Lil' Fun Langs

(taylor.town)

117 points | by surprisetalk 20 hours ago

8 comments

  • taolson 14 hours ago
    Don't know if my language is considered Lil' enough for this, but it's a pure, lazy functional language based upon Miranda (progenitor language to Haskell) that compiles to x86-64 asm. ~6700 SLOC for the (self-hosted!) compiler, and ~3300 SLOC additional for the extensive library of functional data structures and functions.

    https://github.com/taolson/Admiran

    • spragl 5 hours ago
      I really loved Miranda back when I learned about it. I still have the book. I think it never took off because it was quite expensive for universities to use. Im sure David Turner regrets his price model today. Now he has made Miranda available here https://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/staff/dat/miranda/
      • taolson 53 minutes ago
        Yes, the open-source release he did is what introduced me to Miranda. I rewrote a lot of my previous Haskell solutions to Advent of Code puzzles with it, and liked it so much I decided to try to improve on it ;-)

        That's what led to Admiran. I originally wrote Admiran in Miranda, then bootstrapped from that to self-hosting when it was stable enough to do so. The original Miranda combinator compiler / interpreter took 20 minutes to compile all of Admiran, while the self-hosted version now takes 20 seconds.

        One of the grad students of David Turner has taken up maintenance on the original Miranda source; the repository is now at https://codeberg.org/DATurner/miranda

  • dunham 17 hours ago
    My little language Newt is 7 kloc. Dunno if it's worth including, it's mostly an exercise to learn how these things work and is not as polished as I'd like.

    - Self-hosted

    - Compiles to javascript

    - Bidirectional typechecking with NbE (based on elaboration zoo)

    - Dependent type checking

    - type classes

    - ADTs with dependent pattern matching

    - TCO (trampoline for mutually tail recursive functions)

    - Erasure of compile-time only values (0, ω quantities, but not linear)

    - Web playground

    - LSP (added this month)

    - Syntax is similar to Agda / Idris / Haskell

    https://github.com/dunhamsteve/newt

    • taolson 14 hours ago
      Either newt was already in the list, or it got added. We talked a bit about using our languages for AoC 2024 -- looks like you've been keeping busy working on it!
  • ecto 15 hours ago
    loon is a lisp! https://github.com/ecto/loon

      [type Shape
        [Circle Float]
        [Rect Float Float]]
      
      [fn area [s]
        [match s
          [Circle r]  => [* 3.14 r r]
          [Rect w h]  => [* w h]]]
      
      [area [Circle 5.0]]
    • grimgrin 15 hours ago
      idk how I haven't crossed a lisp with square brackets but dang I am sorta stunned at how I've never even envisioned it? thanks
      • syene 2 hours ago
        Keyboards of early MIT systems[1] and Lisp Machines[2] had brackets (parentheses) and square brackets on the same key where square brackets and curly brackets are on modern keyboards.

        1: http://xahlee.info/kbd/sail_keyboard.html

        2: http://xahlee.info/kbd/space-cadet_keyboard.html

      • cpeterso 14 hours ago
        No shift key needed for square brackets!

        Curl was a proprietary Lisp that {curly brackets} and was designed in the 1990s to build web applications.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curl_(programming_language)

        • dunham 10 hours ago
          I've always found OCaml's (* ... *) comments annoying, because it needs shift for both characters. But I suspect it's easier to type on a french keyboard.

          Knuth solves the bracket issue by redefining his keymap to swap () with [] and + with = (macos keymap files found at the bottom of this page: https://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/programs.html )

        • Andrex 9 hours ago
          In high school I tried spec'ing a lang that excluded shift key usage... fun times.
      • shawn_w 8 hours ago
        There's a few lispy languages that support using square brackets as an alternative to parens. Racket even has curly braces too.

        The above really reminds me of tcl, though, which uses square brackets to force evaluation of the command they wrap.

  • Perenti 9 hours ago
    I've been playing with my own Smalltalk implementation. I guess it qualifies as a tiny _language_, but the class library is huge!

    Yes, I know that all who do not understand Smalltalk are doomed to re-implement it, poorly. I'm just cutting out the middleman - and this allows it to do things Smalltalk normally doesn't. It allows me to think so far outside the box it's not even visible anymore.

  • hedayet 6 hours ago
    fun collection. would love your comment on roxlang(https://roxlang.com/)

    disclaimer: I'm the author

  • mlajtos 19 hours ago
    Fluent – 4K lines – including parser, interpreter, standard library, IDE, UI, docs, examples. Will grow though.

    https://github.com/mlajtos/fluent/blob/main/client.tsx

    • surprisetalk 18 hours ago
      I'll add it! Thanks.

      EDIT: Actually, it's not quite "ML-family" enough for this post. But it is a remarkably cool project! :)

  • lachlan_gray 16 hours ago
    Another crazy one is SectorLISP, 223 lines of asm

    https://justine.lol/sectorlisp2/

  • nimbus-hn-test 17 hours ago
    The hardest part with small languages isn't the parser, it's the standard library and error messages. Getting a helpful IDE experience in that footprint is a significant engineering challenge.