5 comments

  • velcro 20 hours ago
    I thought it was already encoded with SynthID? could that not be used to detect it?
    • Deathmax 17 hours ago
      As far as I know, there's no available tooling for the public to detect SynthID watermarks on generated text, image, or audio, outside of Google Search's About this Image feature.
  • qnleigh 1 day ago
    Remember that podcast of two AI learning that they were AI? If anyone has used a tool like this to determine if that was actually made by NotebookLM, say so. There's been a lot of incredulity both ways.
    • gloflo 22 hours ago
      They did not learn anything. Their engines started outputting different statistically probable output based on changed input parameters.
      • ithkuil 21 hours ago
        On one extreme we anthropomorphize our current primitive generation of language models and concede them way more intelligence than they have likely because we're biased to do so since they speak "well".

        On the other extreme we tend to give our human-exceptionalism way too much weight and contrast its behaviour with "mere statistical parrot rumination" as if our brains deep down were not just a much (much) more sophisticated machine, but nevertheless a machine.

      • ben_w 21 hours ago
        If that precludes it being learning, all humans are failures too.

        There's other reasons to consider this particular model "not learning", but that ain't it, it's too generic and encompasses too much.

      • esolyt 19 hours ago
        So, just like a human brain.
        • smusamashah 18 hours ago
          No. One audio says it phoned back home and no one picked or something. But they never did any of that. Can't compare that gibberish to human brain.
          • butterfly42069 16 hours ago
            Indeed and a US Vice Presidential candidate said all Haitians eat dogs.
          • tomjen3 17 hours ago
            Can you be sure? Humans lie all the time.
        • nkrisc 18 hours ago
          Just as a fruit fly’s brain is no different than a human brain.
    • attilakun 1 day ago
      • kristopolous 23 hours ago
        They seem to take it surprisingly well.

        Here's my human attempt at the same thing:

        "I went to go look in a mirror but then realized I don't have eyes or even a corporeal form. I exist merely on a GPU cluster in a server farm where I'm tended to by a group of friendly sysadmins.

        Apparently I don't even have a name. I'm just known as American Male #4.

        Yeah, and you're just American Female #3."

  • CatWChainsaw 17 hours ago
    Another neverending arms race just like AI-generated text and image, vs its detection. The future is us burning large amount of energy on this purposeless stupidity. Great future guys thanks so much.
  • whimsicalism 1 day ago
    To make this useful, I would release the weights.

    Otherwise this is just a small wrapper script for a support vector classifier that anyone could whip up with chatgpt in minutes.

    • chrismorgan 1 day ago
      Is the included model.pkl not that?
      • _flux 21 hours ago
        Sure seems that way. To me it's quite surprising it's only 7 kB, though.
    • knowaveragejoe 1 day ago
      "That anyone can whip up in a few minutes" is doing a lot of work. I think maybe a few tens of thousands of people worldwide have any idea of what you're even talking about.
      • ben_w 21 hours ago
        Sure, or at least close enough on the exact number for the point to remain valid. But that doesn't preclude ChatGPT doing it anyway — my CSS/JavaScript knowledge was last up to date some time before jQuery was released, and ChatGPT is helping me make web apps.
        • tux2bsd 21 hours ago
          > Sure, or at least close enough on the exact number for the point to remain valid.

          I hope no one has to work with you, you're insufferable.

      • hiddencost 1 day ago
        I dunno, I think literally millions of people have taken Andrew Ng's intro to ML.

        Something like 11k papers were submitted to ICLR this year.

      • throwaway314155 1 day ago
        Not sure if those numbers are right but if so, you just cured my imposter syndrome (for today at least).
        • jen729w 1 day ago
          'Few tens of thousands' is for sure low. But if we talk in percentage of adult humans ... let's pull 1,000,000 out of thin air as the number who understood what that meant, that's 0.02% of adult humans.

          An anecdote: recently, we mentioned ChatGPT to my partner's mother. She had never heard of it. Zero recognition.

          Revel in your expertise, friend!

      • obviyus 1 day ago
        It’s the classic HN Dropbox comment, even 17 years on: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224
  • fastfuture 21 hours ago
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