  • needSomeCoffee 27 minutes ago
    Wow. Beautiful engineering. Please, please Apple use this ethos for all future major laptop re-designs e.g. MBA & MBP.
  • drooopy 32 minutes ago
    This is probably going to be my new laptop next year if it gets the A19 Pro with 12 GB of RAM.
    • etchalon 28 minutes ago
      I'd bet these things are going to be on a two-year upgrade cycle, instead of yearly. Will be super happy to be proven wrong.
  • 0xDEFACED 1 hour ago
    i sure hope so if apple intends to sell these things to school divisions. the levels of abuse i witnessed students dishing out to their chromebooks when i was a teacher was shocking to say the least
  • oybng 30 minutes ago
    Just 20 steps and 18 screws to replace a battery, easy!
    • Clamchop 1 minute ago
      I mean, yes, it is easy. No adhesive and just a couple of clips on the case. You could replace the battery in 20 minutes with little anxiety that you're going to cause damage getting to it.
    • SoKamil 18 minutes ago
      But no adhesive under the battery. That’s huge.
      • butILoveLife 14 minutes ago
        Only if you are in Apple's Walled Prison. (Or I guess iOS dev)
        • ryandrake 4 minutes ago
          I'll take it over the plastic pieces of garbage that flex and bend and creek, and feel like they were taped together by a 6 year old, which is most other PC laptops in this price range.
    • crooked-v 10 minutes ago
      As it turns out, once battery life hits a certain baseline, people prefer devices where the battery is harder to replace but larger over devices where the battery is hot-swappable but smaller.
  • newsclues 30 minutes ago
    I'm not sure if it's possible, but an aftermarket battery with closer to the MB Airs KW/h specs would be a very interesting modification.

    The repairability seems to be interesting especially if it leads to framework style upgradability (logic boards, not the ports).

  • butILoveLife 15 minutes ago
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  • entropicdrifter 1 hour ago
    I feel like "most repairable macbook" is a bit like saying "most edible dirt". While it's good that there's progress, it's pretty telling that they need to only compare it within the same company's products.
    • Someone1234 1 hour ago
      I'd suggest you watch a teardown video. The Neo is absurdly repairable compared to just about anything in its category. It is extremely modular, and uses screws.
    • lallysingh 10 minutes ago
      Yeah, I mean I'm looking at frameworks/thinkpads on one side and chromebooks on the other. Not charging up to $440 (!) for a keyboard isn't a great act of engineering or generosity. This has been ridiculous for a very, very long time. Being less ridiculous isn't worth celebrating. The goal markers have moved so damned much.

      Compare to a thinkpad keyboard FRU. They have fluid drains and still cost $99 for a top-end laptop. My daughter's chromebook keyboard replacement at school was $16.

    • 0_____0 1 hour ago
      I've replaced a battery, screen, hinges on a macbook (2015). Did they get considerably worse at repairability after that? Because while there were a fair number of steps, it's not like they required exotic techniques to pull off.
      • Rebelgecko 45 minutes ago
        Yes
      • shrubble 54 minutes ago
        Yes they did. Reminder: your experience is 11 years ago and several Intel and ARM generations old. Also it’s more than $3 Trillion in revenue ago.
        • ceejayoz 49 minutes ago
          They’ve gotten largely more repairable since then, including adhesives you can electrically debond.
          • malmeloo 20 minutes ago
            That's a relatively recent development. Repairability has been very poor for quite a while, but now they're finally starting to improve the situation somewhat.
          • the_biot 19 minutes ago
            ...electrically debond, are you serious? More details please, this sounds very interesting.