9 comments

  • nattaylor 3 hours ago
    Reminds me a little of htmz

    htmz is a minimalist HTML microframework for creating interactive and modular web user interfaces with the familiar simplicity of plain HTML.

    • ok_dad 1 hour ago
      Yay someone already mentioned my favorite “framework”!

      htmz is a masterclass in simplicity. It’s gotta be the all time code golf winner.

    • oso2k 1 hour ago
      This looks interesting. Thanks for sharing.
  • oso2k 2 hours ago
    There’s several other (well) known examples of the use of mujs.

    There’s Artifex’s interpreter from muPDF. It’s also the basis of several JS related projects: https://mujs.com/

    There’s also a lesser known interpreter: https://github.com/ccxvii/mujs

    And IIRC, there was a CommonJS library of the same name.

  • recursivedoubts 3 hours ago
    heya amaury, great library!

    i have added it to the htmx alternatives page:

    https://htmx.org/essays/alternatives/#ujs

    • tagfowufe 3 hours ago
      Sneaking in real quick to thank you for your contributions and positive attitude you bring to the space.
  • lioeters 57 minutes ago
    Looks useful! I skimmed through the docs and had a question.

    Is there a mechanism for loading HTML partials that require additional style or script file? And possibly a way to trigger a JS action when loaded? For example, loading an image gallery.

  • ohghiZai 5 hours ago
    Would love to see a comparison with Datastar too
    • amaury_bouchard 4 hours ago
      Thanks for the suggestion! I'm considering adding more libraries to the comparison page (Datastar and Unpoly are on my radar).

      That said, µJS and Datastar have quite different philosophies. µJS is a lightweight AJAX navigation library (~5 KB); it intercepts links and forms, swaps fragments, and stays out of your way. There's no client-side state: your server renders HTML, µJS delivers it.

      Datastar is more of a reactive hypermedia framework. It brings client-side signals (reactive state in HTML attributes, à la Alpine.js) and uses SSE as its primary transport: the server pushes updates rather than the client fetching them. It's a different mental model: Datastar manages state and reactivity, while µJS is purely about navigation and content replacement.

      Both are small, zero-build-step, and attribute-driven, so the comparison is definitely interesting. I'll look into adding it!

  • pwdisswordfishy 2 hours ago
    Not to be confused with https://mujs.com/ I guess?
  • gaigalas 2 hours ago
    I like the idea. DOM morphing is nice.

    I've done this previously with morphdom to AJAXify a purely server-driven backoffice system in a company.

    I would love something even smaller. No `mu-` attributes (just rely on `id`, `href`, `rel`, `rev` and standard HTML semantics).

    There's a nice `resource` attribute in RDFa which makes a lot of sense for these kinds of things: https://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-lite/#h-resource

    Overall, I think old 2015-era microdata like RDFa and this approach would work very well. Instead of reinventing attributes, using a standard.

    • 0x20cowboy 27 minutes ago
      Not exactly what you’re saying, but a bit closer. With this library you set what css classes on the page are “hot”, it fetches the next page state and replaces that part of the page with the new state: https://github.com/robrohan/diffy
  • ranger_danger 3 hours ago
    Does it automatically parse JSON responses from servers into objects? This is my one big gripe about htmx, even though the devs and other users keep telling me I shouldn't want that as a feature and that it "doesn't make sense".

    Sorry if I need to use existing APIs I cannot change.

    • WesolyKubeczek 2 hours ago
      I came to a conclusion that when you have an SPA with JSON-spitting backend where you cannot make the backend spit out chunks of HTML, htmx and similar libraries/frameworks are not suitable. They are suitable if you already have a multi-page application like we used to in 2006, or if you design it from the ground up.
  • majorchord 3 hours ago
    • networked 2 hours ago
      This is bad advice to a new FLOSS project that wants to have users. Avoiding GitHub with its user base (meaning issues and discussions), search, project topics (tags), trending repository lists, etc. will make a fledgling project even less likely to gain adoption.

      A better thing to suggest is to use multiple forges, including GitHub, and mirror your projects across them. This way you will have exposure and options; you won't be as tied to any one forge.

      • majorchord 2 hours ago
        Hard disagree, multiple forges does not solve the problem of being unable to opt-out of AI training from your code.
        • networked 1 hour ago
          If that is your problem with GitHub, then I agree, you should avoid GitHub, though someone can still mirror your repository there. I assume most new FLOSS projects that want to have users don't consider it a dealbreaker.
        • hombre_fatal 34 minutes ago
          If your problem is with your code appearing in training data, then you cannot release your code anywhere.

          That link you provided only points out GitHub has integrated "create pull request with Copilot" that you can't opt out of. Since anyone can create a pull request with any agent, and probably is, that's a pretty dated complaint.

          Frankly not very compelling reasons to ditch the most popular forge if you value other people using/contributing to your project at all.