Make the most of your burl

(cindydrozda.com)

104 points | by michael_forrest 183 days ago

16 comments

  • aczerepinski 182 days ago
    I adore burl. Burl coffee tables, cell phone cases, jewelry boxes, guitars, you name it.

    I should start taking classes now so that I’ll be ready to pivot to woodworking when AI replaces engineers.

    • dyauspitr 182 days ago
      Ha it’s already a severely impacted field. Every other computer programmer that doesn’t live in a city is a woodworker.
      • weard_beard 181 days ago
        I highly recommend Frank Howarth’s YouTube channel. I could watch him work for days and he is a great introduction to everything wood turning, from artistic inspiration of wood choice to tools and process. He’s just a pleasure to watch.
      • fragmede 182 days ago
        sounds like there's a market for a woodshop in the city, gym membership style.
        • femto 181 days ago
          Men's Sheds if you're in Australia.

          https://mensshed.org/

        • senderista 182 days ago
          There's already one in Seattle: https://www.isgoodwoodworks.com/
        • dyauspitr 182 days ago
          They have those but it’s never the same in a shared space.
        • aczerepinski 181 days ago
          My town (Madison WI) has one. You can rent time or do classes. I kind of want to do it but I already have too many hobbies.
        • op00to 182 days ago
          Isn’t that what maker spaces are?
          • pimlottc 182 days ago
            Maker spaces tend to focus on high-tech tools, like 3D printers, laser cutters, electronic cutters (cricut/silhouette), etc. Some also have woodshops but that's less common and typically requires more space.
            • jspash 181 days ago
              In the UK there are maker spaces of all varieties. But you are right, woodworking spaces need room for the equipment. If you are a hand-tool only woodworker, then there isn't really a need to use someone else's (unsharpened) tools.

              I'd love to see a site like this for the US, Canada and/or Europe. https://openworkshopnetwork.com/

  • abeppu 182 days ago
    So the works Cindy displays are beautiful but is wood turning the way to "make the most of your burl"? I feel like there's a value that's related the surface area you can get out of a given burl. If you have a burl, are you better off trying to cut thin panels with parallel slices? With turning, though a skilled artisan can produce a beautiful result, don't you lose out on a lot of volume?
    • MarkMarine 182 days ago
      It is really really difficult to make any thing from a burl that is within the range of a hobbyist that isn’t turned. The grain is impossible, and they are really hard so working it with normal tools (a hand plane or a spoke shave) is just going to tear out as the direction of grain changes. I’ve never seen a veneer cutter that could handle a burl that was within hobbyist reach, but a lathe is going to cost you under 1000$ and probably under 500$ if you get a used one with good capacity.
  • tossit444 181 days ago
    I'm assuming this is a video, but I see nothing on the page signifying there is supposed to be one.
  • echelon 182 days ago
    I can't watch the video, so I had to look this up:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burl

    Woodworking with these.

    In a previous life I did genetic engineering with agrobacterium-mediated transfection. Agro causes galls. Good blast from the past.

  • ejs 182 days ago
    This is great.

    I used to avoid burl when I would make wood rings [1]. It's just very hard to predict how it'll behave if you try to steam bend it.

    [1] https://woodaround.com

    • aaronblohowiak 182 days ago
      why'd you stop?
      • ejs 182 days ago
        Took too much time
        • chias 182 days ago
          Those are beautiful! And I love the way you get seemingly continuous grain all the way around. If you no longer work on these, I would love to learn more about the processes you use for the pressure infusing and the finishing.
  • ggm 183 days ago
    Once in high school woodwork class I had to make an artificial burl out of scraps to try and show off some wood turning fu I didn't actually have. Open day does that: look like you know what you're doing.

    Eric Sloane would have loved this, it's a true reverence for wood.

  • NoboruWataya 182 days ago
    Wonderfully early 00s-style website.
  • eitally 182 days ago
    I highly recommend this National Geographic series, Filthy Riches. It has an episode about "burl hunters".

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3654672/

  • michael_forrest 183 days ago
    This is an absolute masterclass in remote presentation. Cindy does incredible work.
  • jumploops 182 days ago
    This is awesome.

    My wife wanted a wooden engagement ring, and so I fashioned one (well ~10) out of a Pacific madrone burl.

    Great material to work with, but wouldn’t recommend wooden bands unless your actual wedding is near!

    • vvvv 182 days ago
      Why not?
      • jumploops 182 days ago
        Unless you use an epoxy of some sort, they’re quite prone to breaking over time — I only used natural beeswax.

        (Plus, quite a few broke while I was iterating on my technique…)

        To be clear, this is one of the reasons my then-girlfriend wanted one, to ensure a speedy engagement!

      • bradly 182 days ago
        If they are made by cutting a ring shape out of wood, the grain is too weak for long term wear.

        I more common method for wooden rings is to cut a long thin rip at 1/16th”. Soak it water for 30 minutes. Wrap it around something finger size, put a rubber band around it and let it dry. You can get a good imitation of a glossy epoxy finish with CA/super glue. This gives a lot more strength than a cutout.

        • UniverseHacker 181 days ago
          Why not just use epoxy? It’s pretty easy to work with.
          • bradly 174 days ago
            > Why not just use epoxy? It’s pretty easy to work with.

            CA glue is easier for me to work with than epoxy and has done a fine job for me.

          • ehaskins 181 days ago
            Thin CA will wick into the grain of thin veneers acting as a stabilizer. Epoxy is thicker and doesn't penetrate as deeply.

            There are methods to get epoxy deeper, but they require significant equipment. Search for "stabilized wood" if you're curious.

            • UniverseHacker 180 days ago
              I don't think that is true- I build and restore both wooden and fiberglass boats with epoxy, and have used it in almost every possible way. There are different thicknesses of epoxy with different properties, but the ones specially designed for penetrating deeply into wood - such as clear penetrating epoxy sealer will indeed penetrate extremely deep into wood, the manufacturer claims 9-16". In practice, almost any epoxy will penetrate at least 1" into wood.

              If anything, epoxy often has too much penetration, and I end up doing a first coat or two that disappear fully into the wood, and another thickened one so it actually stays on the surface or joint.

      • jpollock 182 days ago
        Fingers change size, but wooden rings can't be stretched.
        • aziaziazi 182 days ago
          They can be sanded, just get a thick ring!
          • jpollock 181 days ago
            Yes, but that's generally not something you want to be doing the week before a wedding. It's _very_ easy to forget to do, and hard for the best man to run around and fix while you panic.

            I had enough trouble SHINING MY SHOES. :)

  • ada1981 181 days ago
    I passed this up for the last few days thinking BURL was some obscure programming term / language. Really glad I decided to investigate today!
  • csours 182 days ago
    I spent a week burl hunting with my uncle in Alaska. Good times! (except for the mosquitos)
    • Loughla 182 days ago
      I used to find burls with a neighbor. He was an amazing wood turner.

      He told me to do it for extra money, so one summer I went off on my own to start cutting them.

      And that's the story of how I learned that sometimes burls form when a tree grows around a fence post. Alternate title: Stihl chainsaws can't cut steel fencing.

      • _heimdall 182 days ago
        We have quite a few nice looking burls on our property and its the exact same story.

        Most of them are old fence lines where someone decided attaching barbed wife directly to gum and hickory trees was a good idea.

      • quercusa 182 days ago
        There's that ever-so short moment between "Man, this wood is hard!" and "Oh, crap"
      • rolph 182 days ago
        i use a metal detector. some of these trees can be a stash[cashe] and you may encounter things hidden long ago, most of them not good for your chain, some of them not good for you.
  • toolslive 182 days ago
    Buck eye burl tops are quite common in custom shop guitars and basses.
    • shermantanktop 182 days ago
      It’s essentially thick veneer.

      Veneer gets a bad rap but it’s a great way to make highly-figured wood available to as many people as possible. And since burl and spalted woods are often unstable or have big pits or cracks, it’s a good way to avoid structural problems.

  • RickJWagner 181 days ago
    Burled wood banjo resonators look great.