Bouncing Beholder, my winning JS1K entry (2012)

(marijnhaverbeke.nl)

72 points | by wonger_ 149 days ago

8 comments

  • calibas 149 days ago
    > I've heard people wax poetic about programming old, limited-memory machines. I wouldn't know anything about those---at the time they were current, I was writing rudimentary number-guessing games in BASIC. But doing this competition entry gave me a taste of what they might be talking about.

    One rather big difference here though, the limitation is on the size of the code, not the compiled binary. Most of the "optimizations" here have little to no effect on the code after it's compiled.

    With older computers, instead of removing line breaks from the code, you're doing things like tweaking compiler flags to shrink the size.

    • TazeTSchnitzel 149 days ago
      With older computers you're handwriting assembly generally if you actually want to get the most out of them.
      • ASalazarMX 149 days ago
        I think he meant for competitions that judge binary size. Handwritten assembly could even increase the size (like unfolding loops) and it wouldn't matter if the speed was improved.
  • jitl 149 days ago
    This person is also the author of CodeMirror and ProseMirror, the best choices in my opinion for plain text editing and rich text editing respectively for the web platform
    • degun 149 days ago
      Also, the author of "Eloquent JavaScript", the book from which I learned the language. Endless respect for Marijn.
  • madflame991 149 days ago
    I can't recommend "return true to win" (https://alf.nu/ReturnTrue) enough to learn how to golf JS. I think it's more accessible to learn one 10-20 char snippet at a time than a big project like a 1k submission.
  • kookamamie 149 days ago
    To those it was not obvious - the result of the entry is the top banner, a keyboard-controllable "game".
  • KingOfCoders 149 days ago
    I wrote boot sector stuff (1k) on the Amiga (68k assembler). Today I wonder if I could have written a game (tech wise and skill wise).
  • mohsen1 149 days ago
    I did a JS1K back in the day [1] such a fun concept!

    I wonder these days if anyone is using multi-character emoji (don't know what do you call those exactly) to compress more data in 1024 "bytes"?

    Since HackerNews does not allow emojis, here is a demo of what I mean:

    https://output.jsbin.com/nebemihuhe

    [1] https://js1k.com/2013-spring/demo/1426

    • gorkish 149 days ago
      “Bytes” is not an arbitrary definition in the contest. Any use of an emoji takes 4 bytes. Some of these new combined ones can be 25+ bytes when accounting for zero width joiners, variant selectors, and modifiers. Technically you can pack nearly as much data as you like into a single legal Unicode glyph (think infinite zalgo text) if you just want to have the thought experiment.

      Unicode is a nightmare, but I’m glad everyone agrees to share the same nightmare.

      • mohsen1 149 days ago
        That explains it!
    • leptons 149 days ago
      Go have a look at https://beta.dwitter.net - many of the examples there use this technique to fit more than 140 bytes into the "dweet" (many are also less than 140 characters, so don't need to use this compression technique). There is a convenient "compressed" switch to "decompress" the code. The rule on dwitter.net is no more than 140 characters (not 140 bytes).
    • lifthrasiir 149 days ago
      For the record, JS1024 [1] is a de-facto spiritual successor to JS1K nowadays.

      [1] https://js1024.fun/

    • kristopolous 149 days ago
    • rounce 149 days ago
      There are ways of using actual compression to pack demos: https://archive.is/8KzKA
  • rob74 149 days ago
  • 66yatman 138 days ago
    Marijn wants to eat all the money . Love you bro.