Only 5 Sears stores remain in the U.S.

(nytimes.com)

40 points | by bookofjoe 4 days ago

10 comments

  • tkgally 1 hour ago
    The Internet Archive has scans of Sears catalogs from when it was a major mail-order retailer. For example:

    1911: https://archive.org/details/sears-roebuck-catalog-122-spring...

    1922: https://archive.org/details/SearsRoebuckAndCoCatalog1922_201...

    When I was young, they were especially known for their tools:

    1974/1975: https://archive.org/details/SearsCraftsmanPowerAndHandTools1...

    More here:

    https://archive.org/search?query=title%3A%28sears+catalog%29...

    • b112 26 minutes ago
      My house, built in the 60s, is actually 4 Sears cabin kits. The guy bought them, and assembled them end to end, making a long house.

      Same guy dug the original ditch by driving back and forth with his jeep for an hour during spring rain. This gives a perspective on his can do attitude.

      But really, I'm living in the house still, so it can't be that bad.

      • ycombinatrix 7 minutes ago
        >Same guy dug the original ditch by driving back and forth with his jeep for an hour during spring rain.

        wtf? how deep is the ditch?

  • mullingitover 1 hour ago
    The fact that Amazon exists is a testament to the stunning mismanagement of Sears’ corporate leadership in the 90s and early 2000s. They had all the ingredients and instead simply set the company on fire.
    • jonway 52 minutes ago
      Oh yeah they from what I recall they slowly dismantled it after what’s-his-face became ceo. Too big to fail before that.

      By the end, in a lot of their stores they would have people with iPads walking around accepting payment right there in the aisles.

      People also forget that what helps build sears’ reputation was their supply chain and curation, they mostly sold brands of good-quality stuff, a lot made in America too! They would rebrand good but basic quality items (like a wrench or sewing machine, or a shotgun or a guitar) and keep it running for years or decades.

      My dad was given a shotgun in the 1950s, a Remington made sears-brand. It was, apparently, great! He used it a lot for like half a century.

      I feel like a big part of the downfall was the huge lumbering corporate culture unable to cope with JIT supply lines and race to the bottom economies of consumer goods.

      Oh well!

      • b112 15 minutes ago
        I bought a riding lawnmower used, 17 years ago. The mower was very well maintained, engine was good, and already 25 to 30 years old when I bought it.

        I wanted the manual.

        Sears parts still existed, and they shipped me a complete copy of the manual(photocopied) for 10 bucks.

        Manual listed all parts, breakdown, etc. I was able to confidently order parts, keep it running for a decade.

        That was one reason Sears was so liked.

        (for reference, my new mower manual has as much detail, I checked before I bought)

        • metalman 1 minute ago
          I will detail the evil anti machine from sears, combo washer dryer, drop the lid and it breaks the switch, the switch trigger is on the lid with a very long prong, dropped gently it works, fast it breaks, $150 plus service call, where it turns out the prong can be snapped off, leaving a stub that still triggers the switch, but wont break it. Next, the waterpump sits on three bosses, with spring clips, if it ingests anything like a dress sock that WILL go through the machine, it stripps the drive shaft, but AGAIN, the bosses can be snapped off, there is a second place for the spring clipps, and the motor shaft now engages much further, and it will power it's way through whatever. So the standard model was that, and the "heavy duty$$$" model was 3 min snapping of plastic booby traps. pure evil, and very very likely illegal but as someone who can fix/repair or make almost anything, I see this stuff all the time, but of course, today, it's done in the software.
      • lazystar 29 minutes ago
        > I feel like a big part of the downfall was the huge lumbering corporate culture unable to cope with JIT supply lines and race to the bottom economies of consumer goods.

        i think its simpler than that. they got so big that they didnt pay any attention to all the waste, e.g. all the ad time that they spent on the old "I'll call today" A/C commercial.

        • b112 13 minutes ago
          I wonder if those networks had a hard time filling ad orders, so Sears ended up with a massive discount?

          If those ads were pennies compared to other spots, it could be deemed worth it. Parents often are nearby when kids are watching TV.

      • kotaKat 9 minutes ago
        Fun memory and a bit of an internal photo (and a rare shot of PalmOS software from the inside): https://ibb.co/nsVrW0h1

        Sears' jewelry was... definitely marked up. This is from a SNC (SEARS Network Communicator, just a fancy term for their Symbol PDTs) showing true cost on a "$1299" necklace. $1299 down to $324? What a steal! It still only cost Sears a hundred bucks.

    • lazystar 31 minutes ago
      i think the infamous "I'll call now" air conditioner commercial in the '90s was a canary/sign of the mismanagement that was occurring. This commercial played during every commercial break on cartoon network, nickelodean, and the disney channel. Ive long wondered... how many kids bought AC units from sears?

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4rqZZgVxnCk&pp=ygUMaWxsIGNhbGw...

      • kotaKat 12 minutes ago
        Figure though: how many kids would then run around the house screaming 'another scorcher!' and 'call now!' on a hot summer's day?

        The weird market of things-on-kids-channels-for-adults was always to try to turn the kid on the parent to use them to close the sale ;)

    • jbs789 58 minutes ago
      The internet was a paradigm shift… full of unknowns. I think you are underestimating those challenges. We only speak about Amazon now because it was the one that survived.
      • shit_game 28 minutes ago
        pets.com also failed to make it through the "carcinization" of online retail, but wasnt nearly as notable a failure because it was attempting to start an online retail business from the ground up, versus Sears' failure to adopt online retail to their already-successful B&M model. I think the Sears mode of failure is much more spectacular because it had previously thrived on a business model that's almost analgous to Amazon's, threw it away, and failed to recognize it could be effective again.
  • LeoPanthera 1 hour ago
    At one point Sears owned an ISP, a bank, and a nationwide stock tracking and distribution system.

    They were Amazon before Amazon, but just didn’t realize it.

    • decimalenough 43 minutes ago
      It's even more ironic than that, since Sears was the Amazon of 1800s: they were America's largest mail order business and even IPO'd (1906) long before they opened their first brick and mortar storefront. You could buy anything and everything by mail from the famous Sears Catalog, up to and including entire homes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sears_Modern_Homes
    • mulmen 22 minutes ago
      I think they did realize it and tried as hard as they could and still failed. I was a Sears salesperson in 2003 and 2004. The whole operation took itself very seriously and embraced the internet and technology. They just… failed. I’d love to know how they missed because everything was in their favor.
  • klipklop 1 hour ago
    Intentionally destroyed to get access to its real estate. I dunno how the CEO is not behind bars for what he did.
    • jbs789 1 hour ago
      I think it would have been hard to recover but yeah when Lampert got involved it was all about the financial engineering rather than the operations. I bought the shares around then but sold soon after, turned off by the conflicts and the lack of focus on ops.
    • kristopolous 1 hour ago
      Our obligation is to personal profit at the expense of everything else.

      This is empirically the default operational behavior. It should always be assumed as opposed to our current strategy of always being baffled and shocked that it happens.

      We could be serious about this and restructure incentives away from naked kleptocracy to avoid it.

      I mean we never will, but we could...

      • dv_dt 53 minutes ago
        If the passive investor class wanted more and better options to collect profits with low long-term risk they would actually support that kind of restructure - but alas it's all very short=sighted profit taking now that actually hurts long term growth.

        It's no small irony that Buffet's retirement aligns with the close out as an iconic holdout of long view valuation - even his more recent moves I think showed some retreat from his previous values. Perhaps not really his direct fault, but he had fewer and fewer good investment options as time went by.

        • b00ty4breakfast 29 minutes ago
          the problem is that every time the shortsightedness crashes the economy, the rest of us have to bail them out and the thing keeps on chooglin. They have no incentives to behave otherwise
  • anon_cow1111 30 minutes ago
    Mildly related, but I think this is a good time for our yearly moment of silence for Radioshack.

    The OLD Radioshack, obviously.

  • bookofjoe 4 days ago
  • ericpp 4 days ago
    Meanwhile Sears is still thriving in Mexico under different ownership.
  • wkat4242 4 days ago
    What did they sell? A bit of everything?
    • silisili 1 hour ago
      Literally almost everything, up to and including entire houses. I've lived in two Sears houses, great quality stuff if not a bit small by modern tastes.

      When I was a kid it was normal for parents to let their kids read the huge yearly Sears catalog to get ideas or pick gifts. By then they'd stopped selling items like firearms and houses but had pretty much everything else.

      If they had the foresight, they should have become a better version of what Amazon is now.

      • cwyers 1 hour ago
        Ironically they had the foresight, they were just too early/didn't execute. They ran an online service (co-owner with IBM and CBS) called Prodigy that competed with AOL and CompuServ, and they tried to do online shopping there.
        • nrhrjrjrjtntbt 1 hour ago
          Everyone is talking like creating Amazon was some kind of low hanging citrus to be picked from the tree.
          • 100721 1 hour ago
            For a company that had Sears’ positioning at the time? It wasn’t far off from that description.
            • nrhrjrjrjtntbt 1 hour ago
              But a lot of stuff had to be invented and Bezos was the person to do it. Amazon sounded intense to work for to get to where it is.
    • glimshe 1 hour ago
      The original Sears was the Amazon of the 20th century.
      • nubinetwork 1 hour ago
        I would argue that they were a lot like Walmart (when Walmart was starting out)... clothes, electronics, sporting/seasonal goods... then they ventured out into additional services like family photography, optometry, pharmacy... really, the only difference was the mail order catalog.
        • anon_cow1111 38 minutes ago
          I was there, 3000 years ago when Walmart didn't even sell groceries, I still remember mom commenting "It feels weird buying food at Walmart now and not even going to [regional grocery chain]".

          And now, decades later everything is full circle. I avoid Walmart and Amazon like the plague and try to only shop at smaller outlets, whether brick-and-mortar or online. It might be slightly more expensive but I assume that's just the tax you pay to avoid a corporate monopoly hellscape.

  • awaymazdacx5 28 minutes ago
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