OpenAI spent $10M on chat.com URL

(theverge.com)

46 points | by segasaturn 243 days ago

12 comments

  • uses 243 days ago
    Someone educated me on this type of thing a while back. Chat.com - and other highly reusable URLs - is a non-deteriorating asset that has a value on OpenAI's ledger somewhere. It's not like they bought $10,000,000 worth of catering or fuel or labor even buildings. Because someday, the owning entity can sell it for about what they spent on it. And I imagine there is some kind of financial instrument to take out a loan with the domain as collateral. My point is, it's not really like they "spent" the money as much as they just parked it in a domain name.
    • solarkraft 243 days ago
      That it keeps its value is a huge assumption.
      • xp84 243 days ago
        GP said highly reusable URLs. Roughly by definition, it's enduringly desirable. It is valuable in a way that say, Kmart dot com is not, since it has an open-ended set of uses. I chose the Kmart example because that domain is associated with a specific brand that's universally known to be irrelevant, which caps its value to whatever cash one could make "redirect to affiliate links" generate with random legacy traffic it gets. You wouldn't use it for a dating site, or even for a grocery delivery startup.

        A 'temporarily reusable' tier might be something like "DVD dot com" or "rtx dot com" or something -- presumably there's a lot less money in DVD than there was 20 years ago, and presumably raytracing won't be an exciting high-end thing people are excited about 20 years from now. They're valuable and quite reusable at one point, but could become low-value by the time the company decides to unload them.

        • sigmoid10 243 days ago
          I'd say any single syllable common english word .com url has a high intrinsic value that will not go down unless english stops being the de facto lingua franca of the internet.
      • whalesalad 243 days ago
        Four letter English word, .com tld, it will certainly hold its value.
        • tylergetsay 242 days ago
          Is it really "owned"? Couldn't ICANN change the rules around ownership which would decrease its value?
          • csomar 230 days ago
            That will throw a nuclear bomb on the whole .com. Things are already not that good with the US being able to seize .com. I don't think ICANN pulling something off will make it better.
      • sirspacey 243 days ago
        A four letter doc com that has become the verb for AI.

        Not that huge.

    • amadeuspagel 242 days ago
      I think they can't just sell that domain anymore, without allowing some scam to take it over. It's associated with their brand now.
    • paulddraper 243 days ago
      They definitely bought it.

      Though you are correct it is a durable asset. (As are buildings.)

  • echoangle 243 days ago
    Correction for the title:

    They spent more than $15.5 million, according to the article

  • tester756 243 days ago
    I do wonder what the RoI is here

    15M is like one month of salaries for 500 engineers, so like 40% of their whole eng. team

    • eejjjj82 242 days ago
      In Q3 2024 Google spent $7.2B on "Sales & Marketing Expenses". The data is not broken down more granularly. If 50% of that is pure "Marketing Expense" then you'll see that the scale of the market these players are competing for is worth $3.5B PER QUARTER in operating expenses to attract customers.

      https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1652044/000165204424...

      If you add a $15M one time capital expense to this then it doesn't even appear as a rounding error on this cash flow statement.

      Acquiring a long term asset acting as a pillar of your marketing strategy then it begins to look like a very good deal.

      • tester756 242 days ago
        Sure, you can have very sound theory to justify that

        But how do we measure it? How can we tell that it was successful / good idea or not?

        Even things like what is the difference between "chat.com" and "chat.ai"?

        Would "chat.ai" for 1M be more efficient than "chat.com" for 15M?

    • k2xl 238 days ago
      Not to dispute the main point you are making, but that's assuming 360K salary. OpenAI engineers make significantly more than that.
  • amadeuspagel 242 days ago
    Based. I hope they plaster this on billboards everywhere. Bring back the dotcom. I'm tired of seeing people advertise names and then hearing them whine that someone else advertises for the name on Google or that people search the app store and find some kind of wrapper.
    • tmpz22 242 days ago
      Dotcom is really expensive. It prices out entrepreneurs who aren’t independently wealthy or take on usurious venture capital terms.
  • mpaepper 243 days ago
    On X it was mentioned that the seller received part of the compensation in OpenAI stock.
  • ChrisArchitect 243 days ago
  • Amir6 242 days ago
    This domain was purchased by Dharmesh Shah (HubSpot’s cofounder and CTO) for 8 million a couple of months ago.
  • blitzar 243 days ago
    Naming rights for a stadium up next surely?
    • xp84 243 days ago
      Yeah what did they do with that FTX stadium? :D
  • pixelsort 243 days ago
    Could I get 1% as much for snugchat.com? Tempting, but I think I'd still rather build it out; especially now.
  • kyawzazaw 243 days ago
    definitely more than that
  • rcxdude 243 days ago
    shades of .com bubble
  • red2awn 243 days ago
    "Chat (formerly ChatGPT)"
    • JumpCrisscross 243 days ago
      Deprecating ChatGPT as a brand would be the stupidest marketing decision since New Coke.
      • xp84 243 days ago
        Yes, but not for the same reason. IMHO the stupid part would be because they can't get a trademark on a completely generic term, so 1000 competitors and knockoffs would be diluting their brand equity and SEO.
      • amadeuspagel 242 days ago
        New Coke was actually a terrific marketing decision. Before New Coke, Pepsi was about to take over. New Coke made people realize how much they loved the old coke.
      • burgerrito 243 days ago
        Wait until you found out about X