Local Journalism Is How Democracy Shows Up Close to Home

(buckscountybeacon.com)

163 points | by mooreds 2 hours ago

21 comments

  • showerst 1 hour ago
    The problem with local journalism is simple: the product is produces is not worth what it costs to produce it.

    This has _always_ been true, but for generations classified ad revenue neatly subsidized it. Once the internet came along and blew up that revenue stream, the industry was in trouble.

    I'm just not sure there's a good solution to this. Everyone will go on the internet and talk about how valuable people sitting in city council meetings is, but not enough people want to pay the monthly bill to enable that.

    • SoftTalker 21 minutes ago
      Disagree. Where I live there is a local news website that is mostly one guy, who attends city and county meetings, summarizes issues discussed and decisions made, analyzes the data that local government provides under various "transparency" initiatives---all stuff that our local newspaper no longer covers. I pay a monthly subscription (which isn't even required to read) because I believe that local news is the most important news. Nothing happening in the federal governemnt or the middle east or eastern Europe affects me from a local standpoint, and it's easy to stay informed on those events through a variety of sources. But there's very little coverage of the stuff that does affect me: decisions of local government, boards and commissions, stuff that directly affects the taxes I pay and the community I live in.

      You may be right that not enough people want to pay the bill, but I do and so far it seems to be working.

      I stopped subscribing to our local traditional newspaper because it's nothing but lightweight feature stories, local sports, and reprints of news from USA Today.

      • EvanAnderson 7 minutes ago
        I think what you have there is cool, but I question if it would be sustainable.

        In a market where "mostly one guy" can cover the beat that might work for awhile, with all the caveats that come from depending on an individual, versus an organization, to do a job.

        In a larger market, where multiple people would be needed to cover the worload, I'm not so sure the funding model would work. I can imagine the subscription fees not keeping up with the step function of adding people to the organization. (You need that 3rd reporter to drive subscription revenue by expanding coverage, but current subscription revenue doesn't support it, so you can't add them.)

      • showerst 13 minutes ago
        I think that's great!

        Maybe that's the answer, hope your town gets one or two good journalists who can live off the pool of people who do care. Then you just hope that they don't get hit by a bus, sell out without you knowing, etc.

        I do wish there was a more systematic market for it though, it's crazy how much value a few reporters can provide just by providing the check on power of asking basic questions to those in power.

      • milofeynman 4 minutes ago
        We have this also. https://coppellchronicle.substack.com/

        Article about it: https://simonowens.substack.com/p/this-local-newsletter-cove...

        40%+ conversion rate on substack.

    • joebe89 0 minutes ago
      Not sure I agree about this, in the UK we have some excellent examples of independent local journalism, for example the Bristol Cable that is funded by readers.
    • altilunium 6 minutes ago
      > "I'm just not sure there's a good solution to this."

      The democratization of local journalism, where anyone can become a reporter: reporting events in the field, interviewing key people, and publishing opinions. With the internet, anyone could set up their own news outlet.

    • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
      For-profit businesses tend to get bloated and eventually succumb to their own growth, one way or another.

      Alternative: Start a newspaper who's goal is to be lean in operations, basically one person per role, and fund raise it from individuals, groups and government subsidies (if those exist in your country).

      Seemingly people are able to fund things like Indie Games via Patreon subscriptions, surely for towns/cities with at least 100,000 people there would be a 1% of the residents interested in local news, right? 1000 people donating 15 EUR a month is already 15,000 EUR, assuming it only gets funded by monthly donations of individuals.

      • komali2 6 minutes ago
        I wonder if a newspaper co-op is a viable idea?

        I do feel like there's a turn happening in the economy, or at least, some new scene growing. Or maybe I'm just finally becoming aware of it. That being, rejection of monopolized products.

        I've never seen so much activity around Linux, for example. Or, I follow a content creator called SkillUp who just launched a videogames news site with revenue purely from subscriptions, and apparently they got way more subs than they expected. And as has been mentioned, lots of indie games have been getting funding lately, and a relatively small studio just crushed the game awards circuit.

      • zeagle 53 minutes ago
        That sounds a lot like a newspaper subscription. I subscribe to my local (physical) paper once a week for this reason.
        • nerdponx 28 minutes ago
          Modern-day patronage is kind of different from a subscription. It's a lot like a "pay what you want" subscription model, but people seem a lot more generous when you express it as a "donation with early access to premium articles" rather than payment for goods and services.
        • embedding-shape 51 minutes ago
          Yeah, as long as you remove the "for-profit" part, it's essentially that. Once it's a for-profit business, it perverses the incentives, and it'll be a race to the bottom or a race to see what subscribers can survive the highest prices, which is exactly what we wanna avoid :)
          • ecshafer 33 minutes ago
            Non-profits don't really stop any of that. Plenty of non-profits are after perverse incentives to gather as much money as they can to just pay higher ups more money, and use the non-profit status to pay employees less.
            • TimTheTinker 20 minutes ago
              Maybe there's a third way. What about a company owned by a "perpetual purpose trust" - i.e. a trust with a defined purpose that is legally binding. It's the only shareholder, so no extracting value and all profits have to comply with the trust's bylaws in how they are used. Patagonia (US company) is one example of this; it's profits are legally bound to go toward environmental causes.

              Bosch and Zeiss in Germany are comparable - they are Verantwortungseigentum (Steward-Ownership).

              • chrisweekly 17 minutes ago
                That sounds kind of like a B-Corp, innit?
          • philipallstar 32 minutes ago
            You just find the optimal point for the most people if it's for profit.
      • DonnyV 54 minutes ago
        Its almost like we should just publicly fund it from the tax people already pay.
        • reliabilityguy 42 minutes ago
          What issue from the listed above public funding would address? Public funding doesn’t prevent the entity to become bloated.
        • Xelbair 31 minutes ago
          It fact you absolutely shouldn't as this put them in huge conflict of interest.

          how will you investigate corruption if your funding can be cut?

        • __MatrixMan__ 44 minutes ago
          I bet we could come up with a list of things we don't like about adtech, tax those behaviors, and give the proceeds to their local competitors.
        • embedding-shape 53 minutes ago
          That's a radical idea! Unfortunately, it gives a lot of ammo to the "anti-socialist" people who are vehemently against anything "public" funded by tax payers. Look at what's happening in the Nordics for example, where pretty much everyone supported public radio/TV at least when I was growing up, but nowadays a bunch of political parties are trying to have it removed/reduced.
          • carlosjobim 42 minutes ago
            Nordic public broadcasting is some of the lowest quality news media you can find. They're not a good example, unless the job of public service media is to only support one or two political parties at all cost (you know which ones).

            Edit: Just an example. The funniest thing they've been doing regularly for decades now is when they go out on the streets with a camera to ask random strangers - the common man - about what they think about some recent development, like "What do you think about Trump?".

            But the "random stranger" common man on the street is actually a politician from the journalist's own party who has dressed up and showed up on a pre-agreed place and time.

    • snarf21 43 minutes ago
      You are 100% right. However, I personally think it is worse than that. Let's just say that local papers found some new feature (no idea what) that could fund local journalism. Do we think the money would be spent to create great journalism or would the money just be taken as profit by posting social media snippets as "news"? I fear that in this post truth world that we don't even have enough people that value the creation of journalism. Most just want to score internet points and get online ad revenue from talking nonsense on their daily podcast. And we've seen that sowing dissent is far far more profitable than creating journalism.

      I work adjacent to an online publication business and freelancers are getting ~$750 for a 1500 word article. I don't know how you get actual journalism at that price. Increasingly we're just going to get people dropping concepts into GPT and editing whatever comes back for 30 minutes. I fear that the only way out would be a single one of the dozens of billionaires to step up and donate a self-sustaining grant towards long term journalism excellence. Unfortunately, the last 10 years have shown that they don't care about the world and just want to make their number go up at any cost necessary.

      • exceptione 39 minutes ago
        We can shake our head at how wild superstition could be in ancient times.

        "Everything needs to be a business model." Maybe the future generations will be more advanced.

      • throwawaysleep 39 minutes ago
        Eh, even when journalism exists, it is generally just ignored by the public.
    • afavour 1 hour ago
      It’s not flawless but public funding for journalism is about the only answer here, I think. In the UK the BBC offers newscasts for different regions of the country… while they don’t exactly do a ton of hard hitting journalism they could if the money was spent more wisely.
    • __MatrixMan__ 47 minutes ago
      People's satisfaction with the internet is on the decline lately, for a variety of reasons. Maybe it'll cross a threshold where opting into a local-only net would be worth doing for enough people.
    • exceptione 44 minutes ago

        > the product is produces is not worth what it costs to produce it.
      
      Media are the fourth estate. As such they are indispensable in a democratic state based on the rule of law.

      How to kill it:

      1. abolish the fairness doctrine. Selling fakes and lies = big profit. => fox news e.a.

      2. Let moneyed interests run the show. Control the narratives => poor people voting for the billionaire interests at their own detriment

        > I'm just not sure there's a good solution to this. 
      
      I am not sure if it is still possible to mention public broadcasting because of dominant narratives ("public service bad, billionaire company good")¹, but left alone they will do a very good job usually.

      1) As an exercise, who sponsors this narrative?

      • snarf21 39 minutes ago
        I fear that in the last decade, even the PBSs of the world have pulled back. They still create content but they have been very loathe to come out against any interest that the billionaire philanthropists might object to.
    • suddenlybananas 44 minutes ago
      this is what taxes are for
      • carlosjobim 40 minutes ago
        If you are fine with your taxes also funding the news channels you hate the most, then sure.
    • EGreg 29 minutes ago
      I never understood why the journalism industry didn't go the way of wikipedia.

      Britannica was the shining example of capitalism, being sold door to door. Encarta was done by Microsoft. Both got disrupted real quick by a million people making little edits to an open encyclopedia. An open-source gift economy with many contributors seems to beat capitalistic systems. Linux. Wordpress. MySQL. In general, science / wikipedia / open source projects also feature peer review before publishing, a desirable trait.

      Everyone has a cellphone. It's not like we need professional cameras to capture things. What we really need is a place to post clips and discuss them in a way that features peer review. It would be better and strictly healthier than the current for-profit large corporations like Meta or X. That's one of the projects I'm building using our technology. Anyone interested, email me (email in my profile)

      Compare:

      1. https://www.laweekly.com/restoring-healthy-communities/

      2. https://www.reuters.com/investigations/meta-is-earning-fortu...

      • GrinningFool 3 minutes ago
        I think you're right to a point, but that "a place to post clips and discuss them" isn't enough. The world is filled with clips that are essentially meaningless or taken out of context to say something different. In addition to aggregation and discussion, research and investigation is required in order to get the story behind the clip.
      • alephnerd 27 minutes ago
        Because people have bills to pay.

        The most dedicated Wikipedians in specific domains often tend to be academics in that space and whose day jobs tend to be adjacent to the niche they edit.

        It's difficult to find the equivalent for local government, because the most knowledge are already active, in the loop, and in the same circles so social ostracism is a real risk if they appear to be hurting relationships by airing dirty laundry.

        The number of people in a Chamber of Commerce, PTA, City Council, School Board, Rotary Club, local Library Foundation, Church Board, Teachers Union leadership, City Workers Union leadership, Police Union leadership, and a couple family offices may number in the 50-100 range, so no one is anonymous.

        And finally, most local news groups are now owned by the 3rd generation of that family, and most of them have either already or are in the process of getting out of the local news business.

        The reality is, if you want to make an impact in your local community (especially politically) you will have to build local relationships and become extremely active in existing cliques - playing golf at the private golf club, attending church or temple, becoming a member of the rotary club, contributing to library foundation fundraisers, become a junior member of the Chamber of Commerce, etc.

  • squeedles 1 hour ago
    This article should be at the core of any discussion about media concentration. The vast consolidation of radio stations is well known, but the same thing has been happening to small local newspapers. In both cases, you end up with a voice speaking to the public from afar, not local people talking to your community about issues that are important to your neighbors.

    At that point, most people just go to the gossip corner of social media and spend the rest of their day being fed six hours of outrage.

  • 999900000999 9 minutes ago
    So the big issue with the entire business model of journalism is it's just too easy to buy influence.

    Jeff Bezos has already reaped many multiples of his investment in the Washington Post.

    For more or less a nominal amount of money to him He's able to shape much of our public discourse.

    I suspect a volunteer non profit news organization could emerge. But even then, how many skilled journalists are going to be able to work a "real" job too.

    • slfnflctd 1 minute ago
      > volunteer non profit news organization [...] skilled journalists

      This could maybe be done with retirees or those who are mostly financially independent, as well as those who want to help run the nonprofit.

      The problem is that in the current climate, it is harder both to retire and to become financially independent.

      If you want the labor of skilled journalists beyond a trickle of content from the ivory tower type, you either need to set up an intentional community or simply pay people enough to live on. I don't see any clear shortcuts. Quality output requires sufficient energy inputs.

  • Popeyes 1 hour ago
    Rightmove, the property sales website, absolutely destroyed local journalism in the UK. It was written on the wall, but local newspapers had all the local listings for property and other services. A local newspaper was 60%+ of house sales, but that advertising revenue paid for local journalists to sit and read council papers and attend meetings and get people out in the community. Nowadays, local journalism, even from national broadcasters like the BBC is a shadow of its former glory.
    • 1a527dd5 1 hour ago
      Yeah I remember going through those pages as a kid; my local "chronicle" had loads in.

      I love Rightmove as a shopper, but it's 2nd-4th order effects have been disastrous.

      There have been attempts to unseat Rightmove (e.g. boomin) but it's such a behemoth in it's industry that is tantamount to wanting to unseat Google.

    • pbronez 50 minutes ago
      It’s interesting that property ads, and classifieds more broadly, benefit from a centralized platform but journalism itself does not. It’s an uneven impact of the technology shift from printing presses to digital. Why didn’t the drop in publishing costs make local journalism MORE accessible?

      Perhaps it did in minor ways. Facebook Groups, NextDoor, CraigsList, etc make it easy for anyone to share information with their neighbors. Turns out most people just want to sell something or complain about nothing. These activities benefit the author but nobody else.

      Local journalism has benefitted a little bit from this dynamic. Regional news organizations put together decent digital platforms and run articles. But they don’t seem to pay as well… again because the revenue spread out.

      Honestly, I’d love to treat local journalism as a public good. Could you fund a credible local newspaper through taxes? It’d be WAY cheaper than a school or police station.

      The problem is: how can you trust part of the government to keep an eye on the rest of the government?

      Perhaps you could impose a mandatory journalism fee based on the municipal budget. Whatever you spend, a sliver goes to the journalists for oversight.

      Local governments spend about $2700 per person. Population of 10,000 means a budget of $27M. Give 1% of that to a journalist and you have $270k… enough for a salary, website and some equipment.

      You could require that money be paid to a non-profit as a grant. Probably better to elect an Editor in Chief though… that way you can appeal directly to the citizens for validation of the oversight. If you just pay a non-profit, they’ll be incentivized to serve whoever writes the grant… which would be the people you’re trying to hold accountable.

      • mywittyname 5 minutes ago
        What you're describing is a lot like NPR. Which was great, until the people in power decided to pull that funding.

        The problem with the government is it doesn't like oversight. So in this situation, you need to devise a scheme where the government is forced to pay something, but also has no control over that money. Which is a hard problem.

  • pastor_williams 1 hour ago
    This is why I subscribe to my local city and regional newspapers. Similar to emailing my representatives about political issues that are of interest to me. It isn't much and I'm just a drop in the ocean but at least it is more than complaining into a void or just reading other's complaints online and getting depressed.

    For more local issues I can really feel like I am making a difference. We have sidewalks all the way to my kids' school and a crosswalk now a year after I made it my cause and messaged city planners and councilmen.

  • maztaim 1 hour ago
    Block Communications just closed two papers in Pittsburgh this year. The Post Gazette has been around since 1786. There are fewer and fewer[1] options available and I suspect this is a disturbing trend across many locations.

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Newspapers_published_...

  • tyjen 39 minutes ago
    It's rare to find local newspapers owned locally, and even rarer to find a local newspaper that's a fair representation of the local population instead of an insulated clique with heavy handed control over what's represented.

    Local online forums dedicated to a locality produce more representative content and everyone can participate as long as their isn't a similar controlling clique in charge of moderation. See /r/Seattle and /r/SeattleWA for how moderation manipulates outcomes. Both perspectives are important, but each clique tends to omit what others deem important; leading to topic over-representation/under-representation problems.

    There's clearly a loss on long forum informational pieces, but your community is misinformed or misrepresented if those pieces only support the motives of the clique.

  • ecshafer 24 minutes ago
    Local journalism is important but I am not really sure how to fix it. Lets say we make a big fund to pay for "independent journalism" at the local level. That only works for so long until people get inside with their own axe to grind and take control. The activist class will eventually get in, become managers and corrupt the organization if its a non-profit. If its a political organization it will have political pressures. If it is a for profit it will have financial incentives that probably cant survive in the modern day in small markets.
  • retrocog 1 hour ago
    This is a topic close to my heart and I've been working with a small team on a solution for a few years and its finally launching into beta now. Hope it works out. If not, back to the drawing board!
  • hunglee2 57 minutes ago
    a geofenced, location verified X-type product would be a good way to bring back local journalism. Users can read, but only have write access if they are within a specific geofence. This would diffuse 'reporting' across the local community - we would have actual citizen reporters which Musk pretends is the case on X - and increase trust that what is happening is actually happening. Tried to build this a decade ago but tech wasn't there. Maybe time has come now?
    • olivia-banks 28 minutes ago
      How does this differ from services like NextDoor? I'm not familiar with it but it sounds similar.
    • retrocog 43 minutes ago
      100% and yes, now the time has come for sure.
  • Cockbrand 34 minutes ago
    Further reading on this, very worthwhile IMHO: Paper Girl by Beth Macy, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_Girl
  • slfreference 1 hour ago
    I think we can safely the problem isn't lack of information at the local or national level. The problem is nobody is taking action on it when informed. It takes only 1 person to report a problem but the responsibility to take action is swallowed by the void, noise and we the people are helpless.

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43877301

  • rsolva 1 hour ago
    Centralisation generally leads to efficiency, but when pushed to far it will corrode core human values.

    Democratic processes will always have to contend with the messiness of humans, and we have to find a balance. Currently I feel the consolidations in many aspect of modern society has been pushed to far. If we keep pushing, we end up in an authoritarian or fascistic state with no wiggle room for the squishy humannesses that is the pesky, but unavoidable ingredient in a vibrant and free democratic society.

  • Scubabear68 1 hour ago
    In my experience, local reporting has stagnated so badly that they now survive by kissing up to whoever is in power. The majority of pieces are puff pieces commissioned by the subject or friend of the subject, be it a school superintendent or local town council or what have you.

    And yes, the bias is heavily to the left. I am very centrist in my views so a left or right leaning bias would be upsetting.

    We live across the river from Bucks County PA in NJ, Bucks County journalism and the NJ equivalent are just shills.

    • alephnerd 38 minutes ago
      Local journalism has always been like this even before the "death" of local journalism. No local publisher would dare risk access to local politicans nor risk public ad revenue.

      This is also why I'm not convinced about public owned or funded journalism that isn't a cooperative, because that only gives additional power to the incumbent who holds the purse strings.

  • b40d-48b2-979e 1 hour ago
    Local journalism has an incentive to serve its audience as they are easily held accountable as such. These media conglomerates do not. They can just shut something down without a care when they disagree with a population and publish unpopular slop (crime news, engagement bait, whatever), and it's suddenly unprofitable.
  • daveaiello 30 minutes ago
    As someone who lives in the Bucks County, Pennsylvania that Stu Faigen calls home, I say that half of the county, which is about 325,000 people, should agree but will disagree because of how strident his politics generally are in favor of politicians and causes from one side of the aisle.

    I say "his politics" but I mean his and those of the other contributors and staff of the Bucks County Beacon. It is a who's who of radical-left Bucks County politics.

    You can't look at the decline in journalism in our country without looking at how one-sided the coverage provided by the journalists has been for the last 40 or 50 years.

    If journalists had taken a neutral political position and called out wrong doing equally, they'd have at least 2x the paying subscriber base now.

    Who knows how that would have affected the secular decline to this point?

    • sjsdaiuasgdia 8 minutes ago
      This breaks down when one half of a two party system goes all-in on lying.

      Reality has a left wing bias because reality is fact-based.

      To take a "neutral" political position in this environment is to accept blatant lies. Journalism should be a pursuit of truthful information, thus being "neutral' politically is untenable if you want to do actual journalism.

      It's true that might not always be the best for your subscriber numbers. But some folks do, actually, care about the truth.

  • dfajgljsldkjag 42 minutes ago
    Did anyone read the article? This is obvious AI Slop. A million em dashes and tons of other chatgpt-isms are all over. This isn't journalism - it's nonsense.

    This is a "reader" submitted article and not written by the staff at the paper. I'm surprised they didn't give it more due diligence though.

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    • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
      Democracy is quite literally "allowed to put up political posters" and "making your voice heard in public", if that's not a part of democracy, what exactly does "democracy" mean to you? Maybe that's easier to talk about, rather than what you think democracy is not.
    • RobotToaster 54 minutes ago
      > democracy is not displaying insulting posters or shouting like mad in the streets

      The supreme court disagrees

      > The Court recognized that "uninhibited, robust, and wide open" political debate can at times be characterized by "vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials."

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_threat

    • marcosdumay 1 hour ago
      Well, yes, rioting is something you do if you want to have democracy. It's not democracy.
    • tclancy 59 minutes ago
      This would be news to the Founding Fathers. If it is allsotiresome, why open an account just to bitch about it?
    • stetrain 1 hour ago
      Of course. Democracy is always doing exactly what the government tells you to do, unquestioningly.
    • rsolva 58 minutes ago
      What is your definition of democracy?
    • gorbachev 1 hour ago
      "Your papers" is also not democracy.
    • master-lincoln 42 minutes ago
      lol, then please tell us what you believe is Democracy
    • pjc50 1 hour ago
      Guess the Iranians are heading in the wrong direction then.
  • khelavastr 50 minutes ago
    "Unless the journalism is too critical, then they're far-right/far-left agitators"
  • josefrichter 1 hour ago
    The murder of Twitter seems to be a part of a greater scheme of things.
    • Levitz 0 minutes ago
      For all that it's worth, from the outside it looks to have undergone a real, notable improvement. The feeling is exacerbated by the dumpster fire at bluesky insisting that it was the worst thing ever and because after the fact, about every default subreddit (which already were in a bad state) are now terminal with politics brainrot.
    • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
      You make it sound like it was involuntary for some reason? Twitter was more of a suicide than anything.
    • zo1 1 hour ago
      Twitter was a dumpster fire of hateful leftist echo chamber activism. X is much better and way more balanced.