11 comments

  • jampa 2 hours ago
    I am glad that I don't need to use Windows anymore. When I did, the LTSC version (the one made for ATM and Kiosks) was the only one that was productivity-friendly.

    Microsoft doesn't want to accept that no one cares about Windows, and the OS is the thing that gets you to the thing you want to do.

    I saw 2 instances of people getting "updating windows" in their personal laptops when they tried to present something and lost everyone's time. I imagine this happens a lot of times every day. And now they are just breaking everyone's system by forcing updates as well.

    • kyriakos 2 hours ago
      If nobody cared about windows there wouldn't be any posts like this one everyday on HN. The problem is people do care and need to use windows which makes all these stupidity by Microsoft the recent years frustrating.
      • jmward01 1 hour ago
        I am personally just a lurker. Windows used to be my only OS for a -very- long time (DOS 2.x, yes 2, was my first MS OS). Now I click on these just to see how far it has fallen. It is like that friend you drifted away from and now you look at their FB posts now and again to watch as they get crazier and crazier.
    • MegaDeKay 2 hours ago
      LTSC is what mainstream Windows should be. It doesn't load up a bunch of apps you don't ask for or throw ads in your face all the time. Solid, dependable, reliable, and stable.
  • nsoonhui 1 hour ago
    Last Thursday windows 11 forced this update on my Acer machine. It caused me BSOD: inaccessible boot device, so I had to reformat my machine to get Windows running again.

    So I am now very wary of this Out of Band Update[0], especially when it's not mentioned whether the latest update solve my issue or not. I don't know the same problem is still there, or whether this update makes the problem any better or worse.

    0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46750358

  • bdcravens 2 hours ago
    I switched to Macs almost completely for personal and devlopment use about 13 or 14 years ago. However, last year I started a 3d printing side hustle, and got an HP laptop for running the print studio since the amount of hardware I could get for less than $1000 was hard to ignore. However, things like this, and other weird issues (my fonts have gone all wonky a couple of times after random updates) make me want to switch it over to a Linux distro (even though the software support for what I need is much better in the Windows world, and in some cases, better than even on the Mac)
    • edg5000 1 hour ago
      > the software support for what I need is much better in the Windows world

      Please elaborate; can you name a few tools and what you use them for? Just curious.

      • bdcravens 36 minutes ago
        A number of the Autodesk tools and Solidworks, for modeling. Slicers can use APIs native to Windows to perform model repairs. Bambu Lab's farm manager only runs on Windows.
        • giancarlostoro 5 minutes ago
          The Creality one runs decent on Mac and Windows, sadly on Linux its a nightmare, and technically why I ditched Ubuntu / popOS for Arch Linux, but I can't help but still feel it runs a little weirder + its out of date compared to Mac and Windows versions. My buddy used to use Orca slicer on my printer, that one iirc should run on Mac too, but I havent tried it.
      • wileydragonfly 1 hour ago
        So sayeth the sea lion
        • kstrauser 1 hour ago
          Not the person you replied to, but I’ll go. Try experimenting with ham radio on anything but Windows. As far as I can tell, they revoke your Apple developer’s license and confiscate your Linux install disks when you start selling radio hardware.

          That’s not completely true. There’s good Linux and Mac software for lots of things. But approximately 100% of radio manufacturers ship Windows software. Far fewer support anything else.

          I bought a new radio at Christmas. Before buying it, I ruled out alternatives that didn’t have 1st party or good 3rd party support. It’s like trying to buy a scanner in 2003.

  • voxadam 2 hours ago
    I suppose that's one way to make Windows secure, keep it from running entirely.
  • JaggerFoo 38 minutes ago
    You mean the one I just downloaded and updated my laptop with? It installed OK.

    I usually use MacOS and Linux, it's just that some software is Windows only, and I run MacOS on Apple Silicon - the windows program I needed only uses x86-64 architecture, so I can't use parallels (AFAIK).

    I'm kind of hoping I get an update that bricks my laptop so I can install Debian over this MS Windows hellscape and run windows on a VM when needed. I may do it anyways after I get fed up with nagging MS messages and workarounds.

  • pizlonator 1 hour ago
    I had to renuke one of my gaming PCs this month so yeah

    Except I think the problem happened just before Jan 13

    But symptoms were almost exactly what TFA says

  • dboreham 11 minutes ago
    This is Tay Bridge syndrome: all the people who know how to ship an OS properly have retired.
  • jackblemming 13 minutes ago
    How is this not considered destruction of property? How about big tech plays by the same rules as everyone else?
  • ronsor 3 hours ago
    I've got to stop doing Windows Updates
    • PeterStuer 26 minutes ago
      It is called Windows 10.
    • blibble 2 hours ago
      just delete the service entirely, same with defender

      it's great

      my only remaining windows PC is for games, and it's on its own vlan with its own external IP

      if it gets hacked: I simply don't care

      • brian-armstrong 1 hour ago
        You don't really need Windows for gaming anymore unless you're playing the games that absolutely insist on kernel-level anti-cheat. Proton is extremely good on Linux these days.
        • girvo 25 minutes ago
          > unless you're playing the games that absolutely insist on kernel-level anti-cheat

          Sadly, I do :( Valorant is the main one that keeps my Windows partition around, for better or worse. Also sadly still there's some performance overhead for Linux gaming today, I hope that goes away in the future (for Intel/Nvidia cards especially)

        • blibble 1 hour ago
          I have a 2nd nvme in that machine for bazzite

          not quite there for me yet I'm afraid!

        • jayGlow 1 hour ago
          sometimes games just won't work on Linux, doom the dark ages refuses to work on Linux for me.
        • fh973 53 minutes ago
          VR?
      • pilif 1 hour ago
        You should care because once your PC is part of a bot network, it’s part of the problem
        • blibble 1 hour ago
          it's running Microslop Windows, so it's born compromised

          it's an OS with constant built-in ads and spyware

          it would have been considered malware in the 2000s

        • CamperBob2 1 hour ago
          Not being an incompetent or inexperienced Windows user, I'm vanishingly unlikely to be infected by a bot network trojan... and if that does happen, rest assured, I'll notice it.

          Windows Update, on the other hand, is part of my threat model.

      • koakuma-chan 42 minutes ago
        You can't do that. Eventually, something will stop working because it requires a certain Windows update.
        • nehal3m 28 minutes ago
          Then reinstall with a later ISO and cripple it again. On the whole that's probably more reliable.
  • lofaszvanitt 1 hour ago
    And noone asks why Windows looks, feels and operates the way it is. Isn't it strange that a megacorp creates these watermelon headed monstrosities and it gets worse after each iteration?
    • commandersaki 41 minutes ago
      Hasn't the answer always been legacy support.
      • samrus 27 minutes ago
        I think the general incompetence in the decision making behind windows is also a driver
  • leptons 1 hour ago
    Simple fix, move to Linux. (unless you're forced to use it like I am at work, for security theater reasons)