Debian's Git Transition

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63 points | by all-along 7 hours ago

4 comments

  • ckastner 1 hour ago
    There is some nuance to this. Adding comments to the stated goal "Everyone who interacts with Debian source code (1) should be able to do so (2) entirely in git:

    (1) should be able does not imply must, people are free to continue to use whatever tools they see fit

    (2) Most of Debian work is of course already git-based, via Salsa [1], Debian's self-hosted GitLab instance. This is more about what is stored in git, how it relates to a source package (= what .debs are built from). For example, currently most Debian git repositories base their work in "pristine-tar" branches built from upstream tarball releases, rather than using upstream branches directly.

    [1]: https://salsa.debian.org

  • Valodim 2 hours ago
    Oh, yes. This seems like nothing short of necessary for the long term viability of the project. I really hope this effort succeeds, thank you to everyone pushing this!
  • hu3 1 hour ago
  • mschuster91 2 hours ago
    Now if a consequence of that could be that one (as an author of a piece of not-yet-debianized software) can have the possibility to decently build Debian packages out of their own repository and, once the package is qualified to be included in Debian, trivially get the publish process working, that would be a godsend.

    At the moment, it is nothing but pain if one is not already accustomed and used to building Debian packages to even get a local build of a package working.

    • kpcyrd 52 minutes ago
      The problem is that "once the package is qualified to be included in Debian" is _mostly_ about "has the package metadata been filled in correctly" and the fact that all your build dependencies also need to be in Debian already.

      If you want a "simple custom repository" you likely want to go in a different direction and explicitly do things that wouldn't be allowed in the official Debian repositories.

      For example, dynamic linking is easy when you only support a single Debian release, or when the Debian build/pkg infrastructure handles this for you, but if you run a custom repository you either need a package for each Debian release you care about and have an understanding of things like `~deb13u1` to make sure your upgrade paths work correctly, or use static binaries (which is what I do for my custom repository).

    • rjsw 1 hour ago
      They could take a look at how pkgsrc [1] works.

      [1] https://www.pkgsrc.org/

      • eduction 33 minutes ago
        pkgsrc is great, I use this on smartos (as just an end user) and it’s extremely straightforward