My payment agent is named George, not stripe-agent

(blog.kestrelsnest.social)

49 points | by fortyseven 3 days ago

13 comments

  • yellow_lead 6 hours ago
    Please disclose AI use, or the name of your "writing agent" at least, so I can know to skip the article. So much "it's not X it's Y" in this post, I'm losing it.

    > This isn’t whimsy; it’s how I remember who the work is actually for.

    > These aren’t chatbots with personalities; they’re specialized configurations I invoke by name to focus my intent.

    > That’s when I realized the naming wasn’t a quirk. It was a practice.

    It is a quirk

    > I’m not asking for a generic security scan. I’m saying that I need to look for what I missed.

    You aren't asking for a generic security scan? It seems like you're asking for a generic security scan.

    > I need to look for what I missed. I need to find the secret traveling farther than it should, the data leaking where it shouldn’t, the assumption I made that an attacker won’t make. I need to be paranoid on behalf of the users whose data and trust I’m protecting.

    > The names aren’t just labels. They’re invocations. They shape my intent before the work even starts.

    They are just labels.

    • furyofantares 4 hours ago
      At least right now it's mostly in AI-related articles. Scroll any AI article and have a look at the number of topic headings as well as how many start with the word "The". I have my defenses up on any AI articles and can quickly avoid the are LLM-output with aesthetic clues. An upfront disclosure would of course be better.

      Unfortunately other topics are still catching me off guard, like the article about complex numbers posted today which I managed to get through a third of before realizing all the grating bits I was reading were because it was from an LLM.

    • xarope 3 hours ago
      literally anthropomorphizing AI agents.

      To be fair, I certainly name my tools. But I didn't have to use AI to invent a whole bunch of "personalities" for them.

  • pooper 8 hours ago
    I appreciate the writer actually taking the time to explain why `george`. I have worked in some projects where some thing-a-majing or another is called `valhalla` or `thor` or something or another but there is no documentation as to why it is called that and the people who were responsible for naming them so have already ridden into the sunset. If I ever meet him, I "just want to talk" to this CTO who named US East region 2 as "eu2".
    • zdragnar 7 hours ago
      The problem is that, in any organization past a few people, someone will eventually wonder if they were the inspiration for a particular name, and not in a good way, or someone might introduce politics or something else divisive.

      It's better to have arbitrary names that are memorable in some way but not common enough to be associated with someone living within recent memory.

      IMHO, YMMV, yada yada

      • ryandrake 6 hours ago
        > someone might introduce politics or something else divisive.

        Reminds me of a project I was peripherally involved with many moons ago. The codename for the project was "Tardis" from Doctor Who. No problem there. But we ended up having to redo a significant portion of it later, and someone had the bright idea of changing the redo codename to "ReTardis". It was hilariously juvenile at the time, but I could see how, decades later as society gotten less tolerant of that kind of humor, the codename probably has become objectionable.

        • whatevermom2 3 hours ago
          Maybe I'm bad but I find this really funny in 2025
    • striking 8 hours ago
      It's the sequel to EU. EU 2.
      • philwelch 6 hours ago
        But EU5 has been out for over a month now
        • SunlitCat 6 hours ago
          When will EU6 release be? :D
    • khannn 6 hours ago
      The only reason I can think of is to not duplicate AWS's "us-east-2" region name
    • AtheistOfFail 8 hours ago
      > I "just want to talk" to this CTO who named US East region 2 as "eu2".

      How? Logically I don't get it.

      • silisili 8 hours ago
        Not OP... all I could come up with is they didn't remember US east vs east US, so landed on EU2 meaning 'east US 2.'
      • hdjrudni 7 hours ago
        How does one person talk to another person who named a thing? Well, you can either meet in person and use your mouths, or you can pick up a phone....

        (I'm genuinely confused by the "How?" question)

      • tomjakubowski 7 hours ago
        Eastern US 2
      • jpollock 8 hours ago
        Consider multinational orgs - "EU2", and collisions with English when speaking "you too".
  • minitech 5 hours ago
    > The tech industry loves to abstract away the human. Users become “MAUs.” Problems become “pain points.” Customers become “conversions.”

    The LLM loves to torture concepts into statements with pithy veneers and three-item. Punctuated. Lists. “Pain points” as an example, really? All of these terms are just more specific than the ones they’re contrasted with, which don’t have much of a human element to them to begin with.

    The irony of bemoaning this while AI-mimicking a team of people and getting a computer to write for you in its own voice…

  • hoppp 7 hours ago
    George, Ray, Agatha... Ok As long as you are the only one managing these systems. But the moment you involve other people, this is the worst naming possible.
    • handoflixue 7 hours ago
      If a new hire can handle "Talk to George, he's our security guy" then "Talk to George, it's our security LLM" shouldn't be that much harder?
      • itake 6 hours ago
        Human names need meta data. People see the job title of "head of security research" in Workday or Slack.

        For new hires (or people in other orgs), shouldn't need long product descriptions trying to explain team lingo means.

        • handoflixue 3 hours ago
          Maybe at a large company that's the case, but plenty of mid-sized offices will tell you "oh, everyone knows Susan is the one you talk to about security code" even though Susan's title is just "programmer" like everyone else.

          It's not like a list of six LLM sub-agents is difficult to hand out, and there's even a public blog post detailing the names, specializations, and rationale for this in case you somehow forget and can't just /list-agents or whatever.

          • itake 1 hour ago
            all big companies used to be small companies. I once worked at a company where the original developers thought it would be cute to name everything star wars themed.
      • philwelch 6 hours ago
        I think the natural expectation is that someone named George is a human being.
        • handoflixue 3 hours ago
          So? It's a little eccentric, but plenty of people give names like this to their computers, cars, boats, pets, etc. and no one seems to struggle with that.
  • GZGavinZhao 9 hours ago
    As the end of the article says, to the author this is more of a "ritual".

    I don't know how effective it is, but I can't imagine this would undermine the quality of the output, so if it adds a little bit of humor and human-ness to my workflow, I'm happy to try it out.

  • ryze20245 8 hours ago
    > I added Helen to my roster just this week.
    • decotz 8 hours ago
      yeah. cringe. I debate with myself is this Aghata can truly be trusted to be > I need to find the secret traveling farther than it should, the data leaking where it shouldn’t, the assumption I made that an attacker won’t make. I need to be paranoid on behalf of the users whose data and trust I’m protecting.

      at the end of the day its still an llm. but hey, I want to call Claude _Claudius_ all the time but I don't cause it'll shut me down real quick

  • 4b11b4 5 hours ago
    I haven't written myself a Claude agent nor a skill nor a plugin yet, but when I do, I'm going to name it well.

    As I've been asking Claude to "keep planning criticize ultrathink" very often and repeatedly, maybe I'll make a planning agent, one that helps me shepherd each plan well.

  • handoflixue 7 hours ago
    I'd be very curious to see what sort of code / prompting goes in to these agents, and what sort of results you see from them - is the name just a personal reminder, or do the LLM subagents incorporate these philosophies? What sort of behavioral changes do you see from this method?
  • fragmede 8 hours ago
    There are only two unsolved problems in computer science. Cache invalidation and naming things. And off-by-one errors.
  • orliesaurus 7 hours ago
    It's a good way to name your agents, who do they help/work for... Smart move
  • ChrisMarshallNY 7 hours ago
    Dehumanize humans, and humanize non-humans.

    Makes sense to me…

    But seriously, naming things is always a sticky wicket.

    I tend to name my various devices as characters from Glen Cook’s The Black Company.

    My iPhone is Thai Dei, my iPad is Soulcatcher, my Watch is Goblin, and my Mac is Mogaba. It helps me to keep them distinct from my simulators.

    If I wanted really crazy names, I’d use Garret P.I. As a source.

    • loufe 6 hours ago
      First in-the-wild reference I've seen to some of my favourite books. I feel your watch as Goblin makes more sense if it's stuck around with you for a long time and generally works but is a bit of a pain to use. Thanks for the share.
    • peterldowns 6 hours ago
      Great books! Strongly recommend for anyone into fantasy stuff.
      • ChrisMarshallNY 3 hours ago
        And they are still coming!

        I just finished Lies Weeping, which is #12, I think. There’s 2 more on the way. I suspect they are already written.

  • sverhagen 8 hours ago
    > This isn’t whimsy

    Uh, yes it is? It's just whimsy with an explanation. Long live descriptive, preferably short, names.

    • handoflixue 7 hours ago
      It's also a reminder - we're not just here for the surface concept of X, we're here for the deeper philosophical reasons of Y and Z. The goal isn't to check off a "disability accessible" checkbox, it isn't even to "think how disabled people might use this" - it's to be actually accessible to all the actual people with actual disabilities.

      Trust me, there are a a LOT of people who need this reminder.

      I'd expect the difference in prompts produces significantly different LLM outputs, too - tell an LLM to check boxes and it won't show much initiative, but give it a philosophy and it will often suggest ideas you missed.

  • Vpsteroski 8 hours ago
    George? IDK